Deaths by overdose this year alone!!!

Deaths by overdose this year alone!!!

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Since: Mar 07

Addison, IL

#1 Dec 17, 2010
Do you know how many people in Jefferson County have died due to drug overdoses this year? We hear alot about meth, and very little about HEROINE. Heroine is a major problem in our county, in our state; and these dealers are making money off of us burying our children. I know, you don't want to "get involved, you're scared", right? You'll want to get involved when it is your child or grandchild that ends up hooked on it, the most addictive and deadly of all drugs. I know last night alone, there was an overdose in Festus, and one in Hillsboro, the Hillsboro person died. It hasn't even came out in the news as of yet, but the scanner said the victim was J-4...which means deceased. So, another family is mourning the loss of a loved one today, while the dealers are out recruiting more victims...some as young as 13-14 years old. Get involved! We talk about Middle Eastern radical terrorists and the threat they pose to our country. We have domestic terrorists amongst us, and they are killing our kids. The cops have to follow such strict guidelines, they make arrests and then some Judge slaps the dealer on the hand and turns him looose. There is strength in numbers, and power in prayer. Pray about it, but also organize to educate yourselves, and become involved. We can take this county back, if we try. If you won't try, then don't be surprised when someone you love loses a child, a neighbor kid, someone you will know. I know I am po'd. Yea, we partied in the 70's, too, but we didn't have needle marks all over our bodies, didn't go out and break into houses, or nod out driving cars. Where's your fighting spirit, people? It's the good fight, so jump right on in there anytime now. You can call anonymously and turn in a dealer if you know of one out there, or you can sit on it, and take responsibility for the next dead kid.
Concerned Parent

Arnold, MO

#2 Jan 18, 2011
The schools don't want to do random locker checks or bring in drug dogs..because it makes the community "look bad"... and people won't want to move there...they would rather sacrifice your child..and trust me it COULD be your child..heroin is infesting our schools and our children..are your big spoons missing from your kitchen..if so you better test your kid..and get the $30 kit..check for opiates..thats what herion is..ask your local paramedic or firefighter how many calls they make for heroin overdoses..you will be amazed. I think its time to do something..this affects everyone..not just bad kids.
SAD PARENTS

Cape Girardeau, MO

#3 Jan 18, 2011
WE ARE LIVING THIS NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!! BREAKS YOUR HEART!!!!!! MY KIDS BEEN CLEAN 30 week IF YOUR LIVING WITH THIS . GOD IS THE ANSWER . HE SAVED OUR CHILDS LIFE.HE BROUGHT THEM HOME SO THEY CAN GET HELP . OUR CHILD PLAYED SCHOOL SPORT, COULD OF WENT TO COLLEGE. INSTEAD THEY ARE FIGHTING A HERION ADD. GOD IS THE ANSWER. NEVER THINK YOUR CHILD WONT THEY WILL1134

Since: Mar 07

Addison, IL

#4 Jan 18, 2011
At the risk of sounding totally crazy, I want SO bad to organize a group to figure out how to fight back. There are only so many cops, and we have a major problem. By the way, my only child was honor roll and honor society all through school. She was given 2 full scholarships to Jeffco. She is a heroine addict, and the things we have been through the past few years are totally devastating us. My diabetes, and blood pressure is no longer controlled through meds, and my nerves are shot. God is the answer, no doubt about it. My child was raised a Christian, but heroine seems to wipe out everything that meant anything to a person. It isn't just children, either, there are many adults using and hooked. I want the dealers shut down in our county; we can't save the world, but we could sure try to salvage our own county but being dilligent and alert, and not being afraid to get involved. Concerned parent, you are so right about that; image does seem to be more a priority to our leaders than people's lives. That, also, has to change. Remember, someone started MADD (Mothers against drunk drivers), and I think it is time, actually past time to try to recruit people to fight back. If we could save one life, it is worth it.
do it

Saint Louis, MO

#5 Jan 19, 2011
I think its time the parents and the people who care take back the streets and declare in one voice that we won't stand for this anymore. the police are overwhelmed . Its time that the people shut down the dealers themselves. Fight back . We can do this and all with in the real of legal justice. No more being afraid of stepping on peoples toes. that ended when these dirt bags starting killing our kids with the drugs and all this crap. NOW is the time to stop it. We need to rise up and say NO MORE!
the horrible people get rich off the blood of our friends, our families our babies. NO, it has to stop now.

