Armed Robber Walks Away Absolutely In...
Year Of Snake

United States

#62 Feb 8, 2013
in law enforcement wrote:
<quoted text>This is so NOT correct. Over 100miles? So what!! What does that mean?? It is totally a IPD issue. Jurisdiction?? IPD only had to let the local PD know of where they were at(I'm sure they would of explained why as well) incase something happened and so they would at least have an idea of what was going on while responding to the hopspital.
Do you remember that guy that killed those kids in Coffeville across from Elmores years ago??? Coffeyville PD and more so the MGSO sent officers to KC to watch over him at a weeks time and rotated out. Then when he was in OSO, they did the same. It wasn't those other's departments problem, it was a local problem.
There is NO agency that is going to REFUSE for you to come get a prisoner, that you are seeking. The local agency would put a 'hold' on that person while he is in jail and after that other agency gets done with him on their charges(if there is any) then they will call for you to come and get them. Its actually pretty simple process. However, what the hospital did was not wrong. They did what they are spose to.
Wrong, Independence pollice can not act independently in another jurisdiction. That only works at the federal level. Independence may act within a jurisdiction with the permission of those authorities but not independently. Even then the federal officials would let the local authorities know where and what they were doing. No, an outside jurisdiction won't refuse Independence from coming to get a prisoner but they had better notify the presiding jurisdiction first and the paperwork had better be filed correctly. If there was no such thing as jurisdiction we would have what amounted to as a national police force. The only enforcement agency with national jurisdiction is the feds. Sorry, but Independence isn't quite as big as the FBI, BATF or U.S. Marshall. Again, feds. What happended to the guy getting out of the hospital was just plain careless but again it is not the business of Independence to try and work independently of any other jurisdiction. Otherwise, they would get ran out of said jurisdiction on the point of their tin star.
shoulda finished the job

Jefferson City, MO

#63 Feb 8, 2013
choot'em
Real

Independence, KS

#64 Feb 8, 2013
local wrote:
<quoted text>
Ultimately I believe it's the police chief's responsibility to be aware of and coordinate the the entire process. What happened?
It may have been "the police chief's responsiblity to be aware and coordinate the the (sic) entire process" but a supervisor ALWAYS bears some of the responsibility of the actions of those he supervises. Cowan should have at least been checking in on the status of things. Of all the people in charge SOMEONE should have had enough intelligence to figure out that felon needed to be under guard at all times. I wonder why that didn't happen?
local

Rogers, AR

#65 Feb 8, 2013
Real wrote:
<quoted text>
It may have been "the police chief's responsiblity to be aware and coordinate the the (sic) entire process" but a supervisor ALWAYS bears some of the responsibility of the actions of those he supervises. Cowan should have at least been checking in on the status of things. Of all the people in charge SOMEONE should have had enough intelligence to figure out that felon needed to be under guard at all times. I wonder why that didn't happen?
I agree - if Cowan is Chief Smith's supervisor. So the question is - who dropped the ball ?
headlock

Independence, KS

#66 Feb 8, 2013
He seems to be already convicted around here!This case "screams" CHANGE OF VENUE!!!!!
in law enforcement

Ochelata, OK

#67 Feb 9, 2013
Year Of Snake wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong, Independence pollice can not act independently in another jurisdiction. That only works at the federal level. Independence may act within a jurisdiction with the permission of those authorities but not independently. Even then the federal officials would let the local authorities know where and what they were doing. No, an outside jurisdiction won't refuse Independence from coming to get a prisoner but they had better notify the presiding jurisdiction first and the paperwork had better be filed correctly. If there was no such thing as jurisdiction we would have what amounted to as a national police force. The only enforcement agency with national jurisdiction is the feds. Sorry, but Independence isn't quite as big as the FBI, BATF or U.S. Marshall. Again, feds. What happended to the guy getting out of the hospital was just plain careless but again it is not the business of Independence to try and work independently of any other jurisdiction. Otherwise, they would get ran out of said jurisdiction on the point of their tin star.
Correct. I'm glad you agree with what I said. Beside I didn't say anything about the Feds, but generally speaking, this is what I said in my earlier post.
I didn't say that IPD went somewhere with thier ball hanging saying that "Hey we are hear and there isn't anything you can do about it, because that is OUR prisoner." I said that they would advise the local authority of their where about and explination as to why, and I'm 115% sure that ANY agency would say, "Ok."
It isn't no difference that the MGSO calling one of the city PDs and asking them to go out and check or 'handle' a call that is in the county. At that point the city officer is 'acting' under the deputy's authority, until suck deputy can get there and take over. Pretty simple process.
in law enforcement

