Clive Revisited

Arnold, MO

#262 Mar 17, 2013
The old white guys running things for years, want the voters of Arnold to just SIT DOWN and SHUT UP.

Voters: Accept what you're told without question.

Voters: You don't need to see what goes on at Council Meetings.

Voters: You don't need an accounting of the financials.

Voters: You don't need to know who is visiting City Hall to make backroom deals and grease palms.

Voters: Ignore your increased taxes, payoffs to former employees, double-dipping

Voters: Ignore two sets of rules
Doris Borgelt has fought to improve the information Arnold citizens have access to, she has worked for years to expose the shenanigans at City Hall and by the old white guys who want voters to SIT DOWN & SHUT UP.

Doris Borgelt treats people like they matter. She goes through life asking questions and taking a ration of flak so that VOTERS don't have to do it.

Doris treats voters like intelligent people who deserve to know where their money is going, and to know who exactly is running things, and what they are up to.

Doris doesn't tell people to sit down and shut up. To ignore what's going on. To blindly accept whatever crap they're fed.

We voters of Arnold would be wise to vote for her.

Otherwise, it's just more of the same, same, same. And those of us in Arnold will see it remain a stodgy old city that will sue itself into history.
Same spew different day

United States

#263 Mar 17, 2013
And all Doris can do is keep reposting the same crap over and over and over again in hopes that someone may actually believe it. She is taking credit for other's accomplishments since she has none of her own.
Wrong

Arnold, MO

#264 Mar 17, 2013
Same spew different day wrote:
And all Doris can do is keep reposting the same crap over and over and over again in hopes that someone may actually believe it. She is taking credit for other's accomplishments since she has none of her own.
Sounds like you are talking about Phil Amato, that is one of his specialties.
Same spew different day

United States

#265 Mar 17, 2013
It's one of Doris' specialties, too. More so than Amato and I've put up with his for years when I sat on the council with him. Doris most likely taught it to Amato.
Well Stated

Festus, MO

#266 Mar 17, 2013
Same spew different day wrote:
It's one of Doris' specialties, too. More so than Amato and I've put up with his for years when I sat on the council with him. Doris most likely taught it to Amato.
Oh, so you are just one of the ex-council people that support Doris, posting under a false name. No Transperancy Needed.
Well Stated

Festus, MO

#267 Mar 17, 2013
Same spew different day wrote:
It's one of Doris' specialties, too. More so than Amato and I've put up with his for years when I sat on the council with him. Doris most likely taught it to Amato.
Or Are you an ex council person that supports Counts???? Which Side is Darker?
Same spew different day

United States

#268 Mar 18, 2013
Well Stated wrote:
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Or Are you an ex council person that supports Counts???? Which Side is Darker?
The Doris side is definitely darker.
Same spew different day

United States

#269 Mar 18, 2013
Well Stated wrote:
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Oh, so you are just one of the ex-council people that support Doris, posting under a false name. No Transperancy Needed.
Don't want her stalking me like so many others she has done in the past.
Interesting Point

Arnold, MO

#270 Mar 18, 2013
Doris has become a household word and that's the best advertising! Plus she has so many more smarts than her opponent which happens every time she has to remind him of Roberts Rules of Order.
What is the plan

Saint Louis, MO

#271 Mar 18, 2013
She may be a lot of things but is she a leader? She has told me I'm a clown because I'm not using my real name and asking for her plan to lead our City.... Yeah that sounds like a GREAT person. I wonder why she is not calling the rest of you clowns because you aren't using your real names??

Doris may be very smart and may even be able to be a great mayor, but until she shares her plan to lead and shows she can lead, not just beat people up until they give in... I'll vote for the lesser of two evils!

If you went to the doctor and they told you that you had cancer but gave you no plan for treatment, what would you do? Would you support that doctor and carry on or would you find another doctor that had a plan for treatment?
Same spew different day

United States

#272 Mar 18, 2013
She can't even get her family to follow rules in the council session, what makes you think she knows anything about procedure like that?
Duh

Arnold, MO

#273 Mar 18, 2013
She already demonstrated her ability to lead, hence the 5-3 votes. A far cry from the 7-1 votes guaranteed by Mr. Moritz.
What is the plan

Saint Louis, MO

#274 Mar 18, 2013
So she converted people into her favor.... What did she accomplish with that?
What is the plan

Saint Louis, MO

#275 Mar 18, 2013
What good for the City of Arnold has she done with that? Please provide me with what actions she has taken to lead our City with votes in her favor?

You can't just run around yelling the sky is falling and expect everyone else to run with you... How will she repair the black eyes that Arnold has?

I'm not wanting to debate how we got them I just want to know how she will fix them.... Simply getting rid of a person or persons won't resolve the issue.

For the love of GOD please give me something I can hang my hat on!
Look Here

Arnold, MO

#276 Mar 18, 2013
You think

Imperial, MO

#277 Mar 18, 2013
How about the fact first and most importantly is she has and is trying to make the city transparent. She has been video taping meetings for years. Now don't let counts fool you into believing that he was all for that because he certainly does not. Until its election time of course.

Have you ever been to a meeting to see how counts treats people? Maybe you should go and see how it all works. Then you can form an educated opinion. He is a devil dressed in sheeps clothing when it comes to politics.
remember when

Joplin, MO

#279 Mar 18, 2013
What is the plan wrote:
What good for the City of Arnold has she done with that? Please provide me with what actions she has taken to lead our City with votes in her favor?
You can't just run around yelling the sky is falling and expect everyone else to run with you... How will she repair the black eyes that Arnold has?
I'm not wanting to debate how we got them I just want to know how she will fix them.... Simply getting rid of a person or persons won't resolve the issue.
For the love of GOD please give me something I can hang my hat on!
For the love of GOD go to her public page and ask all the questions you want !!!
What's so hard about that ????
Were you ever the one in front or always the sucker punch from behind ?
remember when

Joplin, MO

#280 Mar 18, 2013
Now why on earth would counts even try to take the credit for meetings being taped ???
Because he is a Weaseling Liar ....that's why !!

Doris has been taping those meeting for years and posting them online due to the fact that swirling twirly bird venable would come on here and make up his own fantasy of the meetings.

She has been ridiculed for years for doing it , now counts wants the atta boy ?? What a low life !!!
Boris Dorkelt

United States

#281 Mar 18, 2013
remember when wrote:
Now why on earth would counts even try to take the credit for meetings being taped ???
Because he is a Weaseling Liar ....that's why !!
Doris has been taping those meeting for years and posting them online due to the fact that swirling twirly bird venable would come on here and make up his own fantasy of the meetings.
She has been ridiculed for years for doing it , now counts wants the atta boy ?? What a low life !!!
Just so everyone knows "remember when" is Doris.
Lookee Here

Arnold, MO

#282 Mar 18, 2013
Just so everyone knows, "Boris Dorkelt" is Candy! As you can tell she is a real adult intellect with school yard nanananabooboos to demonstrate to the public. This week at least. Last week she was a clinical psychologist with a practice in Illinois, what will her profession be this week? "remember when" is not Doris, just one of CC's many alter egos.

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