Mayoral election
What is the plan

Saint Louis, MO

#200 Mar 14, 2013
Hello is this thing on?? I'm a voter who wants to know what Doris has planned to lead our City.... Why is it that I don't yet have a response?

Because I'm not throwing dirt I don't get a response?
Kangaroo

Arnold, MO

#201 Mar 14, 2013
Oh, we have the peanut gallery weighing in. Just remember everybody on this board is Doris. That is what "they" have to believe to make it through a day. "They" like to throw that word defamatory around a lot. It is supposed to intimidate people, but it doesn't seem to be working anymore.
"They" would be the good old boys that are firmly entrenched and responsible for the disease normal people call corruption in this town.
Step up to the plate and hold them accountable. Go to a council meeting and see the circus as it is run first hand.

WAJ

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#202 Mar 14, 2013
My vote is with Doris. I hope to God that she wins this election, that will take care of Counts and then to get rid of Sweeney and Shockey! It's the only chance our city has to stop all of the lies, harassment, and corruption and to turn things around and finally start benefiting the city in a positive way!
Tenille

United States

#203 Mar 14, 2013
Captain wrote:
<quoted text>
Doris, YOU are the reason the public is fed up with the Council. Your continuous, baseless, defamatory accusations are pointless, and not true. TheCheckered Flag Motors comment is just another innuendo accusation with NOTHING to back it up. You may be able to whip your cult into a frenzy with this election year crap, but hopefully the real people see it for what it is.
I'm with you. I'm sick of her crap.
Kangaroo

Arnold, MO

#204 Mar 14, 2013
Tenille wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm with you. I'm sick of her crap.
Yes, you are sick of her exposing the nasty underbelly of Arnold. The corruption is like a cancer and it has sickened the whole community. It is time for some serious chemotherapy to root that vileness out of Arnold and she is the one to do it.
Tenille

United States

#205 Mar 14, 2013
She is an embarrassment to the city. I'm sick of the black eyes from her. I'm sick of reading about her shenanigans in the paper. Doesn't she have anything better to do? The letter in the paper yesterday said it all, quit sueing and start doing good for the community.
Concerned Citizen

Höst, Germany

#206 Mar 14, 2013
Tenille wrote:
She is an embarrassment to the city. I'm sick of the black eyes from her. I'm sick of reading about her shenanigans in the paper. Doesn't she have anything better to do? The letter in the paper yesterday said it all, quit sueing and start doing good for the community.
Did it ever occur to you and others that believe this, that the paper essentially prints "press releases" from the current administration? The Leader and Patch seem to be in bed with the good ole boys, and likely, it has something to do with Sweeney. Everything seems to "go through him" in this city. You see the administrators, directors, and others always checking with him. Why? Do they not know their job? Is all they do so "borderline" they need to check if it's legal? City Hall should be an open book, as they work for us, the citizens! All this secretive stuff Mayor Counts evokes needs to stop!

Why did Counts attempt to railroad Councilman Moss into resigning for some trumped up charge? My guess is because he knew Moss was going to challenge him for mayor and he knew that competition would be too stiff.

Why did Counts not only hide a very real case against Shockey, but promote him to City Administrator? All the while never telling the council the truth about the MCHR claim and lawsuit against him and the city.

Counts needs to go. ASAP! And hopefully the new mayor will send Shockley and Sweeney on their way, too!

Councilwoman Borgelt may not be the best people person, but she will do her diligence in opening the hidden corruption with our tax dollars that goes on behind closed doors at city hall.
Kangaroo

Arnold, MO

#207 Mar 14, 2013
Tenille wrote:
She is an embarrassment to the city. I'm sick of the black eyes from her. I'm sick of reading about her shenanigans in the paper. Doesn't she have anything better to do? The letter in the paper yesterday said it all, quit sueing and start doing good for the community.
Doris didn't sue anyone! Yet. You aren't getting the whole story. It's OK to drag Ken Moss through the mud and give away $55,000 because someone said he called Susie Boone a bad name, but the media didn't hear a word about the real sexual harassment case against the Owen Conarow, Chief of Police Shockey and the City. All of this happened on Ron Counts' watch. He is accountable.
Letusnamenames

United States

#208 Mar 14, 2013
I don't think you got the context of Tenille's post unless you read the letters to the editor in the paper. The writer says to stop filing lawsuits against each other and the city and do some good.
Kangaroo

Arnold, MO

#209 Mar 14, 2013
Maybe you need to have some communication with the city attorney. He is the one making all of the suggestions to people to sue! Maybe this will finally show how corrupt everything is and who is their fearless leader. Follow the money it all leads to Sweeney.
that guy

