Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D

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RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>But you have faith in a knowledge that can change at any time.
No I have knowledge that new information can change new theories.

When you have mountains and mountains of evidence all pointing in a single direction and not a shred of evidence pointing the others, it is pretty much a given, however always open to new credible information.

The problem is most people that try to present "credible" information wonít put it through proper channels, they wont publish for peer review in the scientific journals, because they know they w0ould be torn to shreds, so they post it in politically stilted websites to try and trick the gullible.

Nothing is easier to sell than a lie to someone that already desperately wants to believe it.
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RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't say you were gay, did I? Where do you get your Faith from? You have a lot of faith in speculation and guesses.
I have none at all, that is why I dont even click on the websites you present. I know who the shysters are. If people are afraid of publishing something for peer review and put it on stilted websites it reminds me of a saying

He that doeth evil hateith the light.

I read that somewhere :D
Big D

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RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>But you have faith in a knowledge that can change at any time.
You donít understand the words you are using, I am not ignorant than evidence can change, so faith is totally unnecessary.

Faith requires ignorance

Knowledge does not.

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Poof wrote:
<quoted text>Right, tell me what time it is?? Still having trouble with the big hand little hand?
Like I said 3 times......
I thought the difference for Illinois
is 3 hours...BFD.....Not like I'm
in my wife's dress on Viagra dating
"Handgela" so the skirt goes up.....
That's a post that you made freak!
No one cares to hear your gross
stories old liar....

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Poof wrote:
<quoted text>Right, tell me what time it is?? Still having trouble with the big hand little hand?
Time for you to grow up Pothead!
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Poof wrote:
<quoted text>Right, tell me what time it is?? Still having trouble with the big hand little hand?
Still having trouble spelling your job title?
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Cali Girl 13 wrote:
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Like I said 3 times......
I thought the difference for Illinois
is 3 hours...BFD.....Not like I'm
in my wife's dress on Viagra dating
"Handgela" so the skirt goes up.....
That's a post that you made freak!
No one cares to hear your gross
stories old liar....
Poof daddy is such a silly jackass. Always looking for an angle. He can't even spell his job title yet he has the balls to criticize someone for mistaking a time zone.

Like we care if Jizzytime is 2 or 3 hours difference, right? But if you can't spell your job title and you call yourself a "master" It's frkn FUNNY!

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Big D wrote:
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No I have knowledge that new information can change new theories.
Why do you put all your faith into something that is not rock solid? But yet are critical of others that do? Are your guesses and theories better then there's? You put a lot of faith into yourself.
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RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>But you have faith in a knowledge that can change at any time.
You arenít going to get it

No matter how hard you try, you cannot reduce science down to your level of belief in a fairy story.

You cant

Even if you could present a shred of evidence, to say.. letís use the age of the universe. Even if you could produce that tiny scrap of evidence, that would not in any way negate the mountains of evidence that points to the age we currently have as over 13 billion years.

Any theory you could present would have to include those mountains of evidence, what are you going to use pixie dust wonít make it go away. Or are you going to say that your deity created this false evidence to try and trick people into being tortured for all eternity ( I have actually heard that one ) that will convince people to worship some evil thing salivating over trying to trick people into being tortured.

This is why all the stuff you are so faithful to has never been presented for peer review... because it would be ripped to shreds by the mountains of evidence that already exists.

You cannot reduce science down to the level of a mere belief.
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Cali Girl 13 wrote:
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Time for you to grow up Pothead!
I bet the weed is nasty where Jizzy lives too.

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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>Poof daddy is such a silly jackass. Always looking for an angle. He can't even spell his job title yet he has the balls to criticize someone for mistaking a time zone.

Like we care if Jizzytime is 2 or 3 hours difference, right? But if you can't spell your job title and you call yourself a "master" It's frkn FUNNY!
Shouldn't a boss know how to spell
his own job...This guy is too dumb!
He keeps digging himself farther
and farther in doo doo...Notice he
does NOT call me out on the Viagra
story?Because he posted it here and
too many people read it....lol

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<quoted text>I bet the weed is nasty where Jizzy lives too.
Imagine.....
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RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you put all your faith into something that is not rock solid? But yet are critical of others that do? Are your guesses and theories better then there's? You put a lot of faith into yourself.
I donít

you do, you put faith in things that there is no evidence for whatsoever, certainly nothing rock solid.

I have knowledge, I donít need faith

I donít use guesses, theories are not guesses, established theories ( that are close to irrefutable by any future evidence possible ) I do take for granted, but it isnít faith, that requires ignorance, that is your domain, not mine.

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Big D wrote:
<quoted text>I don’t

you do, you put faith in things that there is no evidence for whatsoever, certainly nothing rock solid.

