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#21 Jan 24, 2013
It's ok, no sweat, just hope the NRA is successful in suing New York State over this and put this anti gun liberals in the rear view mirror.

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#22 Jan 24, 2013
I can't believe that the state is gonna spend $ 35 million to enact this gun law. I don't have a problem with the mental health background checks. But when you tell me how much ammo I can have or carry, then I got an issue. The re-certify thing for pistol permits is stupid too. I have to re-certify to see if I am allowed to carry. I can see that the state thought this one through. If I'm not allowed to carry that means a mandated reporter reported to the state and my guns would be seized anyways. I see the re-certification as nothing more than a money grab.

Instead of screwing with law abiding citizens , how about get tougher on the criminals. The state should be looking at gun shops and how they secure their firearms overnight. 2 gun shops robbed and a 100 guns taken tells me that these guns were just left out. Personally I think they should be secured.
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#23 Jan 25, 2013
Here is a great reason for no exception for law enforcement ... http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/hammo...

this cop was using his position to buy these illegal weapons, and then selling them on the internet.

He is awaiting sentencing ... but I bet he doesn't get as much time as that girl who bought the weapons for the webster fire department shooter.

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#24 Jan 25, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
Here is a great reason for no exception for law enforcement ... http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/hammo...
this cop was using his position to buy these illegal weapons, and then selling them on the internet.
He is awaiting sentencing ... but I bet he doesn't get as much time as that girl who bought the weapons for the webster fire department shooter.
Look we all know you don't like law enforcement which is fine, but this has nothing to do with a possible law enforcement exemption. The officers worked outside of their scope of duty and committed a criminal act. The gun law wouldn't exempt this type of behavior.
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#25 Jan 25, 2013
It's not that I don't like law enforcement ... I am sick of the corruption and disparity of justice.

When a cop charges an average joe with a crime, the sentence is long and crushing financially ... but when a COP is charged with the same crime, they get a slap on the wrist, the union or town pays thier fine.

There is ALWAYS some exception for law enforcement. Time for them to obey the same rules we all do.

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#26 Jan 26, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
It's not that I don't like law enforcement ... I am sick of the corruption and disparity of justice.
When a cop charges an average joe with a crime, the sentence is long and crushing financially ... but when a COP is charged with the same crime, they get a slap on the wrist, the union or town pays thier fine.
There is ALWAYS some exception for law enforcement. Time for them to obey the same rules we all do.
Rahn, Pignato and Joseph didn't get a slap on the wrist. So I don't agree with your statement and no legal action is cheap when an attorney is involved. I also think your looking at things wrong. The police officer is the defendant. He has an attorney working for him and a judge who decides the outcome. So you should be pointing fingers at the judge and attornies not the officer.
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#27 Jan 26, 2013
Someone in law enforcement shows some common sense ... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/wis-she...

Remember ... when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away!
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#28 Jan 26, 2013
The_ Patriot_USA wrote:
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Rahn, Pignato and Joseph didn't get a slap on the wrist. So I don't agree with your statement and no legal action is cheap when an attorney is involved. I also think your looking at things wrong. The police officer is the defendant. He has an attorney working for him and a judge who decides the outcome. So you should be pointing fingers at the judge and attornies not the officer.
Rahn is already OUT OF JAIL, the average sentence for rape is 8 years, and pignato only got 3 1/2 years ... with MULTIPLE rapes,
ans that's not a slap on the wrist?

And YES, the attornies and judges are to blame, because they cow-tow to the police unions when they want to get re-elcted.

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#29 Jan 26, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
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Rahn is already OUT OF JAIL, the average sentence for rape is 8 years, and pignato only got 3 1/2 years ... with MULTIPLE rapes,
ans that's not a slap on the wrist?
And YES, the attornies and judges are to blame, because they cow-tow to the police unions when they want to get re-elcted.
First off Pignato was NEVER charged with rape or ever accused of rape, so your multiple rape accusation is out the window.

"Officer Gary Pignato, 48, of Hilton is accused of a felony crime of accepting a bribe and two misdemeanor counts coercion and official misconduct."

Again your anger is directed at the wrong people. The attorneys and the judges are the ones to blame. The judge sentenced Pignato, so how do you blame the police for light sentences when only a judge can sentence an individual.

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#31 Jan 26, 2013
Hidden Agenda wrote:
If I can't have more than 7 rounds in my gun neither should a cop or anyone else. Remember the second amendment is also in place for us to protect ourselves from our own government also. So police shouldn't be armed any better than myself.
The second Amendment is not unlimited per the Supreme court, just a tiny loophole by our founding fathers. Again, the police aren't in the business to have a level playing field. If you can't hit your target in 7 rounds either you need lessons, you are shooting too far away or you should buy another magazine. There will be an exception when it comes to law enforcement based out of necessity. The average citizen doesn't have that necessity. And again before you go all postal on me, I don't believe in the round restriction but there is a way around it....BUY MORE MAGAZINES. The politicians didn't solve a thing by reducing the rounds, just created more people to be more creative.
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#32 Jan 27, 2013
The_ Patriot_USA wrote:
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First off Pignato was NEVER charged with rape or ever accused of rape, so your multiple rape accusation is out the window.
"Officer Gary Pignato, 48, of Hilton is accused of a felony crime of accepting a bribe and two misdemeanor counts coercion and official misconduct."
Again your anger is directed at the wrong people. The attorneys and the judges are the ones to blame. The judge sentenced Pignato, so how do you blame the police for light sentences when only a judge can sentence an individual.
And WHY wasn't Pignato charged with MULTIPLE counts of rape ... that's what he did. all the prists in the cathlic church did the same thing, used their postion to gat laid. And any priest who was busted was busted for RAPE. But Pignato, he gets less time for accepting a bribe! and that's all.

