Meet Fox School Board Candidate Ruth ...

Meet Fox School Board Candidate Ruth Ann Newman

There are 32 comments on the patch.com story from Mar 14, 2013, titled Meet Fox School Board Candidate Ruth Ann Newman. In it, patch.com reports that:

Patch sent all local candidates for office identical questionnaires in order to compile candidate profiles prior to the April election.

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Imperial, MO

#1 Mar 14, 2013
While she may have been a great teacher in her day, a board member she is no more. It's time to call it quits and let someone else have a turn.
Letusnamenames

United States

#2 Mar 14, 2013
She won't fix the nepotism problem. She has daughters working for the district. She also stated that they are third generation teaching there. That is a HUGE problem.
Concerned Citizen

France

#3 Mar 14, 2013
All the current board members need to be replaced as it was a unanimous vote to hire the directors daughter in law whose only qualification she had was her last name was Nash. Unfortunately, we can only remove 2 this election.
Sam Ferry

Saint Louis, MO

#4 Mar 14, 2013
I had a meeting with some of my neighbors last night. There were six there aside from me. Not a single one of them really understood the depth of that 6 to 0 vote. When I told them how entrenched this school board was all of them agreed to help vote out the two incumbants in April. It is a "bragging right" of the administration that this current board has served for a combined 75 years or whatever the amount is. Even the best of the best need to be replaced every once and a while. It is like prunning a tree, it promotes new growth and a healthier tree!
anonymous

United States

#5 Mar 14, 2013
Ruthann's bio wasn't written well. Why all the exclamation marks and all caps? That's not just bad punctuation usage but unprofessional too. She needs to be replaced in my opinion.
Barb

United States

#6 Mar 14, 2013
Sam Ferry wrote:
I had a meeting with some of my neighbors last night. There were six there aside from me. Not a single one of them really understood the depth of that 6 to 0 vote. When I told them how entrenched this school board was all of them agreed to help vote out the two incumbants in April. It is a "bragging right" of the administration that this current board has served for a combined 75 years or whatever the amount is. Even the best of the best need to be replaced every once and a while. It is like prunning a tree, it promotes new growth and a healthier tree!
Sam, I have very close ties to one of the BOE members and he says just because a vote is 6-0 or 7-0 doesn't mean that they ALL AGREE. They have a "deal" if you will to discuss differences behind closed doors and then however the opinion of the BOE goes that is how they all vote. I know for a fact that this BOE member was NOT for hiring Nash but went along with the vote to show unity. Unlike some other boards who "air" their dirty laundry in public the Fox BOE does not elect to do that.

So, they may disagree say 5-2 or 4-3 but they all vote in the way the majority of the board decides. You need to talk to the individual members to find out where they stand. Look at the Arnold City coucil if you want to see a council that airs all it's dorty laundry in public.
Sam Ferry

Saint Louis, MO

#7 Mar 14, 2013
Barb wrote:
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Sam, I have very close ties to one of the BOE members and he says just because a vote is 6-0 or 7-0 doesn't mean that they ALL AGREE. They have a "deal" if you will to discuss differences behind closed doors and then however the opinion of the BOE goes that is how they all vote. I know for a fact that this BOE member was NOT for hiring Nash but went along with the vote to show unity. Unlike some other boards who "air" their dirty laundry in public the Fox BOE does not elect to do that.
So, they may disagree say 5-2 or 4-3 but they all vote in the way the majority of the board decides. You need to talk to the individual members to find out where they stand. Look at the Arnold City coucil if you want to see a council that airs all it's dorty laundry in public.
You are not the first one that has explained that logic to me. It is faulty! Not you, it. Doing the right thing always trumps appearance! If your belief is that something is not right, you should stand by that. THAT is the reason they are voted in. Try applying the same logic to a jury. Three of them think that absolutely the person is not quilty but they just went along with the majority to show unity. Never! We either stand for what we believe is right or we are sheep! I do not want sheep running the school district!
anonymous

United States

#8 Mar 14, 2013
Amen, sam. That line of "logic" is for the birds, not the education system. Honesty and transparency would be refreshing so we know where everyone stands. Seems obvious to me. Sorry.
Barb

Westchester, IL

#9 Mar 14, 2013
Sam Ferry wrote:
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You are not the first one that has explained that logic to me. It is faulty! Not you, it. Doing the right thing always trumps appearance! If your belief is that something is not right, you should stand by that. THAT is the reason they are voted in. Try applying the same logic to a jury. Three of them think that absolutely the person is not quilty but they just went along with the majority to show unity. Never! We either stand for what we believe is right or we are sheep! I do not want sheep running the school district!
Sorry Sam this is NOT a jury. But, if you want to go along with that logic it only takes ONE person to get a hung jury in a murder trial. So, there even the majority does not win.(You started this "jury" senario, not me).