Since: Mar 07

Addison, IL

#6 Jan 19, 2011
do it, that is exactly how I feel! We need a couple of strong leaders to organize, we need to recruit people to join in our cause, and we need to take action. My own kid told me the dealer said to her "Try it once, if you don't like it, you don't have to do it, again." You don't try heroine once, it is so highly addictive that it's a lifelong craving--that's what the doctors told us. And I know for sure of one who sells to kids as young as 13/14 years old if they have the money to but it. This worlds gone crazy with the things the bad people do, why not allow the good people to overstep a few bounds, that maybe used to wouldn't have been acceptable? I'm ready, but how many others out there are serious about it?
mom_54321

Festus, MO

#7 Jan 24, 2011
IdaClare wrote:
At the risk of sounding totally crazy, I want SO bad to organize a group to figure out how to fight back. There are only so many cops, and we have a major problem. By the way, my only child was honor roll and honor society all through school. She was given 2 full scholarships to Jeffco. She is a heroine addict, and the things we have been through the past few years are totally devastating us. My diabetes, and blood pressure is no longer controlled through meds, and my nerves are shot. God is the answer, no doubt about it. My child was raised a Christian, but heroine seems to wipe out everything that meant anything to a person. It isn't just children, either, there are many adults using and hooked. I want the dealers shut down in our county; we can't save the world, but we could sure try to salvage our own county but being dilligent and alert, and not being afraid to get involved. Concerned parent, you are so right about that; image does seem to be more a priority to our leaders than people's lives. That, also, has to change. Remember, someone started MADD (Mothers against drunk drivers), and I think it is time, actually past time to try to recruit people to fight back. If we could save one life, it is worth it.
I agree that the schools turn a blind eye because they don't want to look bad. Festus school is FULL of drug dealers and users. There have been numerous overdoses of heroin as well as many other drugs the past couple of years. Not all of the overdoses have resulted in death, so you don't even hear about those. I had to have my own child arrested to get help and when I tried to report a known drug dealer, I was ignored. In my opinion, until the child of someone 'important' is injured or dead this county won't really do anything.

Since: Mar 07

Addison, IL

#8 Jan 24, 2011
Mom 54321, that is beginning to change. Did you read the local "Leader" last Thursday? The seriousness of this is now being recognized, and is becoming top priority. And it should, because most of our crimes are drug related. If you tried to report a drug dealer and was ignored, you reported it to the wrong person. There shouldn't BE a "wrong" person in law enforcement, they should all be grateful for any help they can get. If the dealer is still in business, please find someone else to turn your tip over to, because you were definitely trying to do the right thing. I live every single day of my life wondering and worrying that I am going to lose my child, who is caught up in this wicked trap. And I have had enough, hopefully everyone who is able will join in and say "enough".
a mother

Hillsboro, MO

#9 Jan 27, 2011
i fight my son everyday to stay away from kids that have that name. im so scared to loose him to a drug that its heartbreaking. the fight im going through with him right now is making him hate me but i dont care he can hate me for the rest of his life if i can block him from heroin it will have all been worth it. im 34 and when i was a kid it was meth we never heard of heroin except for in movies. today its meth and heroin, im sick of seeing people ive know for years but havent seen in years with meth mouth looking like zombies, or u see their kid in the news paper dead from it. i knew someone who is no longer with us due to a wreck that went 10yrs clean after being an addict that went back just once and almost lost his life from just one time. the drug stays with the people who try and i dont think the want for it ever leaves them. and that is sad!!!!! u can talk bad about the poeple who do it, but what does that prove? i know to many good people who have fallen to its effects, well the effects of herion and meth!! it sucks that the police have it so hard with the rules that they have to follow but at the same time if those rules werent there ud have ur select FEW bad officers that would abuse weeker rules for their own means... but id rather see that happen then all these kids go underground and see whats left of their family, moms and dads, brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, ect... with the broken hearts. If you think about it couldnt a citizens arrest play part here. im not familiar with the law but its an idea

