'I didn't mean to offend'

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TV Guide Channel 'Watch This' host John Henson says he didn't intend to offend anyone or disparage the state of Mississippi when he said in plugging an upcoming episode of 'Extreme Makeover' that all homes in ...
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Apr 10, 2007
 
Why is it comedey when a black person jokes about "Whitey", But anything said that could be infered to or implied as being insensative to black people is all of a sudden racist?

Jamie Fox, Dave Chappell and others all joke about "Whitey" Even as far as doing jokes about blacks killing "Whitey". And no bod thinks thats racist? Nobody protests against them?

Yet a white man makes a reference that does not even have any racial connotation to it, and a team with a black coach and almost half a team of black players all of a sudden says it's racist and insensative? If he had made that comment about Notre Dame, would people say it was a racist comment? I have head him make even worse comments about white people and mostly white institutions, and yet nobody complained then. So why does it have to be that black people seem to always complain everything is so racist against them. Almost sems like they dont realy want equality, just special pampering treatment. I mean if blacks really wanted to be equal, they wouldnt alow other blacks to even use the "N" word about blacks, they would chastise blacks for making "Whitey" jokes, and they would not deliberately trying to seperate themselfs from "American" society by being "African-American" they would be just simply "American" like everybody else.

P.S. This applies to the "Hispanics/Latinos" as well.

P.P.S. I am Ainu, and if you think you kn ow the Ainu, think again, with less than 150,000 total Aniu alive in the world, we truely are the most Minority people there is. If we were an Animal, we would be on the endangered species list, but because we are Human beings, we are being eliminated and forgotten and un-reconised. But then I first and foremost consider myself American. Not "Ainu-American", just American.

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Apr 11, 2007
 
Since when did it become a bad thing to be offended? If you find something spoiled in the 'fridge, it smells "offensive". If someone says something nasty in church, it is "offensive". When you see a 300 lb. linebacker coming at you, he is probably intent on inflicting as much bodily harm upon you as he possibly can!

Being offended is a GOOD thing! If we get offended at our leaders, we replace them!(God Bless America!). If we get offended at inferior service, we complain! Ask Wal-Mart how many complaints they get a day!

We need to stop confusing "offended" with "insulted". If I hear a comedian say that "Southeners are stupid", then I am offended, but will try to consider why such a stereotype can be applied to me. However, If the same comedian were to say that I was stupid, then I would feel insulted, and very quickly point out my good grades and/or test scores!

Imus crosssed the line in this way...He is a nationally known public figure. He stooped to regionally based stereotypes. Nationally, you cannot single out any race, religion, sect, cult, gender, gender-bender, Jew, Klansman, etc...etc...ecch!, without SOMEONE getting "offended"! He chose, however, to be INSULTING, a much higher level of poor judgment! And doing it on a public platform only compounded the issue!

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Apr 11, 2007
 
Ainu...is that an Eskimo tribe? Not being insulting, just very inquisitive!

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Apr 11, 2007
 
Dustymoonrise wrote:
Ainu...is that an Eskimo tribe? Not being insulting, just very inquisitive!
I am not offened nor insulted about the question. Ainu are the indigenous native people of the Japanese islands, mostly the norther islands and mostly on Hokido. Ainu's are a totally white skinned, blond hair and green eyes or hazel eyed population. They have the almond eyes like other "Asian" cultures like the Koreans or Chinese or even the Japanese. Some people say that the Ainu's must have had Russian or Scandanavian influences, but this is just theory. Ainu's are a totem culture like some Eskimo and native American tribes. They are cousins to the Inuit of Canada. Ainu itself is a word and language. The word means "Human" The writen language of Ainu is a combination of San Scrit and Rune and Kanji, the spoken language is simular to Japanese and American Navaho and Eskimo.

