Donald Trump and Barack Obama

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Coffee Pot

Ashland, KY

#1 Oct 27, 2012
Donald Trump

Source: Wikipedia

Barack Obama

Speaking to an audience of more than five thousand people in Boca Raton, Florida on April 16, 2011, Trump implied that voter reaction to the 2008 financial crisis and the perception of slow progress on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan during the final months of George W. Bush's second term as President was the primary cause for the election of his successor Barack Obama, and further that Obama would probably be known as the worst president in U.S. history.

Trump brought attention to conspiracy theories questioning Obama's citizenship status in media appearances, and endured criticism from political opponents for this. In an NBC-TV interview broadcast April 7, 2011, Trump said he was not satisfied that Obama had proven his citizenship.

In an April 2011 NBC interview, Trump disclosed that he had sent researchers to Hawaii to investigate the matter of Obama's citizenship status, commenting "they cannot believe what they're finding." On Anderson Cooper 360° on CNN, April 25, 2011, Trump said he wanted Obama to end the issue by releasing his long-form Certificate of Live Birth (distinct from the short-form Certification of Live Birth – Hawaii's prima facie evidence of birth), adding, "I've been told very recently ... the birth certificate is missing."

The long-form of Obama's birth certificate was released by the White House on April 27, 2011. Obama said it should put the matter to rest; that the nation had more pressing problems to solve and could not afford to be "distracted by side shows and carnival barkers". Trump expressed pride at his role in the release of the long-form certificate in a press conference followup.(The following Sunday, May 1, NBC would interrupt The Apprentice for breaking news coverage following the revelation that US forces had killed Osama bin Laden: some conspiracy theorists suggested that a vindictive Obama knew of the mission's success well beforehand and had consciously delayed his official announcement so that it would take Trump off the air.)

In May 2011, Public Policy Polling described the events as "one of the quickest rises and falls in the history of presidential politics", reporting:

Trump really made hay out of the 'birther' issue and as the resonance of that has declined, so has his standing. In February we found that 51 percent of Republican primary voters thought Barack Obama was not born in the United States. Now with the release of his birth certificate only 34 percent of Republican partisans fall into that camp, and Trump's only in fifth place with that now smaller group of the electorate at 9 percent.

On the Today Show on October 19, 2011, Trump stated that "I could vote for anybody over President Obama. President Obama has been a total and complete disaster."

On October 24, 2012, Trump offered President Obama a check for $5 million to his charity of choice in return for the release of his college and passport applications and documentation. This came after Trump tweeted that he had a big announcement that could potentially change the course of the 2012 Presidential Election a few days before.

Source: Wikipedia
Hot Potato

Ashland, KY

#2 Oct 27, 2012
All of the Obama supporters in America should be saying that they want him to take Donald Trump's offer of $5 Million to his chosen charity. It will make Obama look very generous and transparent. And it will show all Americans that he has nothing to hide. What has he got to lose? Sounds like a great offer!!!
larry

Lodi, OH

#3 Oct 27, 2012
So Obama decided his records are more valuable to him then 5 million dollars to any charity of Obama's choice. What a humble president he is.
wtfever

Lancaster, OH

#4 Oct 27, 2012
Hot Potato wrote:
All of the Obama supporters in America should be saying that they want him to take Donald Trump's offer of $5 Million to his chosen charity. It will make Obama look very generous and transparent. And it will show all Americans that he has nothing to hide. What has he got to lose? Sounds like a great offer!!!
No, It won't. It will make Obama look like he'll bend over to the demands of any pumpkin faced assclown with a bad hairpiece. Trump should know his role and shut his cocksucker. Would you say the same if Warren Buffet offered Romney 5 million for his tax returns. You and I both know you would not.
Dodge Ram

Lodi, OH

#5 Oct 27, 2012
That's 5 million dollars Obama kept from needy people so since Obama's a multimillionaire he should donate 2 million to charity to make up for the loss.And Obama don't have any problem bowing to foreign leaders so what's the difference.
paul