Since: Mar 07

Addison, IL

#10 Jan 27, 2011
a mother from festus: I completely agree with everything you posted. You can't really label those doing the drugs as "bad", because in reality, they were weak and gullible, vulnerable, and are the VICTIMS OF THE DEALERS WHO ARE GETTING RICH OFF OF SELLING IT. That is who I want to see go down, and I could care less if they are all reading my posts. They sell their poison, and one of our children die--they could care less. They know there will be a new victim coming soon. Parents are supposed to try to protect their children, and it doesn't matter to me if mine hates me for now, either. I am praying someday she will be a parent herself, clean from drugs, and then she will realize how difficult it is. No matter what it is I am trying to do, work/cook/shop...this preoccupies me 24 hours a day and 7 days per week. I am so scared that my child is going to be a statistic, a fatality from this. I believe the law allows for citizen arrests, but you have to be very careful in doing so. It's best to just call the police, and have them take care of it for you, since they are licensed to carry guns and the courts will recognize their authority. The "red tape" involved with the laws and especially our court system is a deterent; it's not meant to be, but it is. Sometimes it appears as if the criminals have more rights than the law abiding citizens, and sometimes they do! Read today's Leader, part 2 of what seems to be a series. Jan Haley of Arnold, Mo. buried her 23-year old granddaughter from heroine overdose in 2009. We must look at this as a WAR, PEOPLE! I am not a finatic activist, I am simply a parent whose life has been devastated by the addiction of my child on this crap. Please join in, fight the good fight. We can help. If you don't, don't be surprised when it is someone you know and love who is lost. Mother from Festus, I advice you to not back down, no matter what, in saving your son. A group of us needs to organize to discuss what all we can do to fight back.
Ive got an idea

Arnold, MO

#11 Feb 1, 2011
Raise your kids right, and dont look to the police to compensate for your shortcomings/inadequacies as a parent. The police are here to arrest and PUNISH drug dealers and DRUG ABUSERS alike, not rehabiitate them. How bout you turn your drug addict children into the police? The philosophy that the county government needs to haul off every dope dealer so little joey and little suzy dont have the opportunity to buy dope is laughable. People, addicts and enablers alike, need to accept responsibility for their actions and quit trying to label thenselves and their dope addict children as "victims." If someone got out a revolver and played russian roulet every day of their life, and blew their brains out one night, would you feel sorry for them? Would they be a victim? Would you campaign against the salesman that sold them te firearm? Do you know the Jeffco Sheriff's Dept. is so understaffed they have between 9 and 13 deputies on at a time? They are only funded by the half cent sales tax and are grossly understaffed, but you expect them to drop everythng they are doing and investigate some two cent lead that a drug addicts momy calls and tips them off to? Get real people, stop looking for everyone else to solve your problems, and realize that your CHILDREN are the PROBLEM.
brinstl

Fenton, MO

#12 Feb 1, 2011
If cops, courts and jails were a real fix to our drug problem, we could have ended the drug war years ago. Clearly what we have tried over the past 40 years has failed to provide any tangible results. What we have garnered is an ever increasing rate of drug use and an explosion in prison populations. We have the highest incarceration rate in the world folks! Why then do we continue on with these failed social policies?

We have an epidemic of addiction in this society that we need to confront. Let's spend MORE money on education, prevention, intervention and treatment and less on jailing people for drug addiction. We should jail those we are afraid of, not those we are mad at. I may not agree with your poor choices in life but that doesn't mean you're a criminal. But then again we are a selective lot when it comes to branding criminals. The moral police tell us heroin addicts are vile, but alcoholics, gamblers, food addicts, sex addicts and addicts of other sorts have "mental health problems". WTF? Why don't we jail everyone with sick addiction problems? Well, because most of us don't want to confront the demons in our own closets. Please, let's take the morality out of our approach to addiction and deal with the actual addiction problem.