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#33 Jan 27, 2013
He wasn't charged with rape because both woman consented to the sex. Pignato coerced them by telling them he would have them locked up if they didn't have sex with him, so no it's not rape.

And once again you are mad at the wrong people. The judge sets the sentence not the police department, not the union.....THE JUDGE.
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#34 Feb 4, 2013
The_ Patriot_USA wrote:
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NOPE ! I never said that. I don't agree with the new gun law and the magazine exception. I believe that it is unconstitutional and a fight is in the works to sue New York State as we speak. But as it stands right now, I think the police should be well prepared and that should trump citizens. There is a bigger need and necessity for police to have more rounds than the average citizen anyways. You know, don't show up to a gun fight with a knife kind of thing.
Now apologize for getting pissy......LOL
As far as the police needing the exception to the rule because they would need it most ... go to this page: http://americangunfacts.com/ (the references for their stats are on the bottom of the page)

look at the section marked "Concealed Carry in America"
you will see that police kill on average 606criminals a year, while the average citizens kill 1,527 criminals each year.

By those stats, the people need the exemption more than the police.

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#35 Feb 4, 2013
More people die from cancer than by rifles of any kind, by far, in NY. Men women and children. Can't we spend 35 million dollars on curing cancer?
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#37 Feb 4, 2013
Go Figure wrote:
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More people die in cars than guns. Time to ban cars that do more than 65 mph.
So we should support Louise Slauter's bit for a high speed rail from her house to Albany? Less of those "dangerous" cars on the thruway ...

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#38 Feb 4, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
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As far as the police needing the exception to the rule because they would need it most ... go to this page: http://americangunfacts.com/ (the references for their stats are on the bottom of the page)
look at the section marked "Concealed Carry in America"
you will see that police kill on average 606criminals a year, while the average citizens kill 1,527 criminals each year.
By those stats, the people need the exemption more than the police.
I don't care about that stat. Police are more likely to come in contact with hostage situations than a citizen. The police need to be better equipped than some citizen that wants to play cop. Cops also come into contact with more armed suspects on a daily basis, did a citizen take out those Hollywood bank robbers....NOPE. Were the police prepared for something like that....NOPE. They had to go to a gun store to get AR-15's. And again, I would rather have a well trained police officer protecting me than someone that has a carry permit with no training at all. But then again, I'm a very good shot so I don't need them as much.

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#39 Feb 4, 2013
LMAO....80 million armed citizens vs 794,000 cops. Man if you did the percentage there the cops would win hands down.

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#41 Feb 4, 2013
Go Figure wrote:
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If all citizens were armed we wouldn't need the cops could save this country a ton of money.
We aren't talking about vigilantes. If we didn't have politicians we could save even more money.
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#42 Feb 4, 2013
The_ Patriot_USA wrote:
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We aren't talking about vigilantes. If we didn't have politicians we could save even more money.
No we're NOT talking about Vigilanties we're talking about self defence ... because like I said before; when you only have seconds to live, the police are minutes away.

Being able to defend your self, your family and your property is more effiecntly done by the homeowners than it will EVER be by a government run agency.

Look at the Roderick Scott shooting. Those thugs were stealing from cars for months. people reported it, and the cops did nothing about it. "They were minors and there is nothing we can do." "The loss will be covered by your insurance" > yeah, so your insurance preimium goes up and you are robbed twice! Meanwhile, the police want more money because they need more to stop crime!

Since Scott killed that thug, they haven't had a problem in that neighborhood.
That's one career crimial that won't enjoy a revolving door criminal justice system.

Put that on a national level and the crime rate goes WAY down without having to manipulate the stats!

If lawmakers didn't hamstring the people we wouldn't have to pay through the nose via our tax dollars for a blue mafia that refuses to arrest minors.
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#43 Feb 4, 2013
The_ Patriot_USA wrote:
I can't believe that the state is gonna spend $ 35 million to enact this gun law. I don't have a problem with the mental health background checks. But when you tell me how much ammo I can have or carry, then I got an issue. The re-certify thing for pistol permits is stupid too. I have to re-certify to see if I am allowed to carry. I can see that the state thought this one through. If I'm not allowed to carry that means a mandated reporter reported to the state and my guns would be seized anyways. I see the re-certification as nothing more than a money grab.
Instead of screwing with law abiding citizens , how about get tougher on the criminals. The state should be looking at gun shops and how they secure their firearms overnight. 2 gun shops robbed and a 100 guns taken tells me that these guns were just left out. Personally I think they should be secured.
I agree with you on this point entirely.

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