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Bill Moritz wrote:
Doris you are brave as hell behind a keyboard in the darkness with your face freakishly illuminated by the glow of your monitor. Have the courage of your convictions to step up to the microphone in a public meeting and say that you believe that Phil Amato has benefitted Peggy Allen with city funds improperly, illegally, unethically and downright wrong. You claim to possess leadership material but I say you are a bully. You are just brave as hell until called out for it. Until you show some backbone to say it in public find another topic. How about you share with us what you will do for entertainment in about 12 days. I predict you will get smoked by the voters by a minimum of 55%.
Mr. Moritz, You can't leave town soon enough! I only wish you'd take the current corrupt mayor, police chief and attorney with you! Those three, with your help, are much of the problem with this city. The one thing I will give you credit for is that with the other three, you know when they're lying by when their lips move. You don't seem to have that same problem. You just blurt it out, misguided as you are.
Letusnamenames

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We paid them because they are a developer and they might have had another place to put the dirt. There are other places that want fill dirt that they could have put it that would have paid the developer for it.

Geez, no common sense. I would expect someone running for Mayor to know this.
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Way to go Mr. Moritz. You called it like you saw it and that is commendable. I saw the one video on YouTube where she claimed to be bullied and played the gender card. All the video contained was Mr. Amato calling her out and asking for proof. It had nothing to do with her being female or being bullied. It was him asking her to prove her allegations.
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If you had common sense you would know that the dumper pays to dump.
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Nope, they don't. There are too many people needing fill dirt and why should the dumper pay to dump something that someone else wants/needs? They can make a buck for the person needing it most so they charge for it. It is a "good" just like anything else.
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Letusnamenames wrote:
Nope, they don't. There are too many people needing fill dirt and why should the dumper pay to dump something that someone else wants/needs? They can make a buck for the person needing it most so they charge for it. It is a "good" just like anything else.
Wanted: Clean fill dirt Haven't you seen those signs? It means the person wanting it doesn't pay because the person dumping needs a place to go with it. If they don't have permits to dump and they dump in the wrong place it is a class D misdemeanor.
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Wrong in the case of developers. They can and do charge.

The fact that you are basing your assumption off of a sign is pretty bad.
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#375
Mar 23, 2013
 
Bill Moritz wrote:
Doris you are brave as hell behind a keyboard in the darkness with your face freakishly illuminated by the glow of your monitor. Have the courage of your convictions to step up to the microphone in a public meeting and say that you believe that Phil Amato has benefitted Peggy Allen with city funds improperly, illegally, unethically and downright wrong. You claim to possess leadership material but I say you are a bully. You are just brave as hell until called out for it. Until you show some backbone to say it in public find another topic. How about you share with us what you will do for entertainment in about 12 days. I predict you will get smoked by the voters by a minimum of 55%.
One a horses butt, always a horses butt!
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So nobody can respond to Moritz's claims with proof to prove him false, so you attack him personally. Got it, Moritz is right.

Doris' campaign literature that I got in the mail says it all. Of all her allegations I have not yet seen the proof. Show me the financial documents proving your allegations of funds being put other places. Show me proof of everything. I've repeatedly asked for it and have never seen it or received it. At least Counts is running a clean campaign. That literature from Doris showed that she just keeps accusing and causing unneccessary upheaval. It showed where the real problem is on the council.