Since: Mar 07

Addison, IL

#13 Feb 1, 2011
Dear I've Got An Idea: You are entitled to your idea, and your opinion, but you are sadly mistaken. Call the Sheriff's Department and speak with Cpl. Williams, why don't you? Alot of the kids who are addicted to meth and heroin come from Christian families, wealthy, who hold prestigious positions in society. Nobody is looking for someone else to solve their problems, the whole reason for these posts is for parents whose children have gotten addicted to this stuff can discuss what to do about it. You almost sound like maybe you are a dealer, yourself, and don't like seeing these posts because it is stepping on your toes? The days of being able to blame poor parenting are over, catch up with the time and educate yourself, please. You cannot even compare the sales of firearms to the sale of heroin or meth, well; you CAN, but it is irrational. But to answer your question, yes, if a child gets ahold of their parents loaded gun and shoots a friend and kills them - parents can/do face charges. You didn't tell us anything new that the Sheriff's Department is understaffed, they are also over-worked and underpaid...which is exactly why parents need to get together and try to help them get a grip on this problem. Your post definitely sounds like you are defending the dealers, telling everyone to leave them alone and let them prosper from the loss of our children. Don't think you'll recruit too many people to your side, but good luck with that. Read the Leader 2 weeks in a row, it doesn't share in your opinion...they are asking the community for help. Not once do they mention that parents are the source of the problem. My child was Honor Roll and Honor Society student, and a Christian; until she made one friend in Pevely, and allowed peer pressure to influence her to try it "just once". No such thing as "just once" with that drug. Thank You for practicing your right of free speech, but it did not come across as anyone who cares about the children dying, more someone who wants to defend the real criminals here. As far as you know, I could be in law enforcement, myself?

Since: Mar 07

Addison, IL

#14 Feb 1, 2011
I have one more comment to make, actually it is asking a question, and am interested in the majority's response. When someone who sells heroin and makes good money off of doing so, sells it to a high school freshman, who then becomes addicted to it...do you not consider that child a victim? And do you expect that same child's parents to be able to be with them 24/7, to keep them from getting the initial invitation to "try this, it'll make you feel good?" To say these children come from families who are poor, or there was bad parenting involved is an insult, nowdays. Now, I don't feel like the 30 something year old Registered Nurse who is also addicted to heroin is a "victim", because they should know better. Don't believe such a person exists, crawl out of your hole and investigate it, yourself.
brinstl

Fenton, MO

#15 Feb 1, 2011
I don't believe it's all bad parenting or bad homes or whatever else people claim. There are many factors that play into addiction. Why does one become addicted to gambling or alcohol? I would say the high school freshman and the 30 year old nurse are both potential addicts. They will both need help if they turn toward addiction. It's easy to say the 30 year old should have known better, but we all live in glass houses. We should all make better choices in our lives. Who among us in the adult world should be discounted or diminsished for the choices we've made? I'm not qualified to make such an assessment.

I'll aske you this: why is the heroin dealer making such a handsome profit? We can't beat the dealer until we beat the profit!
who cares

Gilbertsville, KY

#16 Feb 1, 2011
about a bunch of druggies...i love it when i hear a meth lab blows up.Good riddance.
Well Put

Chicago, IL

#17 Feb 2, 2011
Very well stated. People need to realize that some personal responsibility had to come into play here. If your little "angel" wouldn't have been such an idiot and tried this crap, maybe they wouldn't be stealing from you, or burglarizing your neighbors, to score "dope" money. Yes, the dealers need to be caught, and punished. But the parents need to step up and start teaching these damn kids what's right and wrong again, I'm tired of these little smart mouthed punks stealing from me. I hope to god I catch the next "angel" stealing from my house, cause mommy and daddy are gonna have a dead little "angel" and it won't be from the dope!!!!!