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Apr 11, 2007
 
Dustymoonrise wrote:
Since when did it become a bad thing to be offended? If you find something spoiled in the 'fridge, it smells "offensive". If someone says something nasty in church, it is "offensive". When you see a 300 lb. linebacker coming at you, he is probably intent on inflicting as much bodily harm upon you as he possibly can!
Being offended is a GOOD thing! If we get offended at our leaders, we replace them!(God Bless America!). If we get offended at inferior service, we complain! Ask Wal-Mart how many complaints they get a day!
We need to stop confusing "offended" with "insulted". If I hear a comedian say that "Southeners are stupid", then I am offended, but will try to consider why such a stereotype can be applied to me. However, If the same comedian were to say that I was stupid, then I would feel insulted, and very quickly point out my good grades and/or test scores!
Imus crosssed the line in this way...He is a nationally known public figure. He stooped to regionally based stereotypes. Nationally, you cannot single out any race, religion, sect, cult, gender, gender-bender, Jew, Klansman, etc...etc...ecch!, without SOMEONE getting "offended"! He chose, however, to be INSULTING, a much higher level of poor judgment! And doing it on a public platform only compounded the issue!
I understand this thinking. However this is not what they are doing. Instead of making this what it was, bad comments about a really good womans basketball team. They have made it into a racist thing, like it was an attack against all black people. I mus made his comments about the "whole team" Only 8 women on the team are black as is the coach. That means more of the players are white or non black players. So I guess this "racist" thinking means that all the non black players can not be insulted or offended.(Sorry I used "offended", but that was a word used by the womans coach who said "As a black woman I am offened at his comment".) Instantly the "Black" coach turned Imus's comments into a race issue. It should be addresses as a man who made some bad comments against a really good womans team, the whole team, not just the "Black" players on the team..... The black members of the team are not the only one's whom Imus's comment was made too or should be insulting too.... But I guess the "White" players on the team do not really matter right?

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Apr 11, 2007
 
Good comments...as someone who should fill a job application as "mostly" white, I don't know whether to be offended or not! LOL I am a "Heinz 57" when it comes to race. German, French, English, Choctaw Indian, Cherokee Indian, occasional "fence jumper", and who knows what else! I laugh when I hear some "white" southern male spew "white supremacy" comments...most of then are like myself, a hodge-podge of many different races and/or cultures.I appreciate the history lesson of the Ainu!

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Apr 11, 2007
 
And, is "Zero" a pun on the Japanese warplane? Sorry, just pulling your leg

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Apr 13, 2007
 
Dustymoonrise wrote:
And, is "Zero" a pun on the Japanese warplane? Sorry, just pulling your leg
Maybe? My Ainu Grandfather from my mothers side called me Rei Karamasta. It is so hard to directly translate Japanese/Ainu literally, because it is a symbolic figurative language. However I will try to get as close as I can...

REI: Zero. Nothing. Empty. Void. Null. Power. Nothing. Blank. Light. Spirit. Will. Heart. Being.

KARA: Zero. Void. Emptiness. Understanding. Intellegence. Soul. Spirit. Energy.

masta: super polite and proper personalised connection form for, attaching to the previous word.

Put them both together, REI and KARA you get REIKARAmasta. or ZERO VOID, EMPTY SOUL, UNDERSTANDING SPIRT. You choose. Take any combination of the meaning words and put them togetehr. I just chose Zero Void cause it sounding intresting.

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Apr 13, 2007
 
Dustymoonrise wrote:
Good comments...as someone who should fill a job application as "mostly" white, I don't know whether to be offended or not! LOL I am a "Heinz 57" when it comes to race. German, French, English, Choctaw Indian, Cherokee Indian, occasional "fence jumper", and who knows what else! I laugh when I hear some "white" southern male spew "white supremacy" comments...most of then are like myself, a hodge-podge of many different races and/or cultures.I appreciate the history lesson of the Ainu!
I think everybody in the word is a heinz 57. I myself was adopted to a very "White" man. He adopted 18 children before they wouldnt let him adopt anymore. My biolaogical mother had a large amount of children also, spawning 26 children and adopting them all out. She told me once she enjoyed being like the old Viennan Courteseans, which she very much was back in the late 50 and all through the 60's and into the mid 70's. I think she still is sort of one. I guess it was the Asian look and her Ohma diving profession that made all the guys like her.

