Are you being railroaded?

Are you being railroaded?

There are 47 comments on the Times Standard story from Jan 14, 2008, titled Are you being railroaded?. In it, Times Standard reports that:

Railroads have always seemed romantic. Then I remember their role in the genocide of Indians and destruction of forests in the West, and suddenly the romanticism fades.

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CarolC

Eureka, CA

#1 Jan 14, 2008
Well researched. Thank you, Sungnome.
Neal Latt

Eureka, CA

#2 Jan 14, 2008
Fantastic editorial. I completely agree.
John Wooley, Patty Berg et. al., are you taking note?

Since: Dec 07

Eureka!

#3 Jan 14, 2008
Thank you Sungnome. It's about time that we hold our elected officials accountable for their actions.
2 Cents

Capitola, CA

#4 Jan 14, 2008
Yes.This county has things called geological obstacles or steep mountains with loose rocks. Thats' why it is not a container port.

Build the rail trail.Bypass the highway 101 bottlenecks.Can the railroad revival idea.Problem solved.
damn

United States

#5 Jan 14, 2008
I too support the development of a trail, i live on the avenue of the giants and i would love to see a trail along the old railroad line, it would also be cool if the trail could fork from the southfork bridge and also connect to the existing trail project to connect the communitys of the avenue of the giants, so far we have already compleated the trail from burlinton to weott. From my point of view it would be great to bring more recreational activitys to the avenue since tourism is our main industry here i think it would be great. The salmon are not going to bring us tourism any time soon, the trees do a great job and the trail would only sweeten the deal!

Since: Dec 07

Eureka, Ca

#6 Jan 14, 2008
Ah, socialism is alive an well. Hate the rich.
old hippy

Stockton, CA

#7 Jan 14, 2008
I've been hearing about the trail from Arcata to Blue Lake for over 20 years. This county can't find it's ass with both hands.
criticex

Mckinleyville, CA

#8 Jan 14, 2008
So... when are we getting the railroad?
Go Humbolt

United States

#9 Jan 15, 2008
Give Woolley a train set already.
30 year transplant

Sacramento, CA

#10 Jan 15, 2008
I couldn't agree more with the writer. However, I have been told that in order to abandon the old rail line, the cost of restoring the land to its original state would be even greater than keeping the line alive (on paper).

How do we let such laws get legisilated?

In the mean time there's some cherry positions on the NCRA board that provide appointees with better than decent salaries and very little to actually accomplish. Shame on us for allowing it to happen.
timberbeast

Arcata, CA

#11 Jan 15, 2008
Ya,

Typical liberal bs. This country wouldn't be here without those railroads, the lives lost building them or the hard work that was put into building them. Socialism did not build those railroads, capitalism did, hard working capitalism. Railroads transformed this country into what it is now so hippies in Humboldt can eat their tofu and smoke their pot, and call themselves weird names.
earl

Sacramento, CA

#12 Jan 15, 2008
Timberbeast-
If capitalism built the railroad, why can't capitalism let it die? An additional $19 million of TAX money won't make pigs fly or get trains running on those rails. It will go where the rest of the untold millions have gone--into a black hole of corruption. Support it, if you like.
neomoderate

Sacramento, CA

#13 Jan 15, 2008
timberbeast

We needed it then, it helped develop our area, and it got the trees down to points south. We're done witht he liquidation logging phase of our economy, the RR has taken a huge hit and was losing money before that happened. We don't need it anymore, as sad as that is. So let's use the corridor for something instead of letting it rot. I don't see what's liberal about it - sounds fiscally conservative to me. Ya'll are against pork barrel projects, right?
sungnome

San Francisco, CA

#14 Jan 15, 2008
Yes it will cost alot to clean it up and convert the rail line in the canyon to a trail. But at least that will be work that restores salmon and communities. It is a form of reinvestment where everyone would benefit. Spending hundreds of millions of public dollars on something that may benefit a few private interests is not my form of capitalism. All industries have subsidies. Does that make that socialism? The question is what do we want? Who beneifts and who pays? And what are the appropropriate subsidies for the things that truely benefit society. Does timberbeast think that susidies for the rich is capitalism and subsidies for the poor is welfare?
Sungnome really lame name

United States

#15 Jan 15, 2008
Why don't you just call yourself Treehugging Loser Living off Mommy and Daddy's Trustfund.
bucketofbeef

Arcata, CA

#16 Jan 15, 2008
Let see here...
so much anger here over hippie loving crap..
I agree with timberbeast all the way!
He has a great point and a lot for you all to learn!
Go on now, grab your co-op loving, bland tasting,honk if ya love hippies tofu and realize that it is all based on capitalism.
Dam Liberals...
Joe Bonino

United States

#17 Jan 15, 2008
Sungnome, I think you are allowing your vociferous political opinions to cloud your judgement as a professional engineer. As such, you of all people know that with today's technology rebuilding the difficult sections of the railroad line to Willits is not a fantasy.
The toughest portions of the line, i.e, the bridges, are still intact. Adding more tunnels and enlarging and stabilizing the existing tunnels to accommodate double decker container cars is very doable with modern equipment.
The sections of the line that have eroded into the river are the most troublesome. But, you, yourself, Sungnome--as a professional engineer--know that the problem is not insurmountable.
As for your attacks on the rich and powerful I think you should stick to your engineering and leave the business, accounting, and politics to the professionals in those areas.

Thank you.
Lola

Eureka, CA

#18 Jan 15, 2008
timberbeast wrote:
Railroads transformed this country into what it is now so hippies in Humboldt can eat their tofu and smoke their pot, and call themselves weird names.
A lot of who aren't hippies call them weird names,too!
Do you have a chain saw, Timberbeast?
I just love your name, honey.
Do you like parties?
Lola

Eureka, CA

#19 Jan 15, 2008
bucketofbeef wrote:
Let see here...
so much anger here over hippie loving crap..
I agree with timberbeast all the way!
He has a great point and a lot for you all to learn!
Go on now, grab your co-op loving, bland tasting,honk if ya love hippies tofu and realize that it is all based on capitalism.
Dam Liberals...
Honey, you don't need a chainsaw, you can come to my party just as you are. It's going to be a Bar-B-Que!
Lola
Bristol

Eureka, CA

#20 Jan 15, 2008
neomoderate wrote:
Ya'll are against pork barrel projects, right?
Not me!
I love pork chops!

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