And don't play the personal attack card because you don't have proof. Just don't post anything if you don't have it. If you post personal attacks hen that shows that you not only don't have proof but that a campaign is suffering.
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Letusnamenames wrote:
So nobody can respond to Moritz's claims with proof to prove him false, so you attack him personally. Got it, Moritz is right.
Doris' campaign literature that I got in the mail says it all. Of all her allegations I have not yet seen the proof. Show me the financial documents proving your allegations of funds being put other places. Show me proof of everything. I've repeatedly asked for it and have never seen it or received it. At least Counts is running a clean campaign. That literature from Doris showed that she just keeps accusing and causing unneccessary upheaval. It showed where the real problem is on the council.
And don't play the personal attack card because you don't have proof. Just don't post anything if you don't have it. If you post personal attacks hen that shows that you not only don't have proof but that a campaign is suffering.
You have completely lost it. You hate Doris so much if she told you the sun was going to rise tomorrow, you would not accept the blinding light in you eyes as proof. Anyone who reads this site, and that isn't very many, can tell you and Mr. Moritz are both standing way out in left field, when the game was rained out hours ago. You two make a great team, maybe you can take his place while he's gone, you know, as the village idiot!
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Exactly, no proof. I expected that sort of response. It just further shows everyone that you have no proof so you attack to try to hide it, but everyone can see through it. Congratulations for proving my point.
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There is plenty of proof, as expected, you just keep ignoring it.
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After reading Doris Borgelts campaign litrature that came in Saturdays mail I was just amazed. With all the great businesses that have started up here in Arnold she could not find one positive thing to say. Just more of the same negative, critical,mean spirited crap!
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Help Wanted Village Idiot wrote:
There is plenty of proof, as expected, you just keep ignoring it.
No. The point is that there is no proof. There is nothing but the same old claims of corruption. They say this so often and so loudly that they even believe it. There is no corruption. It does not exist here. It is the same old rhetoric.

Notice how this group turns on themselves. Jerel Poor now has an attack ad out, as he does this week every year. He is now attacking Ron Counts because Counts, like me, would not torpedo the city to satisfy his anger. Be clear that that is why this group turned on me. I said no.

Look at the caliber of candidates that group regularly puts up to run for council. Jason Connell was a typical example. He accomplished nothing except a vote to discharge the attorney. This while he was stealing recreation services from the city to benefit his extended family. When he was confronted with it, his response was to demand the accounts for Amato, Crisler, Moss, Lang, Unrein, Edwards and me. Imagine the look on his face when his scheme was discovered and he was told to pay up or explain it to the police. He paid up and slinked out of town when his term expired.

This city is in fine shape. Where others are cutting back on services (St. Louis, St. Louis County, Crestwood), cutting employee health care (Pevely) and laying people off Arnold is building and still growing. Look around. The sales tax revenes are up 6% in 2012 over 2011. We are higher in the first part of 2013 than we were in 2012. Arnold is carrying Jefferson County by at least 40% of the county's revenue. Look around at all the construction. Do you think this would have happened under anything Doris? Of course not. Let her spew. The more she attacks me in here the less time she has to bother voters.
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Help Wanted Village Idiot wrote:
There is plenty of proof, as expected, you just keep ignoring it.
If there is proof then post it. No lawsuits, just proof of your corruption allegations. Also, list the actions you have taken to address the allegations. None has ever been taken.
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That is action wasn't taken on stuff except over a sign in log. I find it funny that it happened during a Christmas party that someone wasn't given a gift like all the other council members.
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Maybe Bill should get a divorce and get together with Lettuce, they make perfect sense to each other.
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Letusnamenames wrote:
So nobody can respond to Moritz's claims with proof to prove him false, so you attack him personally. Got it, Moritz is right.
Doris' campaign literature that I got in the mail says it all. Of all her allegations I have not yet seen the proof. Show me the financial documents proving your allegations of funds being put other places. Show me proof of everything. I've repeatedly asked for it and have never seen it or received it. At least Counts is running a clean campaign. That literature from Doris showed that she just keeps accusing and causing unneccessary upheaval. It showed where the real problem is on the council.
And don't play the personal attack card because you don't have proof. Just don't post anything if you don't have it. If you post personal attacks hen that shows that you not only don't have proof but that a campaign is suffering.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/132109714/The-City-...
Letusnamenames

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And it's an appraisal of a piece of commercial property for about an acre of land. It looks like the price of the empty acre is about on track. What's it prove?
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Help Wanted Village Idiot wrote:
Maybe Bill should get a divorce and get together with Lettuce, they make perfect sense to each other.
Maybe you should be the village idiot since all you can do is reply with comments that don't relate to the topic at all.

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