Connecticut school shooting!

Connecticut school shooting!

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IndividualSovere ignty

Mount Vernon, KY

#1 Dec 14, 2012
Its a complete national tragedy that took place in Connecticut the senseless slaughter of over 20 people including Kids at an elementary school... My heart goes out to those families and fellow classmates...

How long are we as individual sovereign citizens of this country going to continue to believe that gun regulations and strict laws on guns are going to keep us safe?

How long are we going to continue sending our young to school knowing that they are unprotected from hanious people such as the school shooter in connecticut?

How long are we going to allow the nanny state to continue to ban adults from exercising their second amendment rights to protect themselves and our young?

Do we need to have a similar tragedy at West Irvine Elementary, at Estill Springs, at South Irvine?? Do we need that for people to stop trusting nanny state laws?
FYI

Irvine, KY

#2 Dec 14, 2012
sites like these invite violence on them too!
get the last word

United States

#4 Dec 14, 2012
The school in question required buzz-in and it did not help. The shooter was known and was buzzed right in.
individualsovere ignty

Irvine, KY

#5 Dec 14, 2012
Really me wrote:
I think we need stricter gun laws,and stop gun shows! Plus all schools should be locked down at all times and no one should ever be allowed in a school without being buzzed in and we need metal detectors at all schools!That is what we need!
Do criminals obey laws? Ofcourse not.... so why insist on policies that hinder people who actually care about the law..who know right from wrong?
confused

Winchester, KY

#8 Dec 14, 2012
They were registered to his mother.
confused

Winchester, KY

#11 Dec 14, 2012
Really me wrote:
And if he knew he had mental issues and on the news his family said he always had then he should not have had access to them ,his mother should have made sure he could not get them!
yes that's true, but i'm sure she didn't think he would kill any one.
IndividualSovere ignty

Mount Vernon, KY

#13 Dec 14, 2012
I mean we can argue all day about whether or not this guy should have had access to the gun used... But I think the deeper question is how long are we going to continue allowing gun free zones to exist where adults and children alike are sitting ducks?
confused

Winchester, KY

#14 Dec 14, 2012
I think that every school should have metal detecters and an armed guard and also camereas
History

East Bernstadt, KY

#16 Dec 15, 2012
Really me wrote:
I think we need stricter gun laws,and stop gun shows! Plus all schools should be locked down at all times and no one should ever be allowed in a school without being buzzed in and we need metal detectors at all schools!That is what we need!
So you take Government security over freedom? If so, then you deserve no freedom and must hand over weapons now to Government and I promise you Government will keep you and everyone else safe you big dumb dumb...No, wait thats how the Governments throughout history take total control of its Citizens is to take away Our last defense being Guns eventaully leading to mass deaths (executions) by Governments oops! I meant car wrecks
History

East Bernstadt, KY

#17 Dec 15, 2012
I just read today over in China a man with a knife killed a whole class room full of kids maybe we ban knives too..The funny thing is the guy with the knife killed more kids than the guy with the gun today..
ughhhhhh

Irvine, KY

#18 Dec 15, 2012
Really me wrote:
And if he knew he had mental issues and on the news his family said he always had then he should not have had access to them ,his mother should have made sure he could not get them!
Mothers can know they have mental issues and can do nothing about it at age 24. Don't go blaming it on the mother! ugh she died, I am sure she was trying to save the children!
disgusted

Macon, GA

#19 Dec 15, 2012
None of you were there all you have to go on is what the news tells you (the news said he shot his way in)so shut the hell up. People are mourning their babies. Do any of you know how that feels. Obviously not.
bear facts

United States

#21 Dec 15, 2012
The school had a brand new buzz-in locking system in place. The law enforcement team said so this morning. He got in anyway. What will be proposed next? A prison-like fence around each school with a single point of entry and a guard at the gate?
confused

