NO EXEMPTION in New York gun law for police

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“STOP PLAYING THE RACE CARD”

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#1 Jan 19, 2013
Nice job Cuomo, you were to busy to rush this law into effect you forgot things.

A New York lawmaker says that the state’s recently passed gun control law stunningly fails to include any exemptions for law enforcement officers, and technically prohibits police from ever bringing guns on school grounds or possessing extended ammo magazines.

The NY SAFE Act, which was championed and signed into law by Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo, bans all magazines that hold more than seven bullets and pre-1994 high capacity magazines, and prohibits the carrying of guns on school grounds.

But because no loophole for law enforcement was included in the law, every police officer in the state is technically in violation of the statute even though the prohibition is unlikely to be enforced, according to New York Assemblyman Al Graf.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/17/cuomos-new-...
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#2 Jan 19, 2013
That's the way it SHOULD be!

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#3 Jan 19, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
That's the way it SHOULD be!
Are you serious? Wow. Didn't realize you were that dumb.

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#4 Jan 20, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
That's the way it SHOULD be!
No, it shouldn't be that way. Remember they are going up against criminals and criminals aren't going to just put 7 rounds in their guns.
Ha Ha

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#5 Jan 20, 2013
If the cops had to follow the same stupid laws we do ... they might realize how desprate we are when we call for help. Maybe you would respond in a timely mannor!

If I were allowed to carry my OWN weapon without a limit on MY clip, I wouldn't need them!

You mention how the criminals aren't going to stop at 7 rounds ... so maybe I need more than 7 rounds too.

Besides, you police get all this great tax payer training, if you can't take them down in the first couple of rounds I want my #@%! tax dollars back!

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#6 Jan 20, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
If the cops had to follow the same stupid laws we do ... they might realize how desprate we are when we call for help. Maybe you would respond in a timely mannor!
If I were allowed to carry my OWN weapon without a limit on MY clip, I wouldn't need them!
You mention how the criminals aren't going to stop at 7 rounds ... so maybe I need more than 7 rounds too.
Besides, you police get all this great tax payer training, if you can't take them down in the first couple of rounds I want my #@%! tax dollars back!
Yeah the police get all that training and for good reason. They don't want vigilantes out there. Now because your handgun magazine went down to 7 rounds you need the police all of a sudden. You're allowed to carry as long as you have a valid permit. Nobody wants bullets flying around by inexperienced people.

No idea what response time has to do with a bullet limit, but calls are prioritized.
rich

Mahopac, NY

#7 Jan 22, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
That's the way it SHOULD be!
Your a Putz
rich

Mahopac, NY

#8 Jan 22, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
If the cops had to follow the same stupid laws we do ... they might realize how desprate we are when we call for help. Maybe you would respond in a timely mannor!
If I were allowed to carry my OWN weapon without a limit on MY clip, I wouldn't need them!
You mention how the criminals aren't going to stop at 7 rounds ... so maybe I need more than 7 rounds too.
Besides, you police get all this great tax payer training, if you can't take them down in the first couple of rounds I want my #@%! tax dollars back!
Your a Putz! and the reason why dumb people should not be allowed to vote
Timmy

Mahopac, NY

#9 Jan 22, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
That's the way it SHOULD be!
You cant be serious
Ha Ha

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#10 Jan 23, 2013
Yes, I am serious. And for you SHEEPLE ...

First, Our government is already at war with the constitution, and cops are the first line of defense for a corrupt government. The second amendment is there to keep the government from becoming tyranical. If cops can have higher capacity magazines, body armor and automatic weapons ... law abiding citizens should have access to them too.

Second, the argument that the police need these higher capacity magazines because they face bad guys who don't follow the law ... law abiding citizens have the same need to protect themselves from that SAME threat! Sorry, but I don't feel safe enough to trust my life or my family’s life to a bureaucratic agency like the police.

It's funny how cops want more laws that effect everyone else but them ... That's kinda how Democrates roll; "don't take mine, but YOU gotta give more!"

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#11 Jan 24, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
Yes, I am serious. And for you SHEEPLE ...
First, Our government is already at war with the constitution, and cops are the first line of defense for a corrupt government. The second amendment is there to keep the government from becoming tyranical. If cops can have higher capacity magazines, body armor and automatic weapons ... law abiding citizens should have access to them too.
Second, the argument that the police need these higher capacity magazines because they face bad guys who don't follow the law ... law abiding citizens have the same need to protect themselves from that SAME threat! Sorry, but I don't feel safe enough to trust my life or my family’s life to a bureaucratic agency like the police.
It's funny how cops want more laws that effect everyone else but them ... That's kinda how Democrates roll; "don't take mine, but YOU gotta give more!"
Actually the military is the first line of defense, but anyways. I don't agree with your assessment, first off police are better trained and equipped to deal with gun nuts than the average citizen. Secondly you can't have an even playing field when it comes to police and criminals. Look what happened in that bank robbery years ago in California. The police were out gunned and had to go to gun shops to get assault rifles.

Thirdly, the police are more likely than the average citizen to get into a gun fight purely by what they have to deal with on a daily basis. And it's not the police who want more laws, it's the politicians. Our police unions didn't want this new gun law and they told Cuomo that, he ignored them and did it for publicity.
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#12 Jan 24, 2013
No, the militay isn't the first line of defense ... Posse Comitatus and all. Police are first, and the national guard can be used a law enforcement at the govenor's request (title 32 not title 10)

Police aren't the only ones trained to use weapons ... many people who are currently in the military or were recently discarged are just as proficient with firearms as most police. With the large number of war vets who fought in combat ... probably MORE proficient.

