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Web

Georgetown, KY

#1 Jan 14, 2013
Copied from the Citizens for Estill County Progress page, at www.firethebootleggers.com

TOMORROW is the election! Tomorrow marks the first time in fifty years that the people of Estill County have truly had a say on whether or not to be economically hindered by prohibition. Within the last five decades we have watched our citizens move away, our businesses close their doors, and the county's tax revenue dwindle. Tomorrow we have the chance to change all of that.

Won't you come out tomorrow and vote WET with us? Your friends, your neighbors, and your coworkers are taking a stand this election cycle. A stand against the bootleggers, who have held our children hostage for too long. A stand against outside counties, who have happily taken our money for decades. A stand against unemployment, as stores close their doors due to lack of business in this town.

I urge each and every Estill Countian to envision a wet Estill County. Imagine an Applebee's right up the road that you can take your friends who visit from out of town. Imagine the dark, abandoned stores replaced with new, flourishing businesses. Imagine the tens of thousands of dollars that are now staying in the county, instead of supporting every other county.

Won't you stand with us tomorrow? Won't you take a stand and vote wet--and secure a better future for yourself and your community?
wonder

Lexington, KY

#2 Jan 14, 2013
is this county wide or just inside city limits?
Web

Georgetown, KY

#3 Jan 14, 2013
It is county-wide. Please come out and show your support. This is our best opportunity to really make a difference for the better. I hate seeing so many businesses leave and our county getting smaller and smaller...let's finally fix it.
What

Bearden, AR

#4 Jan 14, 2013
Web wrote:
It is county-wide. Please come out and show your support. This is our best opportunity to really make a difference for the better. I hate seeing so many businesses leave and our county getting smaller and smaller...let's finally fix it.
How do you vote on this exactly? Do you have to be registered? This would be my first voting experience if I can vote on it, sorry for the dumb questions!

Since: Jan 13

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#5 Jan 15, 2013
WHY is this not on any of the Local TV Outlets as stories on their web site? Did no one from any organization contact the media about this historic vote? Ive done my part and posted a video to both CNNIreport and Youtube.
Why

Irvine, KY

#6 Jan 15, 2013
Why is this being voted on at a school?

Since: Jan 13

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#7 Jan 15, 2013
Voting times are 6-6 not 7-7
toomanypills

Lexington, KY

#8 Jan 15, 2013
The Virg wrote:
WHY is this not on any of the Local TV Outlets as stories on their web site? Did no one from any organization contact the media about this historic vote? Ive done my part and posted a video to both CNNIreport and Youtube.
I agree....I saw it listed in the local papers and that is about it....should have been somewhere posted as to timing of polls and locations seeing that this was not a normal election.
Web

Georgetown, KY

#9 Jan 15, 2013
I've messaged all of my facebook friends, called people, emailed, etc. I can reach a few hundred myself but I've seen quite a few who had no idea the vote was going today. Even with the website and huge social media work that has been done, many people still had no idea.
Web

Georgetown, KY

#10 Jan 15, 2013
toomanypills wrote:
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I agree....I saw it listed in the local papers and that is about it....should have been somewhere posted as to timing of polls and locations seeing that this was not a normal election.
It was scheduled at a time when the weather is normally horrible, and very little notice was publicly made about it...both of these things normally would point to lower turnout, meaning a higher ratio of the churchgoers who normally would vote dry. However the enormous social media work, calls, emails and messages should be enough to really bring people out.

Since: May 12

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#11 Jan 15, 2013
It at least appears that they are doing the absolute minimum required. I agree that it seems like the timing was chosen because we normally have nasty weather right after the new year begins.

I went by my voting location this morning. Not much activity and one tiny sign that I could see that said "vote here".

Couldn't they have held it during spring break? Better weather, more daylight hours, empty schools. Anyone with vacation trip plans could have voted early or via absentee.