The "decison" is made on a "majority" basis on a board. Why give the press an opportunity to get involved and try to cause disharmony on the board. This is what happens at Arnold City Hall. Look what the press does there, and the people are still not happy. I think the way the school board opperates is a better way. You are still voicing your differences and I understand the board members do "stick by thier beliefs, just not in the public area where the press can tear it apart.

This is not a jury and your senario doesn't hold water. If you want to find out what the board members think about a situation you should call them like I do and ask them to explain their position. It has been very valuable for me.
Sam Ferry

Saint Louis, MO

#10 Mar 14, 2013
Barb wrote:
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Sorry Sam this is NOT a jury. But, if you want to go along with that logic it only takes ONE person to get a hung jury in a murder trial. So, there even the majority does not win.(You started this "jury" senario, not me).
The "decison" is made on a "majority" basis on a board. Why give the press an opportunity to get involved and try to cause disharmony on the board. This is what happens at Arnold City Hall. Look what the press does there, and the people are still not happy. I think the way the school board opperates is a better way. You are still voicing your differences and I understand the board members do "stick by thier beliefs, just not in the public area where the press can tear it apart.
This is not a jury and your senario doesn't hold water. If you want to find out what the board members think about a situation you should call them like I do and ask them to explain their position. It has been very valuable for me.
Of course it is not a jury Barb that is not the point. It was about showing UNITY even though unity did not exist! That is why I said who cares about how it appears, let's see "how it is". The press should get the opportunity because public officials are there to serve......wait fot it.........the public! The entire process should be transparent. We actually own it, we have that right! Had they done that in the first case they would not be in the mess they are presently in. They are ALL to blame and they said so themselves with a 6-0 vote. They are supposed to disagree, oh my goodness what a bunch of weak willed beings we are when we are so threatened by public disagreement. It is those very open diagreements that we as voters depend on!
remember when

United States

#11 Mar 14, 2013
Barb wrote:
<quoted text>
Sam, I have very close ties to one of the BOE members and he says just because a vote is 6-0 or 7-0 doesn't mean that they ALL AGREE. They have a "deal" if you will to discuss differences behind closed doors and then however the opinion of the BOE goes that is how they all vote. I know for a fact that this BOE member was NOT for hiring Nash but went along with the vote to show unity. Unlike some other boards who "air" their dirty laundry in public the Fox BOE does not elect to do that.
So, they may disagree say 5-2 or 4-3 but they all vote in the way the majority of the board decides. You need to talk to the individual members to find out where they stand. Look at the Arnold City coucil if you want to see a council that airs all it's dorty laundry in public.
Oh no no, I will not buy that distorted logic!
I will stand on my feet for what is right, not on my knees for fear of anyone.
They stand by their vote, no back peddling later!
That was the most idiotic hire known to the public yet and if anyone disagreed by god they should have stood up and said so. That bulling trading favor system has got to stop immediately.
That super an everyone involved with her is an absolute embarrassment!
I commend Sam for his stance and I agree with him.

Furthermore he has a right to speak out and should tell whoever sent him the letter to wipe there arse with it.
How dare you tell him to shut up!
Barb

United States

#12 Mar 15, 2013
Sam Ferry wrote:
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Of course it is not a jury Barb that is not the point. It was about showing UNITY even though unity did not exist! That is why I said who cares about how it appears, let's see "how it is". The press should get the opportunity because public officials are there to serve......wait fot it.........the public! The entire process should be transparent. We actually own it, we have that right! Had they done that in the first case they would not be in the mess they are presently in. They are ALL to blame and they said so themselves with a 6-0 vote. They are supposed to disagree, oh my goodness what a bunch of weak willed beings we are when we are so threatened by public disagreement. It is those very open diagreements that we as voters depend on!
It is NEVER "the point" with you Sam. I am sorry your are nothing but an old disgruntled ex-employee of the district. If you want drama then go to Arnold City Hall. I can't help it if you are unwilling to communicate with those who serve you. It is not "open disagreement", that is why personnel matter are discussed in "closed" sessions.
Timothy

United States

#13 Mar 15, 2013
Barb wrote:
<quoted text>
It is NEVER "the point" with you Sam. I am sorry your are nothing but an old disgruntled ex-employee of the district. If you want drama then go to Arnold City Hall. I can't help it if you are unwilling to communicate with those who serve you. It is not "open disagreement", that is why personnel matter are discussed in "closed" sessions.
Barb I agree with you. I know Sam and I know he has a ax to grind. I stopped going to the meetings at city hall because of all of the grand standing and crazyness. You are also right about the press. They love to stir the pot and divide people so they have a story.

