ticket for car window tint to dark UGH

ticket for car window tint to dark UGH

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freaking in the street

Coffeyville, KS

#1 Mar 27, 2013
got a ticket for My car windows tint to dark? im not sure does that go for official law enforcement car windows also? dam their windows are blacked the fk out.are they governed by a seperate set of laws and policies? anybody know of these laws?
Observer

United States

#2 Mar 27, 2013
That is a good question to respectfully ask the judge when your ticket comes up. I have wondered about things like this myself. I have seen reports where the authorities will turn on lights and go down the road only because they wanted to get somewhere quicker. It does seem like we are seeing a separate set of laws, one for us and one for them.
Hmmmm

United States

#3 Mar 27, 2013
Who tinted your windows?
Not From Here

Independence, KS

#4 Mar 27, 2013
I moved here a few years ago from New York State. I couldn't believe how dark windows are allowed to be here. It does make some sense due to the heat. But, think about how you would identify someone in a car that had committed a crime or caused an accident if you can't even see them.
maybe

Green Ridge, MO

#5 Mar 28, 2013
Not From Here wrote:
I moved here a few years ago from New York State. I couldn't believe how dark windows are allowed to be here. It does make some sense due to the heat. But, think about how you would identify someone in a car that had committed a crime or caused an accident if you can't even see them.
rule of thumb, hold your drivers license on opposite side of tint . if you can read it it's legal
Observer

Seattle, WA

#6 Mar 28, 2013
maybe wrote:
<quoted text>rule of thumb, hold your drivers license on opposite side of tint . if you can read it it's legal
WRONG!
Voter

Wichita, KS

#7 Mar 28, 2013
Window Tinting 101

Too much tinting can obscure sight and cause an accident.

The darkness of the window tint is measured by the visible light transmission percentage (VLT%). Here, it refers to the percent of light visible on the inside of the car window after the light passes through the window and tint film. The lower the percentage of VLT, the darker the tint is on the window. All tint sold has a VLT rating that falls within one of three categories--light at 50 percent VLT, medium at 35 percent VLT or dark at 20 percent VLT. Kansas law regulates the tint separately on the front side windows, back side windows, windshield and rear window.
Voter

Wichita, KS

#8 Mar 28, 2013
Kansas Window Tint Law

Kansas Tint Law Enacted: 1987




HOW DARK CAN WINDOW TINT BE IN KANSAS?
Darkness of tint is measured by Visible Light Transmission percentage (VLT%). In Kansas, this percentage refers to percentage of visible light allowed in through the combination of film and the window.
Windshield Non-reflective tint is allowed along the top of the windshield above the manufacturer's AS-1 line.
Front Side Windows Must allow more than 35% of light in.
Back Side Windows Must allow more than 35% of light in.
Rear Window Must allow more than 35% of light in.



HOW REFLECTIVE CAN THE TINT BE IN KANSAS?
Similar to sunglass lenses, some tinting film contain metallic elements that help in reflecting incoming light and reducing the glare and heat generated by visible light.

Front Side Windows No metallic or mirrored appearance.
Back Side Windows No metallic or mirrored appearance.



OTHER KANSAS RULES AND REGULATIONS
Restricted Colors The tint color(s) of RED are not legal by state law.
Side Mirrors Dual side mirrors are required if back window is tinted.
Certificate Requirements Manufacturers of film do NOT need to certify the film they sell in the state.
Sticker Requirements State law recommends but does not require stickers to identify legal tinting.
Medical Exemption
news flash

Coffeyville, KS

#9 Mar 28, 2013
We got a ticket for that years ago even after the vehicle had passed inspection after it was bought from OK and we had drove it for several years, even right in front of local police and Hwy patrol all the time. Must have been a quota ticket or a really bored one.
Lawdog

Wann, OK

#10 Mar 28, 2013
The rules on tinting has changed recently. Basically it is easier to read the statue.

NO WHERE on your car can you have a tint reading of LESS THAN 35%(35% is the limit) Now, we will give you a couple for instrument error. Nothing can be below the AS-1 Line at the top of your winshield.

It doesn't matter where you bought/received the vehicle, you are a KS resident so the rules apply.

When vehicles are inspected from coming out of another state, regular straight titles can be inspected by your local Sheriff's office and PDs at the cost of $20. It there is any other type of title (rebuilt, salvage non-highway, etc) then these muse be inspected by KHP at the cost of $25 and a lable(required) is applied to your vehicle. So when you get your inspection, I'm hoping that you were advised of the tint being to dark and was told that you would need to get the changed ASAP and made you aware of KS law. If later on, you were stopped and it still is on the vehicle, then I would say that your good for a citation.

