High School Principal
Student

Kirksville, MO

#21 Feb 5, 2013
As a student of IHS, I can confirm that it is incredibly rare to see his child at school. Yes, you heard correctly: this has been blown out of proportion.

I am certainly no fan of the administration, but the kid is hardly ever there. Go be inactive and ineffective about something else.
Year Of Snake

Seattle, WA

#22 Feb 6, 2013
Student wrote:
As a student of IHS, I can confirm that it is incredibly rare to see his child at school. Yes, you heard correctly: this has been blown out of proportion.
I am certainly no fan of the administration, but the kid is hardly ever there. Go be inactive and ineffective about something else.
The question was asked and remains as to what the liability of having a child which has not attained school age would be if it was to be hurt on public school property. In other words, a liability to the school district and city. This should be reported to the cities insurance company for a determination.

Since: Oct 10

Independence, Kansas

#23 Feb 6, 2013
Year Of Snake wrote:
<quoted text>
The question was asked and remains as to what the liability of having a child which has not attained school age would be if it was to be hurt on public school property. In other words, a liability to the school district and city. This should be reported to the cities insurance company for a determination.
Although the question of legal liabilities still remain in my mind, I feel that the issue of the principal doing his job without worrying about the immediate welfare of his child is also of great import...specifically the emergencies he is charged with handling. I would like to point out that the cities insurance has no bearing in this.

The school district and the city are two completely different legal entities and the school districts finances have little to do with the cities finances.
methusula

Wichita, KS

#24 Feb 6, 2013
Student wrote:
As a student of IHS, I can confirm that it is incredibly rare to see his child at school. Yes, you heard correctly: this has been blown out of proportion.
I am certainly no fan of the administration, but the kid is hardly ever there. Go be inactive and ineffective about something else.
Obviously much less weight was given to your observation than that of the father's reporting through his son about this. That pretty much tells you about the denominator that we get, generally, on these threads. Sometimes it is incredible to see how much more mature (at least ethically) our teenager's are compared to some of these (presumably) adults who have nothing better to do than to anonymously bash people by name or title. And I will also laud you for looking past your bias and thinking clearly on this issue.
old school

Wichita, KS

#25 Feb 6, 2013
Really wrote:
Indy dick, do you have any children in the high school? And yes sir I realize times have changed, but so have families, and the way to prevent issues at school begins in the home. Children these days are brats and they have no work ethic at all, with exception of some. I won't say all, that is not so. The folks who work minimum wage jobs have daycare paid or almost paid for by tax dollars as well, another one of those nice welfare benefits that seem to be becoming a part of life generation after generation. I agree with you that he should not be bringing his child to work day after day, so how about one of us call the school and ask him how many hours in a day and the days he provides daycare for his baby? If it is a problem, action should be taken by the school board. But remember this is on topix, and topix is gossip. It is funny to read, sometimes it is sad though, because I am sure some of the people who are the victims of this site are really hurt. I am just sayin, sometimes the people posting on topix have a desire to hurt the person they are posting about. Not saying this is the case by any means, all I know is there truly are a lot of things that need to be fixed in schools ranking in my book a little higher. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. And by the way, I went to school with my grandmother almost every day, when I was very young, and I was given math and writing to do just like the other kids, but yes it was a different time. Have a nice day, let me know if you ask the principal about his daycare hours.
I worked 2 jobs and my wife worked 1 and we payed for child care not the government we both had minimum wage jobs.Neither one of us took our kids to work.I think maybe he needs to just stay home and take care of his kids.It does disturb me that he is in charge of helping shape the minds of our kids and get them ready to go out in the real world but he does not live in the real world himself.
insider

United States

#26 Feb 6, 2013
independence is ran like a high school popularity contest that is part of the problem

Since: Oct 10

Independence, Kansas

#27 Feb 6, 2013
insider wrote:
independence is ran like a high school popularity contest that is part of the problem
Believe me, things haven't changed a bit since I when there about one hundred years ago.

