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Taylor Glenn family must pay late dues by Oct. 8

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“Vote Republican”

Since: Aug 08

Wyandanch, NY

#1 Oct 4, 2008
Maher’s; victims?

I have heard so much about the 'poor' Maher family in Taylor-Glenn. I have learned that so many people want to support this family who admits to not adhering to their personal responsibilities. However, I have not read a single article that offers a perspective from an HOA’s perspective. Where I have compassion for the Maher’s who are working to avoid foreclosure, I have not read anything pertaining to the law(s) that states the HOA has every right to pursue foreclosure on behalf of those members of the HOA who ‘choose’ to pay their fees.

UCW; have you done your research to validate the claims of this family who argue they are ‘victims’ of unforeseen economic conditions? Have you read the Taylor-Glenn HOA covenants and restrictions that state foreclosure is an option if a homeowner does not pay their fees? Have you studied the NC planned community act? Finally, have you researched any files in search of precedent on this matter? Or, are you just laying our the story as is to continue creating excitement at the expense of the Maher’s?

My issue is that the UCW has carefully framed articles that paint the Maher’s family as the victims. The UCW has also garnered support from members of the same HOA. But, has anyone asked that these members who openly support this family to open their wallets and show their support by paying their bills? If these people have so much sympathy and/or empathy, then show it by closing this matter and settling the amount due to the HOA.

Again, where I have some sympathy for this family and their children, these people are victims of making poor decisions. Now they want the community to feel sorry for them and step up by making their embarrassing circumstances public. Where their own HOA contract essentially states that you are to carry your own weight if you ‘choose’ to live in Taylor-Glenn. These are people who knew the rules, took a chance, made poor family-planning decisions, poor employment and career decisions, poor real-estate decisions, and are now looking for someone to blame for their circumstances.

There are only two groups of victims on this matter. The children of the Maher’s who have a responsibility to protect their offspring by making responsible decisions, and, the remaining members of the HOA who are forced to carry families who either can not or will not pull their own weight.

I am sure the Maher’s are fine people. Their poor decision-making should not be a reflection of their total character. This is just one area where they have shown weakness and unfortunately, this matter has become public.

The responsibility of the Board for the Taylor-Glenn HOA is to act in the best interests of the entire HOA. The HOA has a family who has not paid their HOA fees for three years, and the Board has a legal requirement to ‘act’ in accordance to their bylaws. The very bylaws they all signed and agreed to. Now, the UCW is empowering the opposition to the current HOA Board by publishing their position. Without first, balancing the argument by giving the ‘other side’. Unfortunately, the current Board cannot publicly comment because they are legally bound to protect the privacy for the Maher’s family. Something the Maher’s have chosen not to do. They have chosen to pull the sympathy card, which may work. But, you must appreciate the imbalance this creates when a public paper tries to tell a ‘story’. This is simply “Economic Darwinism” at work.

“Vote Republican”

Since: Aug 08

Wyandanch, NY

#2 Oct 5, 2008
This is a related article on this topic.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/408/story/20...
Taylor-Glenn family

Newark, CA

#3 Oct 6, 2008
Well said 'Hate'. Why do you hate Syracuse anyway. I agree the city sucks. Is it the school?

“Vote Republican”

Since: Aug 08

Wyandanch, NY

#4 Oct 6, 2008
Taylor-Glenn family wrote:
Well said 'Hate'. Why do you hate Syracuse anyway. I agree the city sucks. Is it the school?
I am sure the people of Syracuse are fine. I am not a fan of SU sports. That dome that was built using public subsidies was built for a private university. When the states only Div I program in the state (Buffalo) does not have a dome. So, I guess it is jealousy.
sikofit

Indian Trail, NC

#5 Oct 11, 2008
Good job by Home Depot. HOA's have turned into "Big Brothers", but unfortunately this family probably knew all the by-laws and restrictions when they purchased the home. Does HOA have a backup plan for families that are struck by the failing economy or do they simply kick them out?

“Vote Republican”

Since: Aug 08

Wyandanch, NY

#6 Oct 11, 2008
sikofit wrote:
Good job by Home Depot. HOA's have turned into "Big Brothers",...
I think it was very nice of Home Depot to step in and help a fellow employee. This is a sad story with a wonder ending. However, what I find troubling is your distain for HOA’s. These are sub-municipal authorities that exist to protect the value or your homes and quality of life. But, in order for HOA’s to do this, they have to require that all members of the HOA share be spread equitably. That means, everyone must pay their dues, and pay on time. All members must share in the burdens of living in an HOA, if you are going to choose to live in one.

