Trayvon Martin - Irvine, KY
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“I been hangin' on every word.”

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#344 Dec 5, 2012
wow wrote:
you an KB you are both trolls, you care nothing about the subject at hand but more of the reactions you can get out of people.
Honestly I think my post was both informative, accurate and a fairly reasonable presentation of the facts as they have been presented to the public so far. I don't know of anything in my statement, which happens to share opinions with much of the population, was somehow an attempt to illicit a negative response.

“I been hangin' on every word.”

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#345 Dec 5, 2012
wow wrote:
if in fact Zimmerman took what he had coming to him like a man and didn't pull a gun maybe we could have the other side to the story.
Why is it that you believe a random Latino who you did not know deserves to be beaten up? Is it something against all Latinos or just one in particular?

According to the defense as well as witnesses, if George Zimmerman did not have a gun we would still only be hearing one side of the story, because George would have been killed instead of just having his head repeatedly beaten into concrete.

I've noticed the story is changing every time new information and evidence gets out--instead of it being some huge angry white guy chasing a tiny black child (as it was portrayed early on), now the story is having to change--now George Zimmerman "deserved" to be beaten up, and "had it coming to him." I wonder how many times the narrative has to change because some people simply refuse to accept that George Zimmerman might possibly be innocent.

“"high on life"”

Since: Jun 11

I have arrived.

#346 Dec 5, 2012
Hey wow wrote:
don't worry about hippie, hippie has burned up to many braincells. We all know if the POLICE tell you to back off then you back off, you don't take the Law into your own hands! Zimmerman chose not to back off, Trayvon ended up getting in a few punches before being gunned down. Let's remember the dead dude is the one that was NOT pursuing Zimmerman. It was ZIMMERMAN PURSUING MARTIN. ENOUGH SAID!
Maybe Hippie has an extra helping of braincells to burn.
wow

Irvine, KY

#347 Dec 5, 2012
Kick Brass wrote:
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Why is it that you believe a random Latino who you did not know deserves to be beaten up? Is it something against all Latinos or just one in particular?
According to the defense as well as witnesses, if George Zimmerman did not have a gun we would still only be hearing one side of the story, because George would have been killed instead of just having his head repeatedly beaten into concrete.
I've noticed the story is changing every time new information and evidence gets out--instead of it being some huge angry white guy chasing a tiny black child (as it was portrayed early on), now the story is having to change--now George Zimmerman "deserved" to be beaten up, and "had it coming to him." I wonder how many times the narrative has to change because some people simply refuse to accept that George Zimmerman might possibly be innocent.
Can any of you keep on subject and stop trying to nit pick someones post? I have never and will never pull the race card, it wouldn't matter to me if Zimmerman was neon green and was born in Canada, who he is where he is from, his religon, and his race have no bearing on the subject. With that being said neither does Martin's or his drug use, Zimmerman contacted police because it was dark and he saw a strange person in his neighborhood, the person wasn't breaking in a house, he wasn't raping a woman, he wasn't kicking someones dog, he wasn't selling drugs, he wasn't trying to start a fire, he looked as if he may be intoxicated and lost. The boy was 70 yards from his house it was dark and raining in a neighborhood Zimmerman took it upon himself to get out his vehicle, Martin was doing absolutely nothing wrong. When Zimmerman approached Martin he already had hate in his heart by saying "they always get away" he wasn't going to let this one walk away, that's obvious, when he confronted Martin things went downhill quick as they should, it was none of Zimmerman's business what he was doing he had already contacted the police, he should have never approached Martin, then when it became physical he figured out he messed up and nobody knows who's voice is on the tapes calling for help, and nobody knows if Martin was done assaulting Zimmerman and got up and then got shot, nobody. You can look at those newly released photos of Zimmerman, that's not the look of someone on the verge of death, a busted nose and a few scratches doesn't equal to a gunshot wound to the chest, sorry I'm not buying it. You all need to think for 5 minutes if your kid went and stayed the night with someone from school and snook out of the house like kids do and was sneaking back in and the neighborhood watch guy approached them and something like this happened how would you feel about it. The man didn't deserve to die, Zimmerman didn't shoot him in self defense, it states in almost every self defense case that the defendant will empty the magazine, he fired one shot, one, if he was in fear for his life he would have emptied the magazine trying to get Martin to stop, everybody knows that it's part of your ccw class. To Zimmerman, Martin was the straw that broke the camels back, he knew what he was going to do when he got out of his car that night, he was going to do whatever it took to not let another one get away, and he did just that.

“I been hangin' on every word.”

Since: Sep 10

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#348 Dec 5, 2012
wow wrote:
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if he was in fear for his life he would have emptied the magazine trying to get Martin to stop, everybody knows that it's part of your ccw class.
I have the CCW handbook on my desk right now and have never seen anything like that printed in it. Furthermore, I have never heard of someone being presumed guilty because they did not "shoot the other person enough." If he had emptied the magazine, I feel that the argument would be that he "should have just shot once if it was self defense--he didn't need to keep shooting."