Just deal with it, and do the best you can. It's only high school and there is a big world out there where you can excel at your own interests. A lot of the kids that were popular in high school look like losers at the 25th class reunion.
Fed up

Columbia, MO

#28 Feb 7, 2013
Is this the same principal that left his child in the car? If so...well, at least he is bringing him in out of the car these days!
Thoughts

United States

#29 Feb 8, 2013
Maybe...he was on his own time and wanted to bring his child up to see his office friends. Cut the guy a little slack. I am sure that all of the details are not here.
bahahaha

United States

#30 Feb 8, 2013
maybe mitch shaw was breast feeding it from his big man boobs
Dont make me laugh

United States

#31 Feb 8, 2013
Are we going to beat this to death again. Big deal if he had his kid in school. Whats the problem. He is an administrator he does not need to do physical work or anything to endanger the child. Give him a break.

Since: Oct 10

Independence, Kansas

#32 Feb 8, 2013
Dont make me laugh wrote:
Are we going to beat this to death again. Big deal if he had his kid in school. Whats the problem. He is an administrator he does not need to do physical work or anything to endanger the child. Give him a break.
In an emergency, he is responsible (or should be) for certain actions depending on the emergency.

Everyone thinks it can't happen on their watch, but fire, explosion, personal injury, tornado, and a terrorist incident could occur. I wouldn't want his child in harms way while he was trying to cope with his responsibilities to students, faculty, and staff safety. Nor would I want the child to be a distraction to him while he was doing his job during an emergency.

I hope none of these emergencies ever happen, but if they do, I want the principals undivided attention brought to bear on his job.

You never know what will happen from one day to the next...in an emergency, there are no breaks given...
Unbelievable

Kansas City, MO

#33 Feb 9, 2013
Indy_Dick wrote:
<quoted text>In an emergency, he is responsible (or should be) for certain actions depending on the emergency.
Everyone thinks it can't happen on their watch, but fire, explosion, personal injury, tornado, and a terrorist incident could occur. I wouldn't want his child in harms way while he was trying to cope with his responsibilities to students, faculty, and staff safety. Nor would I want the child to be a distraction to him while he was doing his job during an emergency.
I hope none of these emergencies ever happen, but if they do, I want the principals undivided attention brought to bear on his job.
You never know what will happen from one day to the next...in an emergency, there are no breaks given...
Spot on as usual!!!
Year Of Snake

Seattle, WA

#34 Feb 9, 2013
Indy_Dick wrote:
<quoted text>In an emergency, he is responsible (or should be) for certain actions depending on the emergency.
Everyone thinks it can't happen on their watch, but fire, explosion, personal injury, tornado, and a terrorist incident could occur. I wouldn't want his child in harms way while he was trying to cope with his responsibilities to students, faculty, and staff safety. Nor would I want the child to be a distraction to him while he was doing his job during an emergency.
I hope none of these emergencies ever happen, but if they do, I want the principals undivided attention brought to bear on his job.
You never know what will happen from one day to the next...in an emergency, there are no breaks given...
100% Correct Sir!
in case

Kansas City, KS

#35 Feb 9, 2013
Dont make me laugh wrote:
Are we going to beat this to death again. Big deal if he had his kid in school. Whats the problem. He is an administrator he does not need to do physical work or anything to endanger the child. Give him a break.
If it were ok then everyone would be allowed to take their child or children to work. Many of us have had situations that come up when we don't have a sitter, sick kids and such. But most don't have the option of taking our children to work. The point here is that he always thinks he is above the rules. What if all the teachers who have children brought them to school whenever they wanted or needed. A little chaos would ensue. The liability issue is just the tip of the iceburg. He is paid to do a job. When he is babysitting his child, he is not doing his job. Since his paycheck comes from the taxpayers, I believe we have a right to question his ability to do his job. So no, I for one am not giving him a break!
Revolution Calling