It sure seems everything was set up as inconvenient as possible. Either that or it just wasn't thought out carefully. Either way looks bad.
Web

Georgetown, KY

#12 Jan 15, 2013
Looking at the Facebook pages:

"Let's Keep Estill County Dry" - 31 members
"Make Estill County Wet" - 860 members
And a few hundred more Wet supporters between Legalize Alcohol Sales in Estill County, Citizens for Estill County Progress, and the Wet/Dry Vote event group.

So I think that we're winning the social networking war...if that translates into votes then it'll be a blowout.
Trusty

Irvine, KY

#13 Jan 15, 2013
The timing was dictated by the date of the filing of the petition . The election by law had to be done in a certain amount of time. However, because of the presidential race in November the machines are in a quarantine for a period f time in case there are any questions about the validity of the presidential election. And then and only then could this election be held and still fall into the legal parameters. You can not blame the date on any one person.
Trusty

Irvine, KY

#14 Jan 15, 2013
Also, I saw some signs today that said "vote wet" today. If any money was spent supporting any candidate or position such as this, you must by law register yourself with the Ky Registry of Election Finance or face possible fines and jail time. Not that I personally care but if you have spent money doing these things, it's info you may want to know! I searched no one is registered for today's election.
SHAME UPON YOURSELF

United States

#15 Jan 15, 2013
SHAME ON YOU FOR THAT THINLY-VEILED THREAT. I believe there are also laws against attempting to influence the voting process with threats and intimidation. Shame, shame, shame. You should identify yourself so we can be sure to not vote for your kind next election. Whats the matter? Sounds like somebody might be worried about todays results?
haha haha

United States

#16 Jan 15, 2013
Better run out and round up whoever put up all those "alcohol destroys families" signs then. Since no one is registered I guess those must be "free" signs, huh?
Web

Georgetown, KY

#17 Jan 15, 2013
Trusty wrote:
Also, I saw some signs today that said "vote wet" today. If any money was spent supporting any candidate or position such as this, you must by law register yourself with the Ky Registry of Election Finance or face possible fines and jail time. Not that I personally care but if you have spent money doing these things, it's info you may want to know! I searched no one is registered for today's election.
Nope.

Federal restrictions: "A nonconnected Political Action Committee does not have to register until it has distributed $1,000 in a calendar year towards federal elections."

State restrictions: "Any person making an independent expenditure, shall report these
expenditures when the expenditures by that person exceed five hundred dollars
($500) in the aggregate in any one (1) election"

Unlike the opposition, the Make Estill County Wet group was quite short of any funding. The person who bought the signs did so out of his own pocket. Don't talk about things you don't understand.

As far as the Dry voters, I have no idea if they have registered, but I have seen a lot of signs (much more than the handful one of our members bought out of his own pocket) and it is quite possible they hit that $500 mark. But at this point I am not concerned with that--our argument is sound and we do not need to use legal loopholes to try to force a victory.
toomanpills

Lexington, KY

#18 Jan 15, 2013
If the vote passes, and I hope that it does, I can see supporters of the dry vote trying to block the vote anyway they can. Just as the poster mentioned the yard signs. This is why this vote is important! If people are not willing to change on their own then we need to vote in change!
Trusty

Irvine, KY

#19 Jan 15, 2013
Good I stand corrected. No problem I said it didn't matter to me. Wasn't a thinly veiled threat...as someone suggested...and if you can't speak of something, even if you are wrong, what's the point in this forum? If wet voters lose...it will definitely be for their attitude! As for the "dry" signs, it doesn't say vote for anything, at least the ones I know of, so they wouldn't have to register..I think.
Web

Georgetown, KY

#20 Jan 15, 2013
http://kref.ky.gov/Welcome1KorLessh.htm

Welcome packet for candidates/groups intending to spend less than $1000 in Kentucky - Matching the state requirement, no filing reports are required. I doubt the opposition has spent more than $1000 either so I don't think they need to worry much. As for our side I don't think we even spent money, although the signs were printed up by a guy not in the facebook group who came up with the idea, designed them, etc.

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