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Doris Borgelt

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This is what this thread is supposed to be about. Someone chooses to muddy the waters with personal attacks, because they cannot dispute that what happened at the council meeting last Thursday evening WAS A FRAUD.
Five (5) councilpersons elected shall constitute a quorum for the transaction of business. If at any meeting of the council a quorum is not present, the meeting shall stand adjourned until the next regular or special meeting; however, any two (2) members of the council, or the mayor, may have a call of the council and require the chief of police or his delegate to serve upon absent council members, anywhere in the State of Missouri, notice that the council is having a meeting and requesting their attendance; and should any one (1) council member or more of them fail to appear, the two (2) members making the call or the mayor may make and enter an order into the records of the city council stating which council member failed to appear although duly noticed to do so.
Budget and expenditures, approval by ordinance, motion, or resolution required.

See: http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C000-099/0770 ...

77.105. The budget or ANY AUTHORIZATION to expend funds shall be approved by an ordinance, motion, or resolution that is approved by a majority of ALL THE MEMBERS ELECTED to the governing body.

Important words are capitalized. This is essentially a vote to expend funds, and has the same statutory threshold as an ordinance. In fact, the County Council passes them as ordinances per the Charter. That said, it is not about how many are present at the meeting, unlike a non-expenditure resolution, which is a simple majority of THOSE PRESENT. Expenditure authorizations require a quorum of the number of elected members, which is 8. This was the same issue faced by the City when Al Ems passed and Counts left the seat vacant for some 2 months, and the same reason why the 4-2 in favor vote in Fenton the other week to restrict pseudophedrine sales still failed. They also have 8 members, one whom resigned and the seat is vacant and one was absent. The statutory threshold to pass the measure is exactly the same, and because of that it failed, as it needed a 5th Council vote in the affirmative to pass.

It does not matter if you call it an ordinance, resolution or even a motion, they are all the same in this case because it expends funds, which is why the statute refers to "Budget and expenditures, approval by ordinance, motion, or resolution required"
Mike Evans

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Doris Borgelt wrote:
This is what this thread is supposed to be about. Someone chooses to muddy the waters with personal attacks, because they cannot dispute that what happened at the council meeting last Thursday evening WAS A FRAUD.
Five (5) councilpersons elected shall constitute a quorum for the transaction of business. If at any meeting of the council a quorum is not present, the meeting shall stand adjourned until the next regular or special meeting; however, any two (2) members of the council, or the mayor, may have a call of the council and require the chief of police or his delegate to serve upon absent council members, anywhere in the State of Missouri, notice that the council is having a meeting and requesting their attendance; and should any one (1) council member or more of them fail to appear, the two (2) members making the call or the mayor may make and enter an order into the records of the city council stating which council member failed to appear although duly noticed to do so.
Budget and expenditures, approval by ordinance, motion, or resolution required.
See: http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C000-099/0770 ...
77.105. The budget or ANY AUTHORIZATION to expend funds shall be approved by an ordinance, motion, or resolution that is approved by a majority of ALL THE MEMBERS ELECTED to the governing body.
Important words are capitalized. This is essentially a vote to expend funds, and has the same statutory threshold as an ordinance. In fact, the County Council passes them as ordinances per the Charter. That said, it is not about how many are present at the meeting, unlike a non-expenditure resolution, which is a simple majority of THOSE PRESENT. Expenditure authorizations require a quorum of the number of elected members, which is 8. This was the same issue faced by the City when Al Ems passed and Counts left the seat vacant for some 2 months, and the same reason why the 4-2 in favor vote in Fenton the other week to restrict pseudophedrine sales still failed. They also have 8 members, one whom resigned and the seat is vacant and one was absent. The statutory threshold to pass the measure is exactly the same, and because of that it failed, as it needed a 5th Council vote in the affirmative to pass.
It does not matter if you