I am very sensative to "Race" issues. I just hate it when a "race" claims an issue for themselfs instead of making it a "Human" rights issue as it really is. I also hate when people hide behind "Race" as a means of pity and sympathy. We are all human, and life is tough. Sometimes life is tougher for some people than others but life does not pick out a person by race, it's just a random thing. Being white and poverty poor is just like being black and poverty poor. Starving to death for black people is just like starving to death for white people, and everybody bleeds red blood. Death also is an equal opprotunity person. He or she comes for everybody. He or she does not let people go and live just because they are white. He or she does not care the persons skin colour, he or she takes all people the same. It's about the treatment of fellow human beings. I think we have all forgotten that.

Ironcally, if they were so upset at his comment. it hows he has power over them. He can control their feelings. If he was powerless, they would not have cared, nor made such a fuss. it would not have bothered them I mean people call me all sorts of names all the time. They make rude and crude comments about me all the time. I think so what, thats just their opinion and they have a right too it. No big deal

If I really wanted to get upset over "race" issues. I would be upset about the man who attacked me at a bus stop one day. I was on my way to work and this man, a "black" man, came up behind me and started clobbering me with a baseball bat and yelling "Kill Whitey, Kill Whitey...." When I called it in and the Police came and took my report, the "black" police offer said, sounds like he was just upset. Do you think I would ever be able to push this as a "race" issue? Do you think that when I go to court to testify against this man that they will have charged him with a race crime or a hate crime? Do you think I should be all upset and get a bee up my butt and make it all a big deal? All the black people I have heard speaak up on this incident says no. Why? If it was a white man beating on a black me, even without saying "kill the n..." The black community would be up in arms about the "race" crime.

My view point is, if you want equality, then start stepping up and acting equal, and being equal.

Imus was just rude and uncoth, but his comments where not racial in anyway. The only people eally complaining are the black coach and the black players, who are only a small part of the entire team. 8 black players out of the team of 20 players or so and no because of all the media attention the people who stand to profit the most from it being a race issue. for there is money in "race" issues and a lot of the pity play in the "race" issue.

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Apr 13, 2007
 
I have never talked with anyone else in my life who so clearly explained how I myself view the race issue.

"Race" was a term invented during the whole "Darwin" controversy after he published his 'Origin of Species'. It was a term that the "upper class" invented as a way to prove themselves "superior" to other humans.

I think that if we started NOW to teach our children not to view themselves as white, black, hispanic, jew, christian, muslim, whatever first, but to teach them to think of themselves as HUMAN before anything else, then a lot of the hatred and bigotry that exists in this world would cease to exist!

I think you are bang on when you say that too many people hide behind the race issue to feel sorry for themselves...although I grew up "look through the floorboards and see the chickens" poor, I was never taught to blame my poverty on anyone!

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Apr 13, 2007
 
I guess it was the Asian look and her Ohma diving profession that made all the guys like her.
Is this like a "pearl diver"? I staye for a while at a KOA campground in Florida as a youth. One of the best friends I made there was a Japanese boy, whose father was a pearl diver. This man taught me to hyperventilate, then be able to hold my breath for a LONG time in the DEEP end of the swimming pool...totally freaked out my parents! I still remember this experience as an older adult, and still use the "breathing excersises" during times of stress!
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Apr 17, 2007
 
Imus portray racist in America. Black Americans are taking over our History books; finally the stories/accounts will be correct. For years, Black children were forced to learn history not accurate. Blacks can joke about other Blacks but no other race permitted to comment about Blacks that's the bottom line.

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Apr 18, 2007
 
Justice wrote:
Imus portray racist in America. Black Americans are taking over our History books; finally the stories/accounts will be correct. For years, Black children were forced to learn history not accurate. Blacks can joke about other Blacks but no other race permitted to comment about Blacks that's the bottom line.
Let me point out an obvious flaw with this line of reasoning...it would apply to ALL races! Whites can joke about other whites, mexicans can...asians can...Indians can...muslims can...'but no other race...' Look, don't try to say that no one besides another black can poke fun at a black. One of the funniest shows I watched on TV was "In Living Color", even though they poked fun at my race, region, religion, etc. Why did I find it funny? Because this show made fun of ALL people, themselves included! Let's ALL quit defining ourselves by skin color, and start defining ourselves by what we ALL are! We are all human beings, we all share the same problems, wants, desires, etc.! Stop thinking in terms of "inferior", "superior", "victim", "perpetrator", and the list goes on! I never owned slaves...I was never a slave...but all my life this has been put in front of me...LET"S ALL MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER and put the PAST behind us!