From his own testimony he seemed to be surprised that the gun went off in the struggle; that's up to a jury to decide of course but we will know soon enough.
wow

Irvine, KY

#349 Dec 6, 2012
A Keltec pf9 doesn't discharge on it's own, it is a double action only pistol with around a 6 to 8lb trigger pull, and yes it is common practice to empty the magazine you would think as much as you preach "do some research" you would have took your own advice. I have never read or heard of one instance where a man had an attacker coming at him and in the heat of battle he shot him one time and then took a second to make sure he wasn't coming at him anymore, truth is if Martin was still on him when Zimmerman shot, only once, Martin would have continued to attack and Zimmerman would have been forced to shoot again. The fact stands if Zimerman had not gotten out of his vehicle, he would have never pulled his firearm from its holster. It's dark, Martin is in an unfamiliar area and he has a guy coming up to him in an aggressive manner that leads to being physical and when the man gets his ass whipped for sticking his nose where it don't belong he shoots and kills a guy, awesome, a hero, a real community savior. I can say this until I am blue in the face, Martin was doing nothing wrong, illegal, suspicious or out of place at the time the confrontation started, was he going to that night? Possibly, was he going to wake up the next day and devise a plan to end all human civilization? Maybe, he might have been going home to manufacture meth, doesn't matter, at the time the incident occurred he was doing nothing more than walking home, when Zimmerman started haggling him and it got physical Martin got the best of him, for a brief second.

Since: May 12

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#350 Dec 6, 2012
Zimmerman is suing NBC for the "creative editing" they did to the 911 call to make it look like he was racially profiling Martin. The story is all over the news sites; NBC even mentioned it briefly in their evening news.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/06/us/florida-zimm...

They would be wise to settle this one. It would be ironic if they, in effect, paid for his defense.
wow

Irvine, KY

#351 Dec 7, 2012
See that's the thing that is most wrong about the whole case, they use a mans life and livelihood as well as another mans death to their benefit and that is insane not only for them to profit but for the public to eat it up like hot cakes. I never thought Zimmerman was racist, given the evidence of how he reported to the 911 operator his description of Martin. I just think that if he had not got out of his vehicle and confronted Martin this entire case would have never existed, I agree with Hippie, if they try to fight this I feel as if it could bankrupt NBC, there isn't a lawyer in America that wouldn't want that case. I don't understand why race is such a topic for discussion anyway especially in the town where we live, people will never learn to move forward and be one with people as long as this hatred for people exists. I blame a lot of this on the media and how they seem to spin things. People are led to believe that whatever these reporters say are the truth, just like the whole Fox vs CNN thing, all I ever see out of some of the other posters is how Fox news reports nothing but lies but when CNN does the same they turn a blind eye to it.

Since: May 12

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#352 Dec 7, 2012
Our country is slipping toward a very un-civil war. Actually, we are already there verbally, politically, socially, ideologically. We are just too lazy to jump physically... for now. We are extremely polarized and there is no acceptable middle ground. You can see the manifestations of it right here on these boards. It's a rolling snowball picking up speed. It sounds so "gloom and doom"-ish, but it is undeniable.
Lib

London, KY

#354 Dec 8, 2012
wow wrote:
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Can any of you keep on subject and stop trying to nit pick someones post? I have never and will never pull the race card, it wouldn't matter to me if Zimmerman was neon green and was born in Canada, who he is where he is from, his religon, and his race have no bearing on the subject. With that being said neither does Martin's or his drug use, Zimmerman contacted police because it was dark and he saw a strange person in his neighborhood, the person wasn't breaking in a house, he wasn't raping a woman, he wasn't kicking someones dog, he wasn't selling drugs, he wasn't trying to start a fire, he looked as if he may be intoxicated and lost. The boy was 70 yards from his house it was dark and raining in a neighborhood Zimmerman took it upon himself to get out his vehicle, Martin was doing absolutely nothing wrong. When Zimmerman approached Martin he already had hate in his heart by saying "they always get away" he wasn't going to let this one walk away, that's obvious, when he confronted Martin things went downhill quick as they should, it was none of Zimmerman's business what he was doing he had already contacted the police, he should have never approached Martin, then when it became physical he figured out he messed up and nobody knows who's voice is on the tapes calling for help, and nobody knows if Martin was done assaulting Zimmerman and got up and then got shot, nobody. You can look at those newly released photos of Zimmerman, that's not the look of someone on the verge of death, a busted nose and a few scratches doesn't equal to a gunshot wound to the chest, sorry I'm not buying it. You all need to think for 5 minutes if your kid went and stayed the night with someone from school and snook out of the house like kids do and was sneaking back in and the neighborhood watch guy approached them and something like this happened how would you feel about it. The man didn't deserve to die, Zimmerman didn't shoot him in self defense, it states in almost every self defense case that the defendant will empty the magazine, he fired one shot, one, if he was in fear for his life he would have emptied the magazine trying to get Martin to stop, everybody knows that it's part of your ccw class. To Zimmerman, Martin was the straw that broke the camels back, he knew what he was going to do when he got out of his car that night, he was going to do whatever it took to not let another one get away, and he did just that.
You have just met, Mr & Mrs Troll, or better known as the 'Village Idiots of Topix'. They,(mostly her) using all their pseudo names work in concert with useless FOX facts, and wannabe Devil's Advocate. They offer no rhyme or reason & least of all LOGIC, not even common sense with their posts. They post only to start an argument, for proof of that, look through the pages of this thread. She will keep this thread alive, for the sake of argument, so you will neVer get anything through her head. They are NOT listening to you, it's rare she even reads a post. It's not worth it. You might as well, consider the source and let it go like everybody else does. It's just white noise, with persistent tantrums, you'll learn to block out..