Osage Beach, MO

#210 Mar 14, 2013
DORIS BORGELT,
AS MAYOR SHE WILL WATCH OUT FOR YOU, LITERALLY
Say cheese!
remember when

United States

#211 Mar 14, 2013
Captain wrote:
<quoted text>
Doris, YOU are the reason the public is fed up with the Council. Your continuous, baseless, defamatory accusations are pointless, and not true. TheCheckered Flag Motors comment is just another innuendo accusation with NOTHING to back it up. You may be able to whip your cult into a frenzy with this election year crap, but hopefully the real people see it for what it is.
I am not fed up. I am paying attention and like to be well informed.
Please point out which of her accusations are false.

Could you have a debate on here with her so I can get a better idea of what the truth actually is ?
What topic would you like to start off with ?
Letusnamenames

United States

#212 Mar 15, 2013
Captain is right. He shouldn't prove which are false. She should have to submit the proof to show which are true. She has never posted the proof on here despite repeated requests.

In court the burden is on the accuser to prove their accusations. She has never submitted any proof and Captain has basically called her on it.

Still waiting on that information about what property she owns in Arnold. Instead of arguing why don't you just post the information to prove she didn't lie? Is it because it doesn't exist?
Arnold voter

Arnold, MO

#213 Mar 15, 2013
remember when wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not fed up. I am paying attention and like to be well informed.
Please point out which of her accusations are false.
Could you have a debate on here with her so I can get a better idea of what the truth actually is ?
What topic would you like to start off with ?
How about the patch headline abut the wall committee clashing with Arnold? That was a lie as she posted the weasel out of it statement in her Facebook page. She is responsible for any clash because none existed before she got herself involved. Arnold passed it unanimously. The council all went along with it. Doris is the only one whose motive is suspect in this matter.
Patch Defender

United States

#215 Mar 15, 2013
You know that post was a violation of TOS for defaming other individuals. You kept posting things even after you were informed of the TOS and your violations of the TOS and so you're account was suspended. The Patch enforces their TOS unlike on here where you get away with anything and everything.

Why don't you be fair and post the Patch's email responses to Mr. Hay instead of only giving the half-truth?

Didn't Mr. Hay also accuse Ms. Gassoway of telling people that he was JCPenKnife even when Ms. Gassoway told him that she didn't because she had spoken to JCPenKnife and knew who he was before she could have said what Matt accused her of?
Letusnamenames

United States

#216 Mar 15, 2013
So unlike here the Patch requires you to be a registered user?
Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#217 Mar 15, 2013
What is defamatory? As far as I can see all statements made by Mr. Hay were quite true! He is entitled to his opinion, whether you like it or not.
Many have heard of the big lie. The lie in Arnold has gone on for so long and gotten so large, it can no longer be hidden. It's like fire and smoke, the fire is behind the hot door raging, but all you see is the smoke coming out from underneath it, open that door, I dare you!
Voter

Saint Louis, MO

#218 Mar 15, 2013
Doris Borgelt wrote:
What is defamatory? As far as I can see all statements made by Mr. Hay were quite true! He is entitled to his opinion, whether you like it or not.
Many have heard of the big lie. The lie in Arnold has gone on for so long and gotten so large, it can no longer be hidden. It's like fire and smoke, the fire is behind the hot door raging, but all you see is the smoke coming out from underneath it, open that door, I dare you!
Doris, please give specifics for your accusations. Election year theatrics and ranting generalities satisfy your ardent supporters, but won't win you any converts or votes. What might help you is a listing of your accomplishments, qualifications to be Mayor, and your agenda to lead the City if you are elected. Until you can sell people that you can be a leader for the City, you will continue to be just a clanging bell.
reffef

Rochester, PA

#219 Mar 15, 2013
youtube.com/watch... …………… Excuses are Reasons
What is the plan

Saint Louis, MO

#220 Mar 15, 2013
Doris Borgelt wrote:
What is defamatory? As far as I can see all statements made by Mr. Hay were quite true! He is entitled to his opinion, whether you like it or not.
Many have heard of the big lie. The lie in Arnold has gone on for so long and gotten so large, it can no longer be hidden. It's like fire and smoke, the fire is behind the hot door raging, but all you see is the smoke coming out from underneath it, open that door, I dare you!
So now that you are here please stop ignoring me and provide your plan for making Arnold better... Clearly you have no issues with pointing out the issues, what are you going to do to fix them? You must have a plan for that..... Right??

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