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Apr 18, 2007
 
Justice wrote:
Imus portray racist in America. Black Americans are taking over our History books; finally the stories/accounts will be correct. For years, Black children were forced to learn history not accurate. Blacks can joke about other Blacks but no other race permitted to comment about Blacks that's the bottom line.
And once upon a time The King of England could sleep with any woman he wanted and kill anybody he anted. But times change, and society progresses. Once upon a time The "Black" Egyptians called Nubians enslaved a "White" population called Hebrews, for more than 1,000 years. Until Moses came along and freed the "Whites" from the "Blacks" but time progressed and society changed and life went on..... The lessons here is that we can not continually dwell on past mistakes.

Blacks are just as guilty as whites in being racist. Blacks themselfs cause just as much racial division as whites do. There really should be no "Black" history month. Just as there is no "White" history month. We should instead have a compleate history, one that includes all peoples, "Black", "White", "Asian" "Native American", that have changed our society, and it should be taught to all people ireguardless of race or skin colour. "Black" History only serves to divide people more and more.

Here's Imus's entire "Racist" statement that offened the "Black" Coach and 8 of the "Black" players. Only 8 of the entire team of over 20 are black mind you. The "black" coach and the 8 "black" players are the only one's complaining by the way... But Imus's statement about the team was....."RUTGERS WOMENS BASKETBALL PLAYERS ARE A BUNCH OF NAPPY-HEADED HO'S" Notice there is no reference to Skin colour or objectionable words like the "N" word.

Imus was fired last week by CBS, which owned his radio show, and MSNBC, which produced the TV simulcast, for having referred to the Rutgers players as "nappy-headed hos".

Somebody should fire Cris Rock and Dave Chappel for refering to white people as "Crackers" all the time in their comedy.

Remember that the "Black" Panther movement and the Million Man Movemnt are nothing more than Clans with a dark tan....
Andy-student

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Apr 18, 2007
 
One of the blacks that I know says that during the 400 years of educational deprivation and forbidden education,blacks were made fun of because of their looks and lack of knowlege of the language that was forbidden to them.
They were the butt of every joke, sometimes in blackface,derogratory terms were used to describe them in newspapers and on many radio stations. You have no idea the hatred that many blacks,other than comedians, feel because of these wrongs.It is your perogative to call the station that allows such and they "must" listen if there are enough protests.I don't feel that comedians feel hatred. They simply use material that will get a laugh.
Yes, in our society, there are both black and white racists.The reason for racism is HATE! Hate is sometimes perpetuated when we blame an entire race for something negative that happened to us.CHECK THE PERSON IN THE MIRROR.

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Apr 19, 2007
 
O.K., I am not black. I was never enslaved. I was also never given any "special privilege" because I was white. You see, I grew up damn dirt poor...I would be what Jeff Foxworthy and the rest of his "blue collar" buddies term "white" or "trailer" trash. Yet I can still laugh at their jokes! Because, as offensive to me as some of their jokes are, there is an element of truth in them!

This whole idea of "race" (a term invented to support Charles Darwin's 'Origin of species' writings!) is not going to go away until we stop referring to OURSELVES as "Black", "White", "Asian", "Hispanic", etc, etc, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum! You want to end this whole race issue? STOP CALLING YOUSELF BY A COLOR! Call yourself by what we ALL are...HUMAN BEINGS! Haven't we all got enough to worry about without putting these childish, misguiding LABELS on each other, and OURSELVES!? The South Korean student who went crazy at Virginia Tech did not single out any one race or culture...He shot muslim, christian, white, mexican, jewish, german, whatever. We need to stop killing each other's spirits with words! I will join with anyone who will form a political party based on the need of HUMANITY as opposed to the need of a "group"!

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