By the way, I agree with your take on this Murder Case!

“I been hangin' on every word.”

Since: Sep 10

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#356 Dec 8, 2012
Posting so I can get my negative "Judge-its" too. Because when you are proven wrong, you have to report or downvote, right?
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#358 Dec 8, 2012
"Because of NBC's deceptive and exploitative manipulations, the public wrongly believes that Zimmerman 'use(d) a racial epithet' while describing Martin during the call to the dispatcher on that fateful night," the suit says.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/06/us/florida-zimm...

Since: May 12

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#359 Dec 8, 2012
It will be interesting to watch and see if the network settles or not. They say that they intend to launch a vigorous defense. I'm not sure what that would be if someone there has apologized already.

“To Eff The Ineffable”

Since: Nov 12

Wailuku

#360 Dec 9, 2012
wow wrote:
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Can any of you keep on subject and stop trying to nit pick someones post? I have never and will never pull the race card, it wouldn't matter to me if Zimmerman was neon green and was born in Canada, who he is where he is from, his religon, and his race have no bearing on the subject. With that being said neither does Martin's or his drug use, Zimmerman contacted police because it was dark and he saw a strange person in his neighborhood, the person wasn't breaking in a house, he wasn't raping a woman, he wasn't kicking someones dog, he wasn't selling drugs, he wasn't trying to start a fire, he looked as if he may be intoxicated and lost. The boy was 70 yards from his house it was dark and raining in a neighborhood Zimmerman took it upon himself to get out his vehicle, Martin was doing absolutely nothing wrong. When Zimmerman approached Martin he already had hate in his heart by saying "they always get away" he wasn't going to let this one walk away, that's obvious, when he confronted Martin things went downhill quick as they should, it was none of Zimmerman's business what he was doing he had already contacted the police, he should have never approached Martin, then when it became physical he figured out he messed up and nobody knows who's voice is on the tapes calling for help, and nobody knows if Martin was done assaulting Zimmerman and got up and then got shot, nobody. You can look at those newly released photos of Zimmerman, that's not the look of someone on the verge of death, a busted nose and a few scratches doesn't equal to a gunshot wound to the chest, sorry I'm not buying it. You all need to think for 5 minutes if your kid went and stayed the night with someone from school and snook out of the house like kids do and was sneaking back in and the neighborhood watch guy approached them and something like this happened how would you feel about it. The man didn't deserve to die, Zimmerman didn't shoot him in self defense, it states in almost every self defense case that the defendant will empty the magazine, he fired one shot, one, if he was in fear for his life he would have emptied the magazine trying to get Martin to stop, everybody knows that it's part of your ccw class. To Zimmerman, Martin was the straw that broke the camels back, he knew what he was going to do when he got out of his car that night, he was going to do whatever it took to not let another one get away, and he did just that.
I agree.
I could see how a kid might think that an adult approaching him at night, with no one around, was a pervert or other kind of criminal. Wouldn't he have a legal right to "stand his ground".
If some creep aggressively approached me like that I'd do my best to kick his ass.
"Stand your ground" shouldn't apply to aggressors.
Lib

London, KY

#361 Dec 10, 2012
flag waving hippie wrote:
It will be interesting to watch and see if the network settles or not. They say that they intend to launch a vigorous defense. I'm not sure what that would be if someone there has apologized already.
What on earth does this have to do with zimmerman's Murder Trial? GEEze...FocUs! Who cares if the murderer is suing some television station for smearing his good name? Won't matter anyway, when they send him to the pen, he looses the privilege to sell, or tell his story.'Whatever' this station has said or done, will 'not' be introduced in the trial! However the fact that Zimmerman raised $100,000 on the Internet targeted for his defense, & then lying to the judge about it, probably will. After all, his wife has not yet gone to court for her part in the perjury! I'm surprised the judge didn't try to prosecute his parents, for their part in it.

Zimmerman's little 'Napoleon Complex' caught up with him.

Since: May 12

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#362 Dec 10, 2012
Like I've said before, YOU will NEVER dictate what I do or do not discuss in my posts (only Topix has that power). Lord knows how hard you've tried. Bottom line... "you aint the boss of me"... and you never shall be.

My post was very much related to the subject at hand. Who cares if the NBC suit comes up at the shooting trial or not? As long as it eventually gets its day in court. The loose-wheel media needs to learn to report the facts instead of trying to "create" heroes and villians.

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