HOA’s do not control your life as you imply with your “Big Brother” assertion. This was a family, in spite of being very nice people, have made a sequence of very poor choices. And, they needed someone to bail them out. Fortunately, for them, they found a group that was willing to do so. But, it is not the job of the membership of a given HOA to bail any one family out. The Maher’s new the rules, they were fully aware of the consequences and rewards for living in an HOA, and, they failed to live up to their obligation. So, as a result, foreclosure was an unfortunate option for the Taylor-Glenn HOA. You cannot live in an HOA and accept all the rewards without also accepting the burdens that come with it.

HOA’s are not obligated to bail families out who are “stuck” due to poor economic circumstances. As a leader of your household, you (homeowner) should have a ‘plan’ on how you will keep your home in case unfortunate circumstances come your way. And, that plan may include going to others asking for assistance. That is a plan, but not a very good one. A better plan would be to purchase a home that could be afforded on one income, and in case a parent becomes ill, another parent could step up and help. Or, one parent could work the 3rd shift while another work the 1st in order to minimize child-care expenses. There are a lot of options.

I do not want to appear ‘holier than thou’. I am relieved that the Maher’s home was saved from foreclosure. But, we have to be careful when we look at HOA’s as ‘bail-out‘ tools.

HOA’s are volunteer agencies whose only responsibility is to maintain the value of your home and quality of life. Do not empower them any more with the “Big Brother” analogy.
sikofit

Indian Trail, NC

#7 Oct 11, 2008
Big Brother analogy isn't too far off and you know it. But if the rules are clear and understood by a potential homeowner, then they bought into, so to speak.

When a member of an HOA calls you to remove a political sign and doesn't tell your neighbor to remove their sign (Dem vs. Repub), then that's a problem.

Some HOA members do let it get to their head. No all - some, & I'm not just talking about Taylor Glen.

As a concept, the HOA program is a good idea - but it can go too far.

“Vote Republican”

Since: Aug 08

Wyandanch, NY

#8 Oct 11, 2008
sikofit wrote:
Big Brother analogy isn't too far off and you know it. But if the rules are clear and understood by a potential homeowner, then they bought into, so to speak.
When a member of an HOA calls you to remove a political sign and doesn't tell your neighbor to remove their sign (Dem vs. Repub), then that's a problem.
Some HOA members do let it get to their head. No all - some, & I'm not just talking about Taylor Glen.
As a concept, the HOA program is a good idea - but it can go too far.
“…and I know it”? That is just my point. I do not know it…. If you are telling me that HOA’s do not always pass out decisions evenly or with equity, then I have to agree. And, when that happens, you should address that issue. All people should be expected to behave and participate in an HOA. And, all members of the HOA should expect the same treatment, unless they have not paid their dues.
sikofit

Indian Trail, NC

#9 Oct 12, 2008
We are in agreement to a point.

Hypothetically: if there is a family within the HOA that experiences devastating illnesses, loss of income,(these are random examples only), is there typically something within the HOA structure that temporarily helps families?
Are other payment plans for the dues offered or worked out until the crisis is more manageable?

“Vote Republican”

Since: Aug 08

Wyandanch, NY

#10 Oct 12, 2008
That is an excellent question. As a former board member of an HOA, my guess is no. But, if a friend of mine in any community is in trouble, I will step up and help. I helped pay some bills for one friend who lost his job. My wife took someone’s three children who was on trial in another state for two weeks. So,‘families’ step up, no matter where or who you are.

But, my feelings are that there is no place for an HOA to take ‘official’ action to help a family. Obviously, payment arrangements are not uncommon. We have one case that I know of in my HOA. However, from what I understand, this family was given an opportunity to catch up for 30 months or so. But, once the foreclosure ball began to roll, there was nothing the HOA could or should do.

Ultimately, I am pleased that it turned out well for the Maher’s family.
New York

United States

#11 Oct 29, 2008
Since, I live in Taylor Glenn, for the past 1 1/2 years, I think that they are dead-beats!! They use all the community Things,(pool, soccer field and park. etc), without paying there HOA dues. they knew what they where doing, but still used the facilitys. with no respect. There back-yard is a pig-sty. And what will happen with them in 6 months or longer? since they where not able to pay there bills for the past 3 years or so??
They cannot afford to live here! so they should move out!

“Vote Republican”

Since: Aug 08

Wyandanch, NY

#12 Oct 29, 2008
New York wrote:
Since, I live in Taylor Glenn, for the past 1 1/2 years, I think that they are dead-beats!! They use all the community Things,(pool, soccer field and park. etc), without paying there HOA dues. they knew what they where doing, but still used the facilitys. with no respect. There back-yard is a pig-sty. And what will happen with them in 6 months or longer? since they where not able to pay there bills for the past 3 years or so??
They cannot afford to live here! so they should move out!
Agreed, they are clearly in over their financial heads. I feel bad for the kids, but the parents no longer have my sympathy. They should do what a financially responsible family would do; down size to something they can afford.
Slatter mang sucks

AOL

#13 Jun 3, 2009
I live in Windermere in Burlington, and the dmn place looks like a run down trailer park!!!!!!!! and they want money money money and cut cut cut on services!!!!!!!!!!Slatter management sucks!!!!!!!!!! and Pierce homes left a damn mess here...
Slatter mang sucks

AOL

#14 Dec 14, 2009
Beware of Windermere in Burlington nc-----and Slatter Management. Do not waste your money on poor construction and bad Management company!!!!!!

