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City manager getting involved in political process

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wondering

Independence, KS

#1 Mar 8, 2013
Does anyone know if it is against the law for a city manager to recruit commission candidates and do other things to get the candidates he wants elected?I'm not saying anyone is doing this.It doesn't sound right to me but I was wondering what the law said about it.

Since: Oct 10

Independence, Kansas

#2 Mar 8, 2013
The city manager, ACTING AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, should be able to recruit or campaign for anyone he wants. This would mean that he isn't doing these actions on city property or on the city dime or time. That would mean that while doing these things, he isn't on the job and he isn't using the name of his office to influence peoples votes.

Kind of a fine line, but as a resident of Independence he has certain rights and obligations just like the rest of us.

I don't like what Micky has done for this town and I don't like the commissioners who hired him and tolerate his behavior, but the man does have certain things that are his to do as a private citizen.
wondering

Independence, KS

#3 Mar 8, 2013
Indy_Dick wrote:
The city manager, ACTING AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, should be able to recruit or campaign for anyone he wants. This would mean that he isn't doing these actions on city property or on the city dime or time. That would mean that while doing these things, he isn't on the job and he isn't using the name of his office to influence peoples votes.
Kind of a fine line, but as a resident of Independence he has certain rights and obligations just like the rest of us.
I don't like what Micky has done for this town and I don't like the commissioners who hired him and tolerate his behavior, but the man does have certain things that are his to do as a private citizen.
I agree he should be able to do what he wants on his own time, but is it LEGAL for him to get involved? There are some jobs that limit what its employees do politically even if they do it when they're not on the job.

Since: Oct 10

Independence, Kansas

#4 Mar 8, 2013
wondering wrote:
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I agree he should be able to do what he wants on his own time, but is it LEGAL for him to get involved? There are some jobs that limit what its employees do politically even if they do it when they're not on the job.
What jobs would those be? Give me an example or two...
wondering

Independence, KS

#5 Mar 8, 2013
My cousin sold something to do with cows, pigs, sheep etc. on some kind of market. A friend he grew up with was going to run for office so he wanted to give him some money for his campaign and be in his commercials, but the laws of that market kept him from doing much. I think jobs like high-up judges could also keep them from doing some things most other people could do but I don't know.
reality check

Rogers, AR

#6 Mar 8, 2013
wondering wrote:
Does anyone know if it is against the law for a city manager to recruit commission candidates and do other things to get the candidates he wants elected?I'm not saying anyone is doing this.It doesn't sound right to me but I was wondering what the law said about it.
Given the city manager's history and reputation, I wouldn't be surprised. He has a lot to lose without the support of the his "three wise men".
viewer

Ingleside, TX

#7 Mar 8, 2013
reality check wrote:
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Given the city manager's history and reputation, I wouldn't be surprised. He has a lot to lose without the support of the his "three wise men".
Three wise men named Larry, Curly and Moe ... er, no ... I meant Darrell, Rick and Tim ...
wondering

Independence, KS

#8 Mar 8, 2013
Someone said I could ask the secretary of state in Topeka.Is that right?Is there someone here I could ask?Maybe the county clerk since they count the votes?

Since: Oct 10

Independence, Kansas

#9 Mar 8, 2013
wondering wrote:
Someone said I could ask the secretary of state in Topeka.Is that right?Is there someone here I could ask?Maybe the county clerk since they count the votes?
The Kansas Election statutes are located at this link:

http://www.kslegislature.org/li_2012/b2011_12...

I did a quick search of some of the sections of the law, but didn't come up with anything specifically covering your concerns. That doen't mean it doesn't exist, it just means I didn't find anything pertient to the question...

Hope this helps...
wondering

Independence, KS

#10 Mar 8, 2013
Indy_Dick wrote:
<quoted text>The Kansas Election statutes are located at this link:
http://www.kslegislature.org/li_2012/b2011_12...
I did a quick search of some of the sections of the law, but didn't come up with anything specifically covering your concerns. That doen't mean it doesn't exist, it just means I didn't find anything pertient to the question...
Hope this helps...
I will study the link you sent.Thank you for your good help because I didn't know where to go.

Since: Oct 10

Independence, Kansas

#11 Mar 8, 2013
wondering wrote:
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I will study the link you sent.Thank you for your good help because I didn't know where to go.
No problem. A lot of questions about law can be answered by looking up the state statute. It sometimes takes some patience to cut through the legalese, but it can at least give you some sense of what is right and wrong according to state law.

The basic link is:

http://www.kslegislature.org/li_2012/b2011_12...

good luck...
City Handbook

Ingleside, TX

#12 Mar 8, 2013
The employee handbook for city employees prohibits employees from supporting candidates for anycity office openly no matter on or off the Job. No bumper stickers, no lawn signs at their homes.

Since: Oct 10

Independence, Kansas

#13 Mar 8, 2013
City Handbook wrote:
The employee handbook for city employees prohibits employees from supporting candidates for anycity office openly no matter on or off the Job. No bumper stickers, no lawn signs at their homes.
That is interesting...not sure the part about no bumper stickers or yard signs would pass a 1st amendment test in court...
Reply

Independence, KS

#14 Mar 8, 2013
City Handbook wrote:
The employee handbook for city employees prohibits employees from supporting candidates for anycity office openly no matter on or off the Job. No bumper stickers, no lawn signs at their homes.
How about recruiting people to run for the commission?

Since: Oct 10

Independence, Kansas

#15 Mar 8, 2013
Reply wrote:
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How about recruiting people to run for the commission?
Probably hard to prove, but right now that person would have to run one hell of a write-in campaign to win this coming election.
Reply

Independence, KS

#16 Mar 8, 2013
Unless there's someone else still in the race.
puuuuu

Independence, KS

#17 Mar 10, 2013
This doesn't pass the smell test. If were paying a city manager to do a job he should do that job and leave who gets on the commission to us.Guess this person is afraid of of what might happen in the election.
local

Rogers, AR

#18 Mar 10, 2013
puuuuu wrote:
This doesn't pass the smell test. If were paying a city manager to do a job he should do that job and leave who gets on the commission to us.Guess this person is afraid of of what might happen in the election.
Webb has much to lose with the implementation of new commissioners. Hope he didn't cover all his bases and all of us have a "homerun".
Reply

Independence, KS

#19 Mar 10, 2013
local wrote:
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Webb has much to lose with the implementation of new commissioners. Hope he didn't cover all his bases and all of us have a "homerun".
We should have a home run if on election day we did what we did for the primary. Show up and vote.
whatever_28

Independence, KS

#20 Mar 10, 2013
Remember this to get in office somebody paid for your way to get there and promises to them. For the idiots who paid you to the dumb ass on the street who does not no any better. We could get the local owners of successful businesses here in town they would win period. Oh ya they did already.

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