I have knowledge, I don’t need faith

I don’t use guesses, theories are not guesses, established theories ( that are close to irrefutable by any future evidence possible ) I do take for granted, but it isn’t faith, that requires ignorance, that is your domain, not mine.
Not trying to disrespect you but
just a question....
What would you do if you died
and found out it was true,or
saw something supernatural?
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Cali Girl 13 wrote:
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Not trying to disrespect you but
just a question....
What would you do if you died
and found out it was true,or
saw something supernatural?
Please feel free to disrespect Big D. Don't hold back. He doesn't.
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Not trying to disrespect you but
just a question....
What would you do if you died
and found out it was true,or
saw something supernatural?
I would be satisfied, I actually believe in certain things people would call supernatural. But it is just a belief, I wouldnít be upset if proved wrong.

But I am good either way :)

Lets say Ricardo's God, the one that will send anyone that has not worshiped him to everlasting torture.

No problem, I wouldnít worship that evil thing even if it was the only God. It makes you wonder why an all-powerful being so craves worship that it would torture anyone that doesnít.

Sounds like a terrorist to me, I wonít worship that. So I would happily go to the other place knowing I made the right decision.

I am good either way, I donít know what happens after we die, any more than I know what happens to a cockroach after it dies ( no one seems to consider that )

But I donít have to make up stories or adopt others stories.

There are things that I believe, that science cannot prove and likely will never be able to. But I am not so attached to my beliefs to elevate them to the level of a faith, someone I put in front of actual knowledge, and excluding any knowledge that disagrees with my belief, that is a fools game.

Let me give you an example, I believe I have known my wife before. But it isnít a religion to me, it is just something I happen to believe, if I am wrong... no big deal. I donít devote my life to that belief, I donít worship that belief, it is just a puny belief that I cannot and probably never will be able to prove or know.

I just think so :)

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Big D wrote:
<quoted text>I would be satisfied, I actually believe in certain things people would call supernatural. But it is just a belief, I wouldn’t be upset if proved wrong.

But I am good either way :)

Lets say Ricardo's God, the one that will send anyone that has not worshiped him to everlasting torture.

No problem, I wouldn’t worship that evil thing even if it was the only God. It makes you wonder why an all-powerful being so craves worship that it would torture anyone that doesn’t.

Sounds like a terrorist to me, I won’t worship that. So I would happily go to the other place knowing I made the right decision.

I am good either way, I don’t know what happens after we die, any more than I know what happens to a cockroach after it dies ( no one seems to consider that )

But I don’t have to make up stories or adopt others stories.

There are things that I believe, that science cannot prove and likely will never be able to. But I am not so attached to my beliefs to elevate them to the level of a faith, someone I put in front of actual knowledge, and excluding any knowledge that disagrees with my belief, that is a fools game.

Let me give you an example, I believe I have known my wife before. But it isn’t a religion to me, it is just something I happen to believe, if I am wrong... no big deal. I don’t devote my life to that belief, I don’t worship that belief, it is just a puny belief that I cannot and probably never will be able to prove or know.

I just think so :)
I'm not a fanatic,I just try to be
a good person,and hope for
the best.I don't believe you go
to Hell if you are a non believer,
I think that people like murderers
don't get to enjoy their afterlife,
with their families,but that is just me.
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Poof wrote:
<quoted text>You can not disguize your location, unless you are using a proxy serever.
I told you, If I post from a PC, its one location, my I phone another, and from my I pad another. I pad at work shows Moline, PC at home, Madison, I phone, well that depends where I am at. Its not hard dummy.
So you posted this from your home?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/los-angeles-c...

Poof
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"I'm not ashamed of who I am. Today it's gay rights, tomorrow the decriminalization of man-boy love. "
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Cali Girl 13 wrote:
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I'm not a fanatic,I just try to be
a good person,and hope for
the best.I don't believe you go
to Hell if you are a non believer,
I think that people like murderers
don't get to enjoy their afterlife,
with their families,but that is just me.
Me too, Iím a good guy, I donít hurt people, I help educate children, my wife tells me I am a great husband but I think she is nuts I donít know how she puts up with me.

I do understand why you feel the way you do, you want karma to be true, most religions are built upon karma

I donít believe it, I certainly donít worship the idea, it is something that I wish were true, but actually doubt it.

Still I have to live with myself, so I remain a decent person :)

The world is what we make it, I would rather make it a better place than a worse one.

Which is why I support people like the gay community, I donít belong to them, but support them as fellow American. I am for freedom.

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laughing man wrote:
<quoted text>So you posted this from your home?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/los-angeles-c...

Poof
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Friday Oct 18

"I'm not ashamed of who I am. Today it's gay rights, tomorrow the decriminalization of man-boy love. "
Wow how disgusting......

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