Since: Oct 15

Indian Trail, NC

#15 Oct 26, 2015
I'm embarrassed about the Response to the maherr of family in this is letter than anything. This person is extremely cold Individual. This family clearly had unforeseen circumstances. It's clear The only poor decision that they made is moving into this community Of Taylor Glenn. This family should immediately file a bankruptcy petition Stay This foreclosure. I have a home that is fully paid for in this community. And speaking for myself The only poor decision I made is to move here And invest My hard earned money Into this development. 42 way to be able to sell your home for past due fees of $500 is shameful. Foreclosure action is an option And only that an option.

Since: Oct 15

Indian Trail, NC

#16 Oct 26, 2015
sikofit wrote:
We are in agreement to a point.
Hypothetically: if there is a family within the HOA that experiences devastating illnesses, loss of income,(these are random examples only), is there typically something within the HOA structure that temporarily helps families?
Are other payment plans for the dues offered or worked out until the crisis is more manageable?
No payment plans are offered. Only attorneys fees who make more than the dUES that is due. Even if you catch up when the foreclosure action the following year they will put you back into the attorneys again for two years in a row you can be getting the extra fees for attorneys.

“Vote Republican”

Since: Aug 08

Wyandanch, NY

#17 Oct 30, 2015
shameful Taylor Glenn wrote:
I'm embarrassed about the Response to the maherr of family in this is letter than anything. This person is extremely cold Individual. This family clearly had unforeseen circumstances. It's clear The only poor decision that they made is moving into this community Of Taylor Glenn. This family should immediately file a bankruptcy petition Stay This foreclosure. I have a home that is fully paid for in this community. And speaking for myself The only poor decision I made is to move here And invest My hard earned money Into this development. 42 way to be able to sell your home for past due fees of $500 is shameful. Foreclosure action is an option And only that an option.
closure is a legal requirement if your CC&Rs say you must do it. It is not an option.

Since: Oct 15

Indian Trail, NC

#18 Oct 31, 2015
sikofit wrote:
Good job by Home Depot. HOA's have turned into "Big Brothers", but unfortunately this family probably knew all the by-laws and restrictions when they purchased the home. Does HOA have a backup plan for families that are struck by the failing economy or do they simply kick them out?
No we do not need the bylaws when we go to clothing to buy a home in Taylor Glenn. As for the cold response Of I hate Syracuse That seems to be a normal attitude of the HOA committee. It would not surprise me if the person who wrote I hate Syracuse Is the English is not the English professor Professor Who was once the H away Committee head. The HOA Does not realize That Buy for closing on a person's home does not mean that they will get the money do them. In this economy most people are unable to purchase a home Without a loan. Which means that most people in the following more money than their home is worth. The HOA does not work with there Community That is true They can foreclose on a home that is fully paid for As they did with me Well least they try their hardest To. Good luck.!!! Buyer beware.

Since: Oct 15

Indian Trail, NC

#19 Oct 31, 2015
I Hate Syracuse wrote:
<quoted text>closure is a legal requirement if your CC&Rs say you must do it. It is not an option.
Absolutely not true the The CC and R's State One thing but the Lord Stay another. Would you like for me to upload the document that states that foreclosure is an option of the HOA and not Mandatory.!!!.

Since: Oct 15

Indian Trail, NC

#20 Oct 31, 2015
shameful Taylor Glenn wrote:
<quoted text> Absolutely not true the The CC and R's State One thing but the Lord Stay another. Would you like for me to upload the document that states that foreclosure is an option of the HOA and not Mandatory.!!!.
At the end of the day My whole purpose is that this action does not happen to another family going through a crisis after 12 months and Taylor Glenn. At the end of the day I own the biggest home in this entire neighborhood And I'm still rich at the end of my day. But other families are not so fortunate. I hope people grow compassion and their hearts Instead of being cold and obnoxious individual looking at other people's backyards. It's a shame That you blasted that family about their backyard. That`s really messed up. I don't even know that family. The fact is that dues is due the same time as property taxes, real estate taxes and irs taxes and high heating.bills. enough stress is put on regular families nobody makes a.home purchase to freeload I pray that anyone being this way toward others don t experience health problems or bad relationships during their process. Or, you will face Your home fully paid for being.sold for 2200.00 by the hoa of
Taylor Glenn.
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