I am supporting Mark Jones for school board, he seems to be a good person who doesn't have an agenda.
Time Out

Deepwater, MO

#14 Mar 15, 2013
Barb wrote:
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It is NEVER "the point" with you Sam. I am sorry your are nothing but an old disgruntled ex-employee of the district. If you want drama then go to Arnold City Hall. I can't help it if you are unwilling to communicate with those who serve you. It is not "open disagreement", that is why personnel matter are discussed in "closed" sessions.
With your logic Barb, I guess that all lawmakers should vote with the majority or president to show
unity.,,, are you serious!!!!
Sam Ferry

Saint Louis, MO

#15 Mar 15, 2013
Barb wrote:
<quoted text>
It is NEVER "the point" with you Sam. I am sorry your are nothing but an old disgruntled ex-employee of the district. If you want drama then go to Arnold City Hall. I can't help it if you are unwilling to communicate with those who serve you. It is not "open disagreement", that is why personnel matter are discussed in "closed" sessions.
You don't like that I disagree with you. You should be used to it by this point in life. Being old is never an insult to me, I was young and stupid before, that did not work out for me. Barb you are among a minority here, you should just agree with me to show unity. The board voted 6-0 and they should all be accountable to that! I am glad they have your shoulder to cry on, they'll need it.
Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#16 Mar 15, 2013
Barb wrote:
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It is NEVER "the point" with you Sam. I am sorry your are nothing but an old disgruntled ex-employee of the district. If you want drama then go to Arnold City Hall. I can't help it if you are unwilling to communicate with those who serve you. It is not "open disagreement", that is why personnel matter are discussed in "closed" sessions.
Dear Barb,
Resorting to personal attacks or discounting someone else's opinion does not effectively argue your point. Mr. Ferry appears to be an educated, thoughtful, caring person who has taken time out of his life to clean up what he and many others see as a problem that exists within the Fox C-6 School District. You complain about drama at City Hall? That is due to the fact the majority(myself included), who disagree with the minority (P,P&B) are dragged through the press by the Mayor and city attorney who obviously have a direct line to the local media. Also that same majority is harassed via email and snide comments made in person, majority being (D,M,S,K). I would rather stand up for what is right than just go along to get along. That brand of logic is what has gotten ALL of us into this mess. People elect a variety of people so there will be a variety of ideas on any given board or council. You may think of and offer something that I wouldn't, doesn't mean it's not a good idea, just means I didn't think of it! It's OK to disagree with fellow members, do you agree with your spouse 100% of the time?
If certain members disagreed with the hire, they should have voted against it when the time came, then the public would know that some do actually know the difference between right and wrong regardless of appearance's sake.
Letusnamenames

United States

#17 Mar 15, 2013
I agree. They should be open and vote the way they feel. Ms. Newman might soon get a lesson in that if she is voted out over this nepotism hiring that she said she didn't agree with but voted for anyway just to show unity.
Sam Ferry

Saint Louis, MO

#18 Mar 15, 2013
Timothy wrote:
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Barb I agree with you. I know Sam and I know he has a ax to grind. I stopped going to the meetings at city hall because of all of the grand standing and crazyness. You are also right about the press. They love to stir the pot and divide people so they have a story.
I am supporting Mark Jones for school board, he seems to be a good person who doesn't have an agenda.
Gee Timothy because you would never think to say something that is not true maybe you could explain to everyone what my particular "ax" is. After all you "know me".
Yeah the press is a horrible thing, we should abolish it altogether. As much as I think the press has an agenda, I will take their agenda over the agenda of this Board and administration any day of the week!
Letusnamenames

United States

#19 Mar 15, 2013
Doris,

You would be good to take a lesson from yourself.
She does not get it

United States

#20 Mar 15, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
She won't fix the nepotism problem. She has daughters working for the district. She also stated that they are third generation teaching there. That is a HUGE problem.
By her statement in the Patch article, added below, shows that she does not even have a grasp of the nepotism law. It is intended to prevent elected officials from hiring or promoting their family members due to their relation by blood or affinity (marriage). She may be a nice lady but she does not understand the issue at all.

Newman: "If I was told that I could not teach in the Fox Schools because my mother was a teacher, I would have been crushed!"

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