The issue of seeing police vehicles with much darker tint was raised when they were looking at revising the tint law. Yes, law enforcement didn't feel that it was fair for them to have draker tint, as the public had made comment/complaint about it. When the law was revised, the section was added to exempt MARKED law enforcement vehicles from the tint law. This is why you see them (MGSO) having darker tint on the vehicles.

So agencies enforce different laws at what they are most to have. So the PD will enforce MORE of the issues that they are a custom to, The Sherrif's office the same, and KHP the same, but they deal mostly with traffic issues(pretty much ANYTHING dealing with vehicle/ highway/road/street safety) issues. So basically yes, you will pass a PD/SO officer/deputy and they may not care or know the law on window tint, and then here comes a KHP unit and this is somthing they deal with it all the time and you may get stopped and cited for it.

As much as people want to poke fun and use the "quota" issue as an excuse, that it fine. Having a quota is illegal, and this can not be done.

Another issue is, if the window tint CAME FROM THE MANUFACTURE, then this tint is ok to be on the vehicle(and it will be stamped into the tint on the window) ANY AFTER MARKET TINT is illegal if it is UNDER 35%. Also keep in mind that your glass is already tinted around 72%-74%. So if you go buy 35% tint thinking that you are OK, because that is the legal tint limit, you will be in trouble again. Putting the new tint that you bought at 35% on the 72%-74% tint that this already in your glass on your vehicle will throw your tint level into the mid 20% tint, again, getting you into trouble.

If you go have your windows tinted, make sure you advise the person applying the tint that you want you tint reading at no lower than 35% when you leave. Different states have different laws on the tint, so becareful.

So, yes your car looks pretty cool having the windows tinted, and you seem to think it helps cool off the vehicle in the summer and save your car seats from the sunlight, but the law is inplace for officer safety.
Law enforcement is JUST a job. WE have families and the ulimate goal is to go home to them, just as you plan to each night.

I hope I have explained this enough and didn't get you confused.

Have a safe day.

news flash

Coffeyville, KS

#11 Mar 28, 2013
Thank you for the info. We actually removed the tint the previous owner had on it and they threw out the ticket. It just pissed us off that we paid to have the inspection and nothing was said about the tint and we drove the vehicle around here for years with no problems. And the quota comment is how we felt about it since it was something that was ok for years, passed a paid for inspection, and if it was a new law change then we should have been given a warning and a chance to change it to become compliant with the "new" law.
marone

United States

#12 Mar 28, 2013
End of month. Cops need their quota of tickets. Watch out. Forgin iceholes that they are
Kansas

Coffeyville, KS

#13 Mar 28, 2013
Not From Here wrote:
I moved here a few years ago from New York State. I couldn't believe how dark windows are allowed to be here. It does make some sense due to the heat. But, think about how you would identify someone in a car that had committed a crime or caused an accident if you can't even see them.
Move back to New York if you don't like our laws.
Ur not Kansas

United States

#14 Mar 28, 2013
Kansas wrote:
<quoted text> Move back to New York if you don't like our laws.
They didn't say they didn't like our laws you ass!!!!
They were merely pointing out an observation- an opinion. Learn to understand what you're reading. Real Kansans aren't hateful a$$es!!!! Welcome to Kansas, New Yorker nice to meet you!!
FF Charles

United States

#15 Mar 28, 2013
Lawdog wrote:
The rules on tinting has changed recently. Basically it is easier to read the statue.
NO WHERE on your car can you have a tint reading of LESS THAN 35%(35% is the limit) Now, we will give you a couple for instrument error. Nothing can be below the AS-1 Line at the top of your winshield.
It doesn't matter where you bought/received the vehicle, you are a KS resident so the rules apply.
You seem to be quite knowledgeable on the subject so maybe you can answer a few questions.
You said they were a Kansas resident so the rules apply. What happens if they're not a Kansas resident?

Let's say they're driving through Kansas from another state and get pulled over for the tint. What most likely happens then? Would a ticket be legal? Could an out of stater argue the fact they were just passing through and the law doesn't pertain to their vehicle because it's not registered in Kansas?
These questions are based on the idea that tint darker than 35 is allowed in other states.
I'm just curious. There was something in the news about an out of stater fighting another states law. They were ticketed for being illegal, while passing through another state. However in their own home state, they were legal.

