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Find out who is slandering you on here....

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FYI

Irvine, KY

#1 Sep 21, 2010
Did you know now you can easily find out who is slandering your name on here...then you can file for criminal and civil charges and sue their butts off for slander.
1. Talk to KSP Internet Crimes in Frankfort.
2. Talk to the Attorney's General's office.
3. Have your atty to subpoena Topix records, copy and paste where you was slandered.
After talking to these people they will guide you further.
not so fast

Norman, AR

#2 Sep 21, 2010
Before you jump the gun on this one, you will have to prove that it is indeed slander and that it tarnished your reputation within the community and that it was a direct result of the comments made. And a case of slander isn't easily proven. If 12 people live within the home and share the computer then you will have to prove without a doubt exactly which person made the posting you cant just pin it on the entire household. Or what if the postings were made from a PUBLIC computer, then you could not prove who done it.

Also, the slander in question has to be proven to be a lie. In other words, if it is true then it is not slander.

FYI, slandering a "screen name" is not a legitimate case of slander. It has to be your true identity that was defamated.
Good Info

United States

#3 Sep 21, 2010
This is good information from both of you...TY for posting...I believe people should be able to go after anyone whom purposly causes them harm either bodily or through slander..also believe if you are gonna post something on here and you know it is true you should use your own identity...But that isn't gonna happen..So topix should be held accountable for making it possible
Good Info

United States

#4 Sep 21, 2010
I also wanted to say if it isn't true you shouldn't be saying it...and really your bussiness is just that your bussiness so these websites shouldn't exist
not hidden

Mount Gilead, OH

#5 Sep 22, 2010
Topix knows where each and every post come from even though some think they are hidden. You have to have a ip address, not a location but an ip, we all have one. Each post you make sends this info to topix also. So they know who you are no matter what you may think.

“Relax. Its just a ride.”

Since: Aug 09

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#6 Sep 23, 2010
KSP internet crimes?! Huh? Slander is something said...Libel is something typed. Either way, that is a civil matter, not criminal.
Anyways, presuming that you get all lawyered up and want to come forth with a civil suit, the list of requirements on your part is pretty long.

You must demonstrate that what was said was a lie. If someone says you were whoring around the mountain with married men....and you were in fact whoring around the mountain with married men, you dont have a case just because your feelings are hurt.

What was aid must be a statement of fact, not just an opinion. If I say that John Doe is dumb as a brick, thats just an opinion.

You have to demonstrate that what was said is a deliberate falsehood intended to cause harm.

You have to demonstrate that said falsehood did in fact cause harm (lost job, divorce etc..)

You have to find a judge that actually WANTS to hear your case. After all, what judge really wants his court flooded with "So-and-so called me a name!"

I think there may be a few other requirements, but its just too long to list. This is why Libel/Slander are so commonly mentioned, but one of the rarest civil suits ever brought to court.
Kick Brass

Campbellsville, KY

#7 Sep 23, 2010
Cornliquor Federation wrote:
KSP internet crimes?! Huh? Slander is something said...Libel is something typed. Either way, that is a civil matter, not criminal.
Anyways, presuming that you get all lawyered up and want to come forth with a civil suit, the list of requirements on your part is pretty long.
You must demonstrate that what was said was a lie. If someone says you were whoring around the mountain with married men....and you were in fact whoring around the mountain with married men, you dont have a case just because your feelings are hurt.
What was aid must be a statement of fact, not just an opinion. If I say that John Doe is dumb as a brick, thats just an opinion.
You have to demonstrate that what was said is a deliberate falsehood intended to cause harm.
You have to demonstrate that said falsehood did in fact cause harm (lost job, divorce etc..)
You have to find a judge that actually WANTS to hear your case. After all, what judge really wants his court flooded with "So-and-so called me a name!"
I think there may be a few other requirements, but its just too long to list. This is why Libel/Slander are so commonly mentioned, but one of the rarest civil suits ever brought to court.
As someone who is NOT a lawyer and will not profess to be one or give any kind of legal advice (CYA policy ftw): It should not be required to present full proof that the person in question committed an act of libel. It is quite possible to obtain a subpoena from a judge if there is probable cause that libel has taken place which will be enough to obtain a warrant.

A few things that must be considered:

1: You would end up with nothing but an IP address.
2: You would have to find and subpoena the internet service provider behind that address to get the name and address of the perpetrator meaning yet another court order.