Lodi, OH

#6 Oct 27, 2012
Get off Donald Trump! All he did was make an offer and Obama refused it.Its up to voters to decide why he would turn down 5,000,000 to go to charity.
Carl C

Cincinnati, OH

#7 Oct 27, 2012
wtfever wrote:
<quoted text>No, It won't. It will make Obama look like he'll bend over to the demands of any pumpkin faced assclown with a bad hairpiece. Trump should know his role and shut his cocksucker. Would you say the same if Warren Buffet offered Romney 5 million for his tax returns. You and I both know you would not.
Now little feller you shouldnt use such dirtyu talk. That makes you bout as big as a liitle squirrel
DemsRule12

Ashland, KY

#8 Oct 27, 2012
LOL...Obama and Donald Trump? That particular wad of orange hair is a Romney man. Obama gets Colin Powell and Bill Clinton. Sweet.
I H S

Lodi, OH

#9 Oct 27, 2012
We all know Clinton is a crook and powell done it under pressure since he waited just days before the election and president Obama's behind in 80% of the polls.
I Will Take Five Million

Ashland, KY

#10 Oct 27, 2012
wtfever wrote:
<quoted text>No, It won't. It will make Obama look like he'll bend over to the demands of any pumpkin faced assclown with a bad hairpiece. Trump should know his role and shut his cocksucker. Would you say the same if Warren Buffet offered Romney 5 million for his tax returns. You and I both know you would not.
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Donald Trump's education....

Trump attended The Kew-Forest School, Forest Hills, New York, as did some of his siblings. At age 13 after having some difficulties there, his parents sent him to the New York Military Academy (NYMA), hoping to direct his energy and assertiveness in a positive manner. At NYMA, in upstate New York, Trump earned academic honors, and played varsity football in 1962, varsity soccer in 1963, and varsity baseball from 1962 to 1964 (baseball captain 1964). The baseball coach, Ted Dobias, a local celebrity for his work with area youth, awarded him the Coach's Award in 1964. Promoted to Cadet Captain-S4 (Cadet Battalion Logistics Officer) in his senior year, Trump and Cadet First Sergeant Jeff Donaldson (NYMA class of 1965; West Point 1969) formed a composite company of cadets, taught them advanced close-order drill, and marched them down Fifth Avenue on Memorial Day, 1964.

Trump attended Fordham University for two years before transferring to the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. He graduated in 1968 with a Bachelor of Science in economics. In his book, Trump: The Art of the Deal, Trump discusses his undergraduate career:

After I graduated from the New York Military Academy in 1964, I flirted briefly with the idea of attending film school... but in the end I decided real estate was a much better business. I began by attending Fordham University... but after two years, I decided that as long as I had to be in college, I might as well test myself against the best. I applied to the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania and I got in... I was also very glad to get finished. I immediately moved back home and went to work full time with my father.
Made in America

Ashland, KY

#11 Oct 27, 2012
Revealed on "Piers Morgan Tonight: Donald Trump" (2011) that he personally shuns the use of alcohol, tobacco, drugs and tattoos. Is pro-military spending.

As a guest of FOX's Bill O'Reilly Trump confessed that, though once a pro-choice advocate, he is now pro-life, and is against gay marriage.

Quote:[when asked if he would run for President of the United States] People wanted me to very strongly and I decided I didn't want to do it. I sort of enjoy what I'm doing and I continue to enjoy what I'm doing. I have never had more fun. And then to cap it off with a star on the walk of fame today was just a lot of fun. And, you know, it's just -- it's just very sad to me what's happening with this country in terms of world and in terms of world perception.

Books:

(2007) Release of his book, "Think Big and Kick Ass in Business and Life" by Donald with Bill Zanker.

(1997) Release of his book, "Trump: The Art of the Comeback" by Donald with Kate Bonher.

(1990) Release of his book, "Trump: Surviving at the Top" by Donald with Charles Leerhsen.

(2004) Release of his book, "Trump: How to Get Rich" by Donald with Meredith McIver.