Observer

United States

#16 Mar 28, 2013
Question, why should "marked" law enforcement vehichles have tinting darker than the public? I see no need for darker tinting and law enforcement having one set of rules and the general public another. In my opinion only, it makes the authorities look "above the law." Frankly, something that may seem rather minor like tinting also builds a resentment by the general public of law enforcement. Again, just an opinion.
Former Kansan

Hulbert, OK

#17 Mar 28, 2013
Ur not Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>
They didn't say they didn't like our laws you ass!!!!
They were merely pointing out an observation- an opinion. Learn to understand what you're reading. Real Kansans aren't hateful a$$es!!!! Welcome to Kansas, New Yorker nice to meet you!!
Up yours too New Yorker! I can tell your not a true Kansan.
Lawdog

Wann, OK

#18 Mar 29, 2013
FF Charles wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem to be quite knowledgeable on the subject so maybe you can answer a few questions.
You said they were a Kansas resident so the rules apply. What happens if they're not a Kansas resident?
Let's say they're driving through Kansas from another state and get pulled over for the tint. What most likely happens then? Would a ticket be legal? Could an out of stater argue the fact they were just passing through and the law doesn't pertain to their vehicle because it's not registered in Kansas?
These questions are based on the idea that tint darker than 35 is allowed in other states.
I'm just curious. There was something in the news about an out of stater fighting another states law. They were ticketed for being illegal, while passing through another state. However in their own home state, they were legal.
I will try to explain this as easy as I can, so bear with me. Also keep in mind this is basically for traffic offences, NOT criminal offenses.
The States are in what is called a Compact, which in layman terms would be a buddy system. The States will and should honor the other States laws. The reasonong...there is no way that anyone can know and obey the laws of all the States.
The way it works is this.. if you are legal in your home domicile, then you would be concidered legal in the other State.
Example#1 In Missouri, a truck that is registred for 16k or more, requires the registration plates affix to the FRONT of the truck. In Kansas, ALL registration plates are required to be affixed to the REAR of the vehicle, EXCEPT for truck tractors.
.......So if this Missouri truck was pulled over, they can not be issued a citation for improper display of the tag, because they are leagl in the their home State. So they would then be legal here in Kansas because we would and should recognize that they are compliant to Missouri laws, therefore honoring the Compact.
Example #2 In Oklahoma, depending on the year of the vehicle, they can have lower than 35% window tint.
.......So if the Oklahoma vehicle was stopped for speeding and its noticed that the window tint was darker than 35%. They would be dealt with appropriately for the speeding offense, but nothing can be done on the window tint issue, because, depending on the year of the vehicle, they would be legal in Oklahoma. So again, they would be considered legal here in Kansas, therefore honoring the Compact.
Example #3 Kansas has a IP(instructor License) for those 14yoa, or a Farm permit, Oklahoma doesn't. Oklahome doesn't issue DLs until your 16yoa.
.........So if someone who is driving on a Farm Permit or IP, and are following their restriction on thier license and is stopped in Oklahoma, they would and should honor Kansas drivers at that age because they are legal in Kansas (their home state) and they are following thier restrictions. Even though Oklahoma doesn't issue DLs to that age, again honorng the Compact.
The other issue behind this is, most PDs and SOs don't know or understand the Compact. For the most part HPs do. If someone should get stop and are being issued a ciation and they would be considered leagal in the their home State, then they can try to either NICELY try to explain and ask them if they know about the States Compact. If it looks like its not helping you any, just simple takje the citation and then contact the prper city/county attorney and talk to them about it. It should be dismissed.
DISCLAIMER: This is dealing with basically TRAFFIC OFFENSES NOT CRIMINAL OFFENSES.
Also there are about six(6) states that DO NOT participate in this Compact. They are not near Kansas.

CONTINUED**
Lawdog

Wann, OK

#19 Mar 29, 2013
CONTINUED**

Also, this is how someone can lose their license from getting a ticket in another state and not paying for it because they are not from there. This works simple like this.... John Doe gets a ticket in Texas for speeding. JD thinks that since he lives in Kansas that he isn't coming back down to Texas so he isn't worried about it. JD misses court, cause he doesn't care about Texas. Court send s a notice to Texas, for failing to appear on the citation. Texas then sends a notice to Kansas (Topeka) stating that JD skipped court and asks to suspend his Dl. So now, JD is suspended for failing to comply to a citation.
Anyways that is how that works. I hope I didn't loose ya
Lawdog

Wann, OK

#20 Mar 29, 2013
Sorry my first part didn't send I'll have to retype the response.

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