Ask an atheist/anti-theist anything.

Ask an atheist/anti-theist anything.

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Anti-theist

Braniewo, Poland

#1 Jan 27, 2013
The whole "is religion a good thing?" thread has gone completely off the rails, so I decided to start another thread. I'm not looking to get into a religious argument, but rather to defend my beliefs. So, if you would like to know more about atheism or if you have any questions, feel free to inquire.
My 2 cents

Duluth, GA

#2 Jan 28, 2013
How does it feel not having a soul within you?
its up to you

Bimble, KY

#3 Jan 28, 2013
An`ti`theŽist
n. 1. A disbeliever in the existence of God.

So, you want to make the distinction? For someone in the Christian belief, the end results are the same.
There are no other 'GodS', only one. We do not entertain other theories, otherwise we would not be followers of Christ..'Christians'.

Since: May 12

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#4 Jan 28, 2013
Why are you so obsessed with what other people believe or don't believe? Are you jealous? Nosey? or just cranky and confused because you just don't "get" it?
Anti-theist

Bulgaria

#5 Jan 28, 2013
My 2 cents wrote:
How does it feel not having a soul within you?
No human being possesses a "soul". If this soul exists why has it never shown up on an MRI or an x-ray? What you refer to as a soul is all in your head, literally. As humans we have the ability to empathize, love, and show emotions but this is not because of a soul, it is a result of how or brain has evolved and its chemistry. So, in conclusion, I feel no differently than you because we are anatomically the same. If you can prove otherwise, I would love to see the evidence supporting your claim.
alrightythen

Lexington, KY

#6 Jan 28, 2013
if you don't believe in god, who do you pray to
that you're right?
Anti-theist

Bulgaria

#7 Jan 28, 2013
flag waving hippie wrote:
Why are you so obsessed with what other people believe or don't believe? Are you jealous? Nosey? or just cranky and confused because you just don't "get" it?
I wouldn't say that I am obsessed, jealous, nosey, cranky, or confused. However, I am outraged at the slaughter, murder, hate, and oppression I see everyday at the hands of the faithful. The idea that actions are done "in the name of religion" is nonsense. These things are done in direct accordance with religious teachings.

The only thing I don't understand is how anyone in America could actually believe that their religious freedoms are being infringed on or that they are being persecuted. The first amendment has guaranteed that this cannot and will not happen. To me, this comes across as not only a gross ignorance of history but also as an unwillingness to defend one's beliefs. Like it or not, the same 1st amendment that guarantees complete religious freedom also protects my right to openly criticize it.
betcha

Lexington, KY

#8 Jan 28, 2013
don't worry if you don't believe in god now,you
will have plenty of time to change your mind in
hell.
Anti-theist

Dokuchayevsk, Ukraine

#9 Jan 28, 2013
alrightythen wrote:
if you don't believe in god, who do you pray to
that you're right?
I think you missed the idea of what it means to be an atheist all together. I don't pray and until someone can show some evidence that there is a god, I am correct. When and if said evidence is ever produced, I will have the intellectual honesty to reconsider my beliefs. Until then, the burden of proof lies on the faithful, not the atheist. As it stands now, there is a mountain of evidence(biological, geological, genetic, archaeological,etc..) that casts more than a reasonable doubt on the claims made by the bible, the koran, or in any religious text.

Occam's razor states that amongst competing hypothesis, all being considered equally, the conclusion that makes the fewest assumptions is correct. This can easily be applied to religion. Using the same logic, is it more likely that a god created man or that many men over many years have created many gods? After reading history, the answer seems brutally obvious to me.
Anti-theist

Dokuchayevsk, Ukraine

#10 Jan 28, 2013
betcha wrote:
don't worry if you don't believe in god now,you
will have plenty of time to change your mind in
hell.
If you have some evidence to support the claim that there is a hell or heaven for that matter, I would encourage you to produce it. Until then, there is only life and death. There is no evidence of an afterlife.
betcha

Lexington, KY

#11 Jan 28, 2013
my evidence is the BIBLE.
i cannot convince you there is a god if you don't
believe but you will not convince me there isn't
a god. i am not a religous person but i still believe in god.life and everything else in the universe is so complex that even scientist are now
saying no way it came about without some divine
intervention.

Since: May 12

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#12 Jan 28, 2013
Why does the Atheist movement constantly bring on lawsuits that infringe on the rights of believers to worship as they believe they should? If they don't care... why do they sue? Is it to harass? to bully? to draw attention to the Atheist cause?

Since: May 12

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#13 Jan 28, 2013
Are Atheists really so sensitive that someone else's praying disturbs them do greatly that they must sue to silence it? Is it the noise? If so, why not sue all airlines, sports arenas, construction companies, mommies with crying babies, gas-passers?

Since: May 12

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#14 Jan 28, 2013
*so greatly
Anti-theist

Saratov, Russia

#15 Jan 28, 2013
betcha wrote:
my evidence is the BIBLE.
i cannot convince you there is a god if you don't
believe but you will not convince me there isn't
a god. i am not a religous person but i still believe in god.life and everything else in the universe is so complex that even scientist are now
saying no way it came about without some divine
intervention.
You can't be a non-religious person and believe in the bible. Are you a christian or a deist? This makes a huge difference because christianity makes certain claims that one must subscribe to whereas deism, other than faith in a prime mover, does not.
The bible is a book written by many authors over many years. Most of these authors' existences cannot even be confirmed with any degree of certainty. Since the stories have been translated into and out of several languages, the meaning of a few words has changed. Therefore the story has changed and is open to doubt. This is excluding the possibility that the story was fabricated to begin with.
I hate to break it to you but no scientist has ever mentioned divine intervention in any theory of the universe. Actually, the vast majority of best scientists are agnostics or atheists. Science and religion are two seperate and non-overlapping fields. If there was proof of divine intervention, it would be a part of science.
Anti-theist

Saratov, Russia

#16 Jan 28, 2013
flag waving hippie wrote:
Why does the Atheist movement constantly bring on lawsuits that infringe on the rights of believers to worship as they believe they should? If they don't care... why do they sue? Is it to harass? to bully? to draw attention to the Atheist cause?
No person's rights have ever been infringed on. When it comes to religious freedom, America is the freest place on earth. The only issues that I'm aware of are prayer in schools and the posting of the ten commandments. The problem with these issues is that a single religion(christianity) is being given preference over the others and is being promoted by a government institution. According to the first amendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Since America is a secular government, when it comes to questions of faith the government's answer is not "no religion", but rather "no comment". The government should not be involved in matters of faith other than guaranteeing the free exercise thereof.

“Relax. Its just a ride.”

Since: Aug 09

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#17 Jan 28, 2013
And to think that I actually believed that I had gotten away from r/atheism.
Anti-theist

Belgrade, Serbia

#18 Jan 28, 2013
Cornliquor Federation wrote:
And to think that I actually believed that I had gotten away from r/atheism.
Good luck. You'll never escape it. You just have to pick which side of the argument you're on and be willing to defend your position. Have anything to contribute?

Since: May 12

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#19 Jan 29, 2013
You're only aware of prayer in schools and commandments in public places? Then you are nowhere near aware enough to be representing Atheists.

How about "in God we trust" on currency? Memorial crosses in military cemetaries? Christmas and Hannukah displays? Religious services in the White House? Religious events in national parks? Crosses along highways? Plus an endless slew of other lawsuits aimed at silencing anyone that believes differently than you do.

Not to mention the hateful and vitriolic verbal campaigns you launch against those who dare to believe differently than you do. The spiteful, mean-spirited name-calling of believers and their God(s) that you indulge in. The prejudice and bigotry and intolerance virtually oozes from the posts of you and your cohorts.

That's the difference between me and you. I don't meddle in your beliefs. I don't skulk around the Internet trying to squelch your comments. I don't try to eradicate your beliefs. I am not a bigot.

BIGOT: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.
its up to you

Bimble, KY

#20 Jan 29, 2013
Anti-theist wrote:
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No human being possesses a "soul". If this soul exists why has it never shown up on an MRI or an x-ray? What you refer to as a soul is all in your head, literally. As humans we have the ability to empathize, love, and show emotions but this is not because of a soul, it is a result of how or brain has evolved and its chemistry. So, in conclusion, I feel no differently than you because we are anatomically the same. If you can prove otherwise, I would love to see the evidence supporting your claim.
Again,
I want to take a stab at this. We all have a conscience that tells us right from wrong. Christians believe our consciences are that of the Holy Spirit.'All' have the same same set of basic rules to live and govern by. Where does that come from? Dust to Dust, ashes to ashes, how did humans end up with a conscience, when all other life forms did not. Animals can be shamed, but they live in the moment, once rewarded it's over. BUT...not with humans. Christians not accepting at least some evolution is a misconception. We cannot not deny the life of dinosaurs, or even that our bodies have evolved to suit our climate & survival. The 'Theory of Evolution', teaches life form came from the sea..? Does all sea life have consciences? No. Did we evolve from apes, if so why aren't the apes still evolving into humans? I can't buy that part.

Humans have a conscience, or a 'soul', that literally yearns for a Higher Being. I can tell you from experience that worshipping God is soothing, peaceful, and 'literally' satisfies the soul like nothing else can or ever will. The reason you're on this quest trying to convince others "that there is no God", proves 'your soul' is desperately searching for peace... Otherwise, why would you care, are you this devoted to convincing everyone of anything else?

Religion is not for 'frightened' or weak people, quite the opposite... those who believe 'all is right with their soul' fear nothing, even in death. Those who don't believe are usually health nuts, trying to preserve their bodies and fearing (as an example) 2nd hand smoke while outdoors effects them greatly. They cannot add one day to their lives, the Bible says "it's appointed unto man 'once' to die, & 'then' the judgement". Atheist die so afraid that they leave this world clawing for life, begging God for 'death bed' forgiveness. Humans are the most perishable thing on earth.

This 'name calling' against our (mine and your) God is dangerous. Questions can be asked in different ways, ways that will not separate you from God. People 'sell' their souls for many things, like knowingly causing people to suffer so they can prosper, but your quest makes no sense. There's no pay off that I can see, nothing in it for you... the devil uses all sources to claim souls, I don't know maybe we're talking to one of his imps. You cannot go to Heaven if you deny God, God knows the worst battles we fight is to keep our Faith, even in the face of unbelievers like yourself.

Don't loose your soul over this, everybody won't receive 'death bed' forgiveness.

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