Yes, cops are more likely to get into gun battles than the average person off the street. Cops can shoot people without fear of prosicution because they have the police union behind them. Look at the shooting of Brad Horton (google it) when the Souper Twoopers were looking for Buckey Phillips. They gunned that guy down and Twooper Sean Pierce was back to work before the end of the day! Maybe cops wouldn't be too quick to gun down innocent people if they knew innocent people might shoot back!!!
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#13 Jan 24, 2013
Here is a perfect example of how a home owner turned the tide because he had the intruder out gunned ... if he had waited for the police to arrive, they would have shown up with their extra 3 rounds well after the intruders left!!!
http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story/Homeow...

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#14 Jan 24, 2013
Ha Ha wrote:
Here is a perfect example of how a home owner turned the tide because he had the intruder out gunned ... if he had waited for the police to arrive, they would have shown up with their extra 3 rounds well after the intruders left!!!
http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story/Homeow...
I'm not talking home defense, and if you can't stop an intruder in 7 rounds in a confined space such as a home, then maybe you shouldn't carry.

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#15 Jan 24, 2013
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No, the militay isn't the first line of defense ... Posse Comitatus and all. Police are first, and the national guard can be used a law enforcement at the govenor's request (title 32 not title 10)
Police aren't the only ones trained to use weapons ... many people who are currently in the military or were recently discarged are just as proficient with firearms as most police. With the large number of war vets who fought in combat ... probably MORE proficient.
Yes, cops are more likely to get into gun battles than the average person off the street. Cops can shoot people without fear of prosicution because they have the police union behind them. Look at the shooting of Brad Horton (google it) when the Souper Twoopers were looking for Buckey Phillips. They gunned that guy down and Twooper Sean Pierce was back to work before the end of the day! Maybe cops wouldn't be too quick to gun down innocent people if they knew innocent people might shoot back!!!
Now you are just being stupid. Police are investigated for every discharge of a firearm. They are not exempt from prosecution and you know it. If they acted with negligence then they are going to be charged. All police shooting of a person go to the grand jury, so again you're off base.

The military is this countries first line of defense, last time i looked, the National Guard was part of the military. "The Armies Clause
"Congress may declare war, raise and support armies…"

The "armies clause" in Article I, Section 8, conferred on Congress the power to provide for the common defense of the United States, declare war, raise and support armies, and make rules for the "government and regulation of the land and naval forces.

" The Congress also was granted authority to make all laws "necessary and proper" for carrying out such powers. Under this provision, congressional power over the National Guard appears to be far-reaching."

Moving on, military vets are trained in combat operations, not civilian police matters. As far as Pierce goes, your wrong, he was not back at work by the end of the day. He was placed on administrative leave while the shooting was being investigated.
f patriot

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#16 Jan 24, 2013
oh so its wrong for cops to be forced to use only 7 but its cool to hold the people to that standard?

screw ya

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#17 Jan 24, 2013
f patriot wrote:
oh so its wrong for cops to be forced to use only 7 but its cool to hold the people to that standard?
screw ya
NOPE ! I never said that. I don't agree with the new gun law and the magazine exception. I believe that it is unconstitutional and a fight is in the works to sue New York State as we speak. But as it stands right now, I think the police should be well prepared and that should trump citizens. There is a bigger need and necessity for police to have more rounds than the average citizen anyways. You know, don't show up to a gun fight with a knife kind of thing.

Now apologize for getting pissy......LOL

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#18 Jan 24, 2013
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I'm not talking home defense, and if you can't stop an intruder in 7 rounds in a confined space such as a home, then maybe you shouldn't carry.
I respectfully disagree. I would like to have the amount of round in my firearm that it is designed to have, or more, just like the police choose and military choose, you can't have too many. One scenario, multiple attackers or ones hopped up on drugs that take a few extra rounds to put down. Plus when I practice, why should I have to reload a dozen times? I am a better shot that most police, there are some good police marksmen though. One cop stopped by to check us out practicing, we asked him if he wanted to join us. He said he didn't want to be embarassed. He also told us his gun didn't work, the firing pin was broken and was waiting for the replacement. We told him to join us and borrow a gun, training and practice are more important than pride and we would not make him feel bad about it. He was a quick learner and I hope we helped him ditch a few bad habits that might save his life. I digress.

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#19 Jan 24, 2013
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<quoted text>I respectfully disagree. I would like to have the amount of round in my firearm that it is designed to have, or more, just like the police choose and military choose, you can't have too many. One scenario, multiple attackers or ones hopped up on drugs that take a few extra rounds to put down. Plus when I practice, why should I have to reload a dozen times? I am a better shot that most police, there are some good police marksmen though. One cop stopped by to check us out practicing, we asked him if he wanted to join us. He said he didn't want to be embarassed. He also told us his gun didn't work, the firing pin was broken and was waiting for the replacement. We told him to join us and borrow a gun, training and practice are more important than pride and we would not make him feel bad about it. He was a quick learner and I hope we helped him ditch a few bad habits that might save his life. I digress.
Read what I wrote, I said I don't agree with the 7 round magazine gun law. You could have saved yourself a lot of writing if you just read my post correctly.

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#20 Jan 24, 2013
The_ Patriot_USA wrote:
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Read what I wrote, I said I don't agree with the 7 round magazine gun law. You could have saved yourself a lot of writing if you just read my post correctly.
I see. Sorry I jumped on ya, it just raises my hackles when even well meaning folks say stuff like "you don't need" especially in reference to firearms. Gun rights supporters(as well as the those who support the Constitution) need to come together and stand against the rising tyranny. Like when bowhunters and crossbow hunters fight, it divides folks that should work together against the real opposition, the PETA jerks and anti-hunters/anti-humans.

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