(2000) Release of his book, "The America We Deserve" by Donald with David Shiflett.

(2007) Release of his book, "Trump 101: The Way to Success" by Donald with Meredith McIver.

(2009) Release of his book, "Think Like a Champion: An Informal Education in Business and Life".
Mystery

Ashland, KY

#12 Oct 27, 2012
DemsRule12 wrote:
LOL...Obama and Donald Trump? That particular wad of orange hair is a Romney man. Obama gets Colin Powell and Bill Clinton. Sweet.
The big surprise was, it has had some negative impact
on Obama. What Liberals will NOT say about that night on Letterman, was Trump getting an audience approval when he said "If they are all straight and accurate, no problem, but we would still like to see them". There has been an uptick in people ASKING about these "hidden" records and better yet, WHY ? It's been a question not a single Liberal can answer, because it makes no SENSE why he would deny the VERY public who elected him, to "understand" who he "was" for all those years. Obviously, he IS hiding something he FEARS will expose him....
wtfever

Lancaster, OH

#13 Oct 27, 2012
I Will Take Five Million wrote:
<quoted text>
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Donald Trump's education....
Trump attended The Kew-Forest School, Forest Hills, New York, as did some of his siblings. At age 13 after having some difficulties there, his parents sent him to the New York Military Academy (NYMA), hoping to direct his energy and assertiveness in a positive manner. At NYMA, in upstate New York, Trump earned academic honors, and played varsity football in 1962, varsity soccer in 1963, and varsity baseball from 1962 to 1964 (baseball captain 1964). The baseball coach, Ted Dobias, a local celebrity for his work with area youth, awarded him the Coach's Award in 1964. Promoted to Cadet Captain-S4 (Cadet Battalion Logistics Officer) in his senior year, Trump and Cadet First Sergeant Jeff Donaldson (NYMA class of 1965; West Point 1969) formed a composite company of cadets, taught them advanced close-order drill, and marched them down Fifth Avenue on Memorial Day, 1964.
Trump attended Fordham University for two years before transferring to the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. He graduated in 1968 with a Bachelor of Science in economics. In his book, Trump: The Art of the Deal, Trump discusses his undergraduate career:
After I graduated from the New York Military Academy in 1964, I flirted briefly with the idea of attending film school... but in the end I decided real estate was a much better business. I began by attending Fordham University... but after two years, I decided that as long as I had to be in college, I might as well test myself against the best. I applied to the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania and I got in... I was also very glad to get finished. I immediately moved back home and went to work full time with my father.
wow, you covered his education and athletic achievements without mentioning his rour student deferments and then his medical deferment to avoid the draft. kudos for you. trump the star athelete to sick to go to vietnam. i'm sure you'll say something about how he had a high number which parrots what he himself claims and omits the fact that his high number was called in decemeber of 1969 18 months after he graduated but he got a medical deferment to avoid going. must be nice to be born rich and gutless.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebr...
Nellie

Ashland, KY

#14 Oct 27, 2012
"The administration asserts the right to fill the ranks of the regular army by compulsion.... Is this, sir, consistent with the character of a free government? Is this civil liberty? Is this the real character of our Constitution? No, sir, indeed it is not.... Where is it written in the Constitution, in what article or section is it contained, that you may take children from their parents, and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battles of any war, in which the folly or the wickedness of government may engage it? Under what concealment has this power lain hidden, which now for the first time comes forth, with a tremendous and baleful aspect, to trample down and destroy the dearest rights of personal liberty?
Daniel Webster (December 9, 1814 House of Representatives Address)

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The Draft

Conscription in the United States has been employed several times, usually during war but also during the nominal peace of the Cold War. The United States discontinued the draft in 1973, moving to an all-volunteer military force, thus there is no mandatory conscription.

However, the Selective Service System remains in place as a contingency plan; men between the ages of 18 and 25 are required to register so that a draft can be readily resumed if needed. In current conditions conscription is considered unlikely by most political and military experts.