There may be some way to 'piggyback' the orders together but I highly doubt it. Again I'm not a lawyer but that's my two cents.
get real

Clarkson, KY

#8 Sep 23, 2010
Kick Brass wrote:
<quoted text>
As someone who is NOT a lawyer and will not profess to be one or give any kind of legal advice (CYA policy ftw): It should not be required to present full proof that the person in question committed an act of libel. It is quite possible to obtain a subpoena from a judge if there is probable cause that libel has taken place which will be enough to obtain a warrant.
A few things that must be considered:
1: You would end up with nothing but an IP address.
2: You would have to find and subpoena the internet service provider behind that address to get the name and address of the perpetrator meaning yet another court order.
There may be some way to 'piggyback' the orders together but I highly doubt it. Again I'm not a lawyer but that's my two cents.
the problem is there some idiots on here that think that everyone with the same ip address is the same person, when actually they have the same internet provider and they want to claim that this person is stalking them, in fact it could be 20 people posting to them not just one, so you'd have a bunch of stupid, petty law suits because of people's ignorance
you said it

Norman, AR

#9 Sep 23, 2010
Cornliquor Federation wrote:
KSP internet crimes?! Huh? Slander is something said...Libel is something typed. Either way, that is a civil matter, not criminal.
Anyways, presuming that you get all lawyered up and want to come forth with a civil suit, the list of requirements on your part is pretty long.
You must demonstrate that what was said was a lie. If someone says you were whoring around the mountain with married men....and you were in fact whoring around the mountain with married men, you dont have a case just because your feelings are hurt.
What was aid must be a statement of fact, not just an opinion. If I say that John Doe is dumb as a brick, thats just an opinion.
You have to demonstrate that what was said is a deliberate falsehood intended to cause harm.
You have to demonstrate that said falsehood did in fact cause harm (lost job, divorce etc..)
You have to find a judge that actually WANTS to hear your case. After all, what judge really wants his court flooded with "So-and-so called me a name!"
I think there may be a few other requirements, but its just too long to list. This is why Libel/Slander are so commonly mentioned, but one of the rarest civil suits ever brought to court.
Well said. I was getting ready to post the same thought in that this is not a cyber crime case. Slander isn't a criminal charge, and that probably most lawyers would laugh you out of their office for bringing this before them. It is the topix keeper's job to delete abusing posts and the lawyers and judges of this commonwealth have better things to do than sit and snicker at this sad attempt to scare people out of speaking their minds.
Kick Brass

Campbellsville, KY

#10 Sep 23, 2010
you said it wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said. I was getting ready to post the same thought in that this is not a cyber crime case. Slander isn't a criminal charge, and that probably most lawyers would laugh you out of their office for bringing this before them. It is the topix keeper's job to delete abusing posts and the lawyers and judges of this commonwealth have better things to do than sit and snicker at this sad attempt to scare people out of speaking their minds.
Quite true in most cases. But keep in mind that there was a thread on here just last night that said, "Did you hear that (Person 1) and (Person 2) raped a mentally challenged girl? Someone should go beat the hell out of them." Such statements go a bit further than "speaking ones mind" and into the realm of inciting a riot, among other things. In such situations law enforcement may be called in although regarding libelous text, chances are you're going to have to get your own lawyer and pay your way because it's going to be a civil case throughout.

Regarding IP addresses...an Internet Protocol address is the address used to identify the final public point of contact before reaching any kind of intranet or private network. In other words, your IP address may identify your computer, or it could identify your individual router that provides connectivity to your entire household (and the bum across the street stealing your internet because you keep forgetting to put a password on it!). It will not, however, give everyone in the same town the same IP address.

So no, it is not a 100% accurate identifier of who is on the other end of that screen. However, it will in virtually all cases identify (providing you can get the ISP to cooperate) the particular internet account that was using said IP address at the time in question. For example:

IP 1.2.3.4 accesses a website and makes very incriminating statements and/or threats. Law enforcement acquires a subpoena from a judge and presents it to the website in question. The website surrenders the IP address to law enforcement, who does a reverse nameserver lookup to find that it is tied to (Random ISP). Law enforcement then subpoena the ISP to obtain the name and address of the user who had been leased the IP address in question during the time of the occurrence. Police then visit the house in question to determine where the post was made, find out if it could have been made from an outside party (through an unsecured wi-fi network for example), and take whatever action they deem necessary.

No, it isn't easy or an off-the-cuff action to be taken any time someone gets angry at something said online. But given enough reason, any non-proxied connection to this website can generally be tracked.
revenge