Winchester, KY

#22 Dec 15, 2012
yes there should be 2 sets of locked doors, you get bussed in and go through a metal detecter where there's a armed gaurd who has to let you through the 2nd doors to go in the school
confused

Winchester, KY

#24 Dec 15, 2012
last week when I went to county clerk's office to get my license renewed I had to empty my pocket on table in front of guard and go through metal detecter but our kids have no guards or anything to protect them or a metal detecter
wondering

London, KY

#25 Dec 15, 2012
confused wrote:
last week when I went to county clerk's office to get my license renewed I had to empty my pocket on table in front of guard and go through metal detecter but our kids have no guards or anything to protect them or a metal detecter
Which county u live in? It ain't Estill.
confused

Winchester, KY

#26 Dec 15, 2012
no clark

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#28 Dec 15, 2012
confused wrote:
last week when I went to county clerk's office to get my license renewed I had to empty my pocket on table in front of guard and go through metal detecter but our kids have no guards or anything to protect them or a metal detecter
Is the courthouse housed in the same area or any judge's chambers? Normally Kentucky gun laws will allow you to carry in some county clerk's offices, although not in judge's chambers, courtrooms, etc. where they are specifically banned by law.

I went to an office recently that said "All concealed deadly weapons are prohibited in city buidlings." Signs like these run contrary to Kentucky state law. Since Kentucky state law has preemption, it prevents any city from banning or restricting gun rights that have been already given to its citizens through state law.

Of course I'm not saying to go in there packing; but it may be worth asking your local sheriff and/or a lawyer to get a better idea of what your rights are regarding open or concealed carry in that particular building.

Regarding the security system, it's nice to have--but unfortunately nothing is going to prevent 100% of school shootings. Even Israel, where parents/guards patrol the playgrounds with machine guns, is not 100% safe. The sensationalizing of these events by the media (and the fact that a parent of a child killed in a shooting is by law considered a public figure and can be videotaped and publicized without their consent) cause extra attention to happen.

I honestly believe that if we never reported on these, or if we had a day of coverage without ever mentioning the shooters and then stopped covering it, the crazies might find something else to do and never imagine shooting up a school.

I am interested in the law that Michigan's legislature passed Thursday allowing qualified, specially trained individuals to carry concealed on school property as a deterrent. I wonder what the outcome would be if a concealed carry holder and a shooter were in the same school and if he would have the skill and courage to pull off stopping the threat.
IndividualSovere ignty

Somerset, KY

#29 Dec 15, 2012
Honestly I feel the cheapest and psychologically effective way to deter events like these from even happening is to remove all Signs from schools and school property that declares the area to be a gun free zone.. Then Replace the laws and the signs that indicate that there are armed personel on the premesis... That alone would make even the most driven people think twice about attacking a school zone. Can you arm every teacher? NO because there are those who simply will refuse to touch a gun and refuse to put themselves willingly in harms way to protect a student.. But Continuing to allow laws and signs to exist that basically put bullseyes on the map for criminals is just insane!
jug head

Harrodsburg, KY

#30 Dec 16, 2012
confused wrote:
I think that every school should have metal detecters and an armed guard and also camereas
so what you are saying is that we the america ppl needs to start living the way the foreigner living shoot and killing each other ,,,,, remember what the guy said about 9/11 the day after it happen YOU PPL IN AMERICA BETTER GET READY BECAUSE YOU WILL SEE THIS HAPPEN IN THE USA AND NOT ONE DAMN PERSON OR GUN CONTROL WILL STOP IT ,,,,,,,, IT COME FROM THE PPL WHO HAS TURN THERE BACK ON OUR COUNTRY FOR THE FOREIGNER THAT THEY ARE BRING IN HERE AND NOT TAKING CARE OF NUMBER ONE O U R C O U N T R Y THE AMERICA ,,,, PPL HAS ALWAYS IS THAT THE AMERICA PPL WILL DO THERE SELF IN AND IT JUST BEGINNING AND THERE ARE MORE TO COME ,,

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