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Government leaders felt the potential for a draft was a critical element in maintaining a constant flow of volunteers. On numerous occasions Gen. Hershey told Congress for every man drafted, three or four more were scared into volunteering.Assuming his assessment was accurate, this would mean over 11 million men volunteered for service because of the draft between January 1954 and April 1975.

The policy of using the draft as a club to force "voluntary" enlistment was unique in U.S. history. Previous drafts had not aimed at encouraging individuals to sign up in order to gain preferential placement or less dangerous postings. However, the incremental buildup of Vietnam without a clear threat to the country bolstered this. Some estimates suggest conscription encompassed almost one-third of all eligible men during the period of 1965-69. This group represented those without exemption or resources to avoid military service. During the active combat phase, the possibility of avoiding combat by selecting their service and military specialty led as many as four out of 11 million eligible men to enlist. The military relied upon this draft-induced volunteerism to make its quotas, especially the Army, which accounted for nearly 95 percent of all inductees during Vietnam. For example, defense recruiting reports show 34% of the recruits in 1964 up to 50% in 1970 indicated they joined to avoid adverse placement via the draft.These rates dwindled to 24% in 1972 and 15% in 1973 after the change to a lottery system. Accounting for other factors, it can be argued up to 60 percent of those who served throughout the Vietnam War did so directly or indirectly because of the draft.

In addition, deferments provided an incentive for men to follow pursuits considered useful to the state. This process, known as channeling, helped push men into educational, occupational, and family choices they might not otherwise have pursued. Undergraduate degrees were valued. Graduate work had varying value over time, though technical and religious training received near constant support. War industry support in the form of teaching, research, or skilled labor also received deferred or exempt status. Finally, marriage and family were exempted because of its positive societal consequences. This included using presidential orders to extend exemptions again to fathers and others. Channeling was also seen as a means of preempting the early loss of the country’s “best and brightest” who had historically joined and died early in war.

-Wikipedia
Nellie

Ashland, KY

#15 Oct 27, 2012
Consequently, there was some opposition to the draft even before the major U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War began. The large cohort of Baby Boomers who became eligible for military service during the Vietnam War also meant a steep increase in the number of exemptions and deferments, especially for college and graduate students. Furthermore, college graduates who volunteered for military service (primarily as commissioned officers) and even (to a lesser degree) those who were drafted had a much better chance of securing a preferential posting compared to less-educated draftees.

As U.S. troop strength in Vietnam increased, more young men were drafted for service there, and many of those still at home sought means of avoiding the draft. Since only 15,000 National Guard and Reserve soldiers were sent to Vietnam, enlistment in the Guard or the Reserves became a popular means of avoiding serving in a war zone. For those who could meet the more stringent enlistment standards, service in the Air Force, Navy or Coast Guard was a means of reducing the chances of being exposed to high-intensity ground combat. Vocations to the ministry and the rabbinate soared, because divinity students were exempt from the draft. Doctors and draft board members found themselves being pressured by relatives or family friends to exempt potential draftees.

-Wikipedia
wtfever

Lancaster, OH

#16 Oct 27, 2012
Nellie, you could have just linked the page. Donald Trump still remains a draft dodging bitch.
night shift

Cleveland, OH

#17 Oct 28, 2012
Donald Trump gives to charity.
Barack Obama takes away 5 million.
The doctor is in

Cincinnati, OH

#18 Oct 28, 2012
wtfever wrote:
Nellie, you could have just linked the page. Donald Trump still remains a draft dodging bitch.
You are a very inmature or maybe insecure person. Reading your posts I feel compelled to enchourage you to seek counseling of some type. I'm sure the gov't would help pay for it. Your welfare card might work.
west ironton

Cleveland, OH

#19 Oct 28, 2012
Maybe Barack should have took the 5 million and donated it to charity since Joe Biden in 2007 made $319.000 and gave $995.00 to charity.
trojan man

Cincinnati, OH

#20 Oct 28, 2012
Or donate it to his "mens club"
Obama likes men more than women for some things.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/claim-obama-hid-ga...

http://patriotpost.us/perspective/13909

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