And last but not least, if you want to report a drug dealer to the police, remember, they have to have some type of probable cause, or evidence to go looking around in someones place, so just because u see people coming and going from a house alot, that is not enough "evidence" for you to be wasting one of our very valuable Jefferson County Officers time with.
Ive got anidea wrote:
Raiseyourkids right, and dont look to the police to compensate for your shortcomings/inadequacies as a parent. The police are here to arrest and PUNISH drug dealers and DRUG ABUSERS alike, not rehabiitate them. How bout you turn your drug addict children into the police? The philosophy that the county government needs to haul off every dope dealer so little joey and little suzy dont have the opportunity to buy dope is laughable. People, addicts and enablers alike, need to accept responsibility for their actions and quit trying to label thenselves and their dope addict children as "victims." If someone got out a revolver and played russian roulet every day of their life, and blew their brains out one night, would you feel sorry for them? Would they be a victim? Would you campaign against the salesman that sold them te firearm? Do you know the Jeffco Sheriff's Dept. is so understaffed they have between 9 and 13 deputies on at a time? They are only funded by the half cent sales tax and are grossly understaffed, but you expect them to drop everythng they are doing and investigate some two cent lead that a drug addicts momy calls and tips them off to? Get real people, stop looking for everyone else to solve your problems, and realize that your CHILDREN are the PROBLEM.
Hey mom

Arnold, MO

#18 Feb 13, 2011
so by your rationality, just because someone is wealthy or in a position of power, means that they are a good parent? Thats very flawed logic ma'am. Rich kids and the children of politicians are often drug addicts and criminals, largely due to their parents abscence. Good parenting is the best deterent to drug use or a life of crime. Being a "fun" or a "hip" parent like you see so much of these days is the grass root of juvenile deliquency as well as our dope addicted youth. And its fairly obvious you are in no way affiliated with law enforcement, because you are blaming everyone but yourself and your child for your childs drug addiction. Cpl. Williams and the MEG unit do an amazing job fighting drugs in this county, and they are increasingly bogged down by "parents" who waste their time with all these "tips" that turn out to be garbage, but are all investigated, wasting valuable resources because the sheriff wants to be re-elected. If you really want to make a difference mom, campaign for an increase in the half cent sales tax so the sheriff's dept can fill the 30+ deputy slots that are frozen at the department?

Since: Mar 07

Addison, IL

#19 Feb 13, 2011
Hey Mom...I'm not "blaming" anyone here, really. As far as Cpl. Williams and the Drug Task Force goes, nobody has to tell me that they are doing good work, are under-staffed, and are doing as much as humanly possible with the resources they have. I'm not a "hip" mom, either, far from it. I harbor alot of guilt, and wonder all the time what I did wrong as a parent. I know some of what I did wrong, but I also know alot that I did right; and it showed up until high school graduation. And her, I blame her tremendously for the poor judgment of trying it the first time, and then the second... So whether I am expressing myself wrong, or people are just wanting to read into it something I don't feel, I'm not sure. But is there anyone out there reading or posting on this thread who doesn't hold the dealers somewhat liable, also?
After all, they are the ONLY ONES profitting off of this--the users aren't, the parents aren't, the cops aren't. You can crucify me if it makes you feel better, but I am certainly not just sitting around talking about it, so it should be obvious that I care and really want to help resolve this deadly problem this entire county has. I'll do anything I can if it will save a life, not only my child's, but someone elses. Use as an example the K-2 they are making illegal for convenience stores to sell. They figure if it isn't on the shelf readily available, alot of kids won't use it. Same goes with those out dealing heroin, it's no different.
tim

Saint Louis, MO

#20 Feb 14, 2011
brinstl wrote:
I don't believe it's all bad parenting or bad homes or whatever else people claim. There are many factors that play into addiction. Why does one become addicted to gambling or alcohol? I would say the high school freshman and the 30 year old nurse are both potential addicts. They will both need help if they turn toward addiction. It's easy to say the 30 year old should have known better, but we all live in glass houses. We should all make better choices in our lives. Who among us in the adult world should be discounted or diminsished for the choices we've made? I'm not qualified to make such an assessment.
I'll aske you this: why is the heroin dealer making such a handsome profit? We can't beat the dealer until we beat the profit!
I totally agree, ITS NOT all bad parenting! I talked till I was "blue in the face" begging for my kid just to behave himself and stay away from drugs, drinking, and breaking the law! He is now an adult and shall now be responsible for his own actions... Do I wish he was different? YES! Do I feel guilty that he is not? NO! He was raised right and the choices he makes are now his, he will have to live with whatever mess he gets himself into!

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