Independence, KS

#36 Feb 9, 2013
Indy_Dick wrote:
Does the school district policy allow this? If something were to happen to the child, is the district liable? Does any employee of the school district get to baby sit their kid on district time? What happens in an emergency situation? In an emergency situation how does the princpal manage his responsibilities and a kid at the same time?
It is my personal opinion, that the principal gets paid enough to afford day care for the child. This will enable him to concentrate on his duties as principal, which is what he is paid for.
What the hell is wrong with the school superintendent that he allows this? Is the school board aware of this? If they are aware of this, then why haven't they done something about it? Or maybe they think it is just okay and there isn't a problem with it.
Hello???
Indy Dick, perhaps you're another Indy-idiot who's ignored everything I've said since 2010. Perhaps not. If you're not then you should know that this is the type of people we deal with here in Independence, Kansas. People who are not too smart, yet if they were held down to gun-point they wouldn't be too stupid.
Bub

United States

#37 Feb 10, 2013
Like people that pound their pud in manis class?

Since: Oct 10

Independence, Kansas

#38 Feb 10, 2013
Revolution Calling wrote:
<quoted text>Indy Dick, perhaps you're another Indy-idiot who's ignored everything I've said since 2010. Perhaps not. If you're not then you should know that this is the type of people we deal with here in Independence, Kansas. People who are not too smart, yet if they were held down to gun-point they wouldn't be too stupid.
This is a little off-topic...yes, I've read your postings on Topix...I don't ignore them...If you wrote it, I've probably read it, but don't flatter yourself...

I'm still trying to figure out where you are coming from. You run hot and cold on any given subject...posting has been infrequent as of late.

Sometimes I agree with what you say...other times I don't. I hate to disappoint you, but that is the way it is with most of the people that post on here...sometimes I agree with them, and sometimes I don't. Life is like that...deal with it...

I have seen you suggest things on here that I thought were good ideas, and in the next post it seems you don't have a clue. You seem intelligent, but inexperienced. You seem to have ideas that you want to express, but don't seem to want to listen to suggestions that other people post on here. You seem to want to ridicule others ideas.

You tend to categorize people like they were a flock of sheep...particularly those that disagree with you. In short, you remind me of myself when I was young...

I left Independence when I was eighteen and joined the service. I got out and saw the world (courtesy of the US Navy)...something I think you would both enjoy and profit from. You don't have to join the service...find yourself elsewhere. There are opportunities out there for someone with ideas and a positive attitude.

When you have seen enough of the rest of the world, come back and give Independence another look...it's not all bad.

Just sayin'...

Since: Oct 10

Independence, Kansas

#39 Feb 10, 2013
Bub wrote:
Like people that pound their pud in manis class?
Give him a break, everyone makes mistakes that they regret at some point in their lives...your time will surely come if it hasn't already...think about it.
IHS parent

Wichita, KS

#40 Feb 11, 2013
To start with: if I left my kid in a car: I would be in jail! No questions asked and my kid would be with the state! My wife who is a teacher isn't allowed to take our kids to school! He makes a hell of alot more than we do! Get a BB sitter Remember they promised us Independence would be better, bigger and people would come to Indy for jobs if we had new schools! Surely there is more BB sitters in town now. If something happened here like a school shooting I would prefer his child wasn't there so he could react to the rest of the students needs 1st; instead of instinct which every fathers should be, and that would be to protect his own kid! Not sure of how many jobs you can take your kid to work to; except that special one day a year. Mitch your time here is done, do your fellow teachers a favor and resign, they are tired of your Hitler tactics. IHS needs a principle that is caring, who can interact with students, along with having respect from students. All you have is a title "Principle" Mike took the high road, you need to do the same and move on. Good luck, I hope your family has a great life and you find happiness in life. I think your a good person but maybe you need less on your shoulders. Your oldest daughter is a daddy's dream and I wish her the best at college and beyond. She is a sweatheart!!

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