Ochelata, OK

#68 Feb 9, 2013
**such deputy (sorry MGSO, no disrespect)
Now What

Parsons, KS

#69 Feb 9, 2013
headlock wrote:
He seems to be already convicted around here!This case "screams" CHANGE OF VENUE!!!!!
They have the whole robbery on video.
Ride or die

Coffeyville, KS

#70 Feb 9, 2013
Did u really just take that to a whole other level dipshit...inside type help? Too many movies there cuZ wat it is is he is a smooth criminal seen an ultimatum of tryin to burn out before goin to jail and logically took it and the police once again r the dipshits for their own stupidity, this bro ain't a rookie he is like the next Norman hiner lol so po poz will have to catch em when they can cuz he took out on their asses and ran
Ride or die

Coffeyville, KS

#71 Feb 9, 2013
And my comment was in reply to the first page of posts to whoever for real is, just FYI
sillygirl

Independence, KS

#72 Feb 9, 2013
be quiet jade
wtf

Lebo, KS

#73 Feb 9, 2013
Ride or die wrote:
Did u really just take that to a whole other level dipshit...inside type help? Too many movies there cuZ wat it is is he is a smooth criminal seen an ultimatum of tryin to burn out before goin to jail and logically took it and the police once again r the dipshits for their own stupidity, this bro ain't a rookie he is like the next Norman hiner lol so po poz will have to catch em when they can cuz he took out on their asses and ran
maybe next time someone will make him dead
Real

Independence, KS

#74 Feb 9, 2013
local wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree - if Cowan is Chief Smith's supervisor. So the question is - who dropped the ball ?
Cowan is over the police, fire, and EMS but also is Webb's puppet. If Webb is going to have a puppet he needs to have one that doesn't make him look like an incompetent fool. If we pay these idiots earnings we should be able to find out how this happened so we can make d*mn well sure it never happens again. It's so ridiculous I still can't wrap my head around it.
traci

United States

#75 Feb 11, 2013
I saw Adam at the pharmacy on Rock Road. He had on a hoodie and was with a big white woman who had on sweats. They bought all kinds of rubbing alcohol and surgical wrap a mountain dew a grape blunt paper, milk Orange juice and a couple frozen pizza and OSI with a vision card and change and wadded up dollar bills. I used to go to school with him and his brother josh. Always in trouble. I didn't know he was a run away til I read this forum. I hope they catch him cause its my hood. Get the hello out of independence. People never change there.
Idiots

Independence, KS

#76 Feb 11, 2013
City lets all its prisoners go.Since they don't have to pay to keep prisoners they can use the money to buy up all the empty buildings so they can rent them out or let them sit empty or fix them up with all the money you send them.You people need to think big like the village idiots in charge of this place.
Simon Says

United States

#77 Feb 11, 2013
Wonder how long it took them to figure out he was gone? Going forward how about putting ankle bracelets on the "arrested individuals" to track them? Or better yet....track them with an implanted chip like my dog.
local

Rogers, AR

#78 Feb 11, 2013
Simon Says wrote:
Wonder how long it took them to figure out he was gone? Going forward how about putting ankle bracelets on the "arrested individuals" to track them? Or better yet....track them with an implanted chip like my dog.
Gee, I wonder - since they obviously don't keep track of the people they arrest. Good job Smith & Cowan
confused

Independence, KS

#79 Feb 11, 2013
Why would some people think this is the hospitals fault? Would our police officers be responsible for one of the hospitals patients just because the hospital decided to drop the patient at the police department to stay for a few weeks?
OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS

Independence, KS

#81 Feb 12, 2013
who cares if he died or not 1 less on welfare. such a thug i wouldnt want him in my neighborhood WOULD YOU ???
right to defend your life

Jefferson City, MO

#82 Feb 12, 2013
OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS wrote:
who cares if he died or not 1 less on welfare. such a thug i wouldnt want him in my neighborhood WOULD YOU ???
"hydro shock" hollow points and he wouldn't have walked anymore or robbed anymore.... or anymore anything ! Some choices have sour endings.

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