Waynesburg, KY

#11 Sep 24, 2010
Kick Brass wrote:
<quoted text>
Quite true in most cases. But keep in mind that there was a thread on here just last night that said, "Did you hear that (Person 1) and (Person 2) raped a mentally challenged girl? Someone should go beat the hell out of them." Such statements go a bit further than "speaking ones mind" and into the realm of inciting a riot, among other things. In such situations law enforcement may be called in although regarding libelous text, chances are you're going to have to get your own lawyer and pay your way because it's going to be a civil case throughout.
Regarding IP addresses...an Internet Protocol address is the address used to identify the final public point of contact before reaching any kind of intranet or private network. In other words, your IP address may identify your computer, or it could identify your individual router that provides connectivity to your entire household (and the bum across the street stealing your internet because you keep forgetting to put a password on it!). It will not, however, give everyone in the same town the same IP address.
So no, it is not a 100% accurate identifier of who is on the other end of that screen. However, it will in virtually all cases identify (providing you can get the ISP to cooperate) the particular internet account that was using said IP address at the time in question. For example:
IP 1.2.3.4 accesses a website and makes very incriminating statements and/or threats. Law enforcement acquires a subpoena from a judge and presents it to the website in question. The website surrenders the IP address to law enforcement, who does a reverse nameserver lookup to find that it is tied to (Random ISP). Law enforcement then subpoena the ISP to obtain the name and address of the user who had been leased the IP address in question during the time of the occurrence. Police then visit the house in question to determine where the post was made, find out if it could have been made from an outside party (through an unsecured wi-fi network for example), and take whatever action they deem necessary.
No, it isn't easy or an off-the-cuff action to be taken any time someone gets angry at something said online. But given enough reason, any non-proxied connection to this website can generally be tracked.
you are right. But the sad part is that people are abusing it's real intended purpose. It is becoming a revenge tool for some.
These same people are reporting abuse on postings that aren't abuse at all, simply because they don't like what is said or think it is from someone in particular. We don't want to encourage such behavior. It needs to be used for it's intended purpose and not as revenge.
wht

Irvine, KY

#13 Nov 16, 2010
get real wrote:
<quoted text>the problem is there some idiots on here that think that everyone with the same ip address is the same person, when actually they have the same internet provider and they want to claim that this person is stalking them, in fact it could be 20 people posting to them not just one, so you'd have a bunch of stupid, petty law suits because of people's ignorance
I know. right? They see a place and think of only one person. I bet a lot of people show up as London, or Key West. I have seen many more. One is the United States. Let them entertain themselves with their ignorance. It may be the only "exciting" thing they get to do all day. Poor, pitiful trash talkers. Too bad they don't get a life or have a life!
tink

Irvine, KY

#14 Nov 16, 2010
If you know the right people, you can get things done and FIND out...YES you can...
SO becareful who you talk about..it might come back to haunt you....
tink is right

Irvine, KY

#15 Nov 16, 2010
YOU should be very careful! It WILL come back to haunt you!
Cant wait

Anderson, SC

#16 Jan 1, 2011
I will contact them thanks
got to be kiddin

Sacramento, CA

#17 Jan 1, 2011
FYI wrote:
Did you know now you can easily find out who is slandering your name on here...then you can file for criminal and civil charges and sue their butts off for slander.
1. Talk to KSP Internet Crimes in Frankfort.
2. Talk to the Attorney's General's office.
3. Have your atty to subpoena Topix records, copy and paste where you was slandered.
After talking to these people they will guide you further.
Honestly, you've got to be kidding. These people would laugh you right out of town they've got more important things to do with their time than waste it on somebody hollerin' "slander" on Topix, and criminal charges has nothing to do with anything. So thanks for the fake info.
it will help

Irvine, KY

#18 Jan 1, 2011
the more complaints the better to shut down this site for once and for all. Its just a matter of time. What will the bashers then do with their worthless time?

“I been hangin' on every word.”

Since: Sep 10

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#19 Jan 1, 2011
it will help wrote:
the more complaints the better to shut down this site for once and for all. Its just a matter of time. What will the bashers then do with their worthless time?
You tell me, what will you do?

Me? I'll go to any of the thousands of other websites where you can share your viewpoint anonymously. But let's get real; most content on this website is very legal. The only issue here is a lack of moderation of threads to remove illegal content. As for people having their own opinion; you won't be able to stop that no matter how hard you try.

Since: Apr 10

Jackson, Ky

#20 Jan 1, 2011
it will help wrote:
the more complaints the better to shut down this site for once and for all. Its just a matter of time. What will the bashers then do with their worthless time?
What exactly is the problem? I assure you that Topix won't be shut down. It is wildly popular and making big profits. Note the ad space that didn't use to be there. That means companies are paying to place their ad on this site due to the large amount of traffic. You can and should do something if you have been libeled on here. Otherwise, you are fighting a losing battle. You cannot cotrol what people say or type.

“I been hangin' on every word.”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#21 Jan 1, 2011
The Ravens Wing wrote:
<quoted text>What exactly is the problem? I assure you that Topix won't be shut down. It is wildly popular and making big profits. Note the ad space that didn't use to be there. That means companies are paying to place their ad on this site due to the large amount of traffic. You can and should do something if you have been libeled on here. Otherwise, you are fighting a losing battle. You cannot cotrol what people say or type.
Very true. Shutting down Topix because people break the law is like shutting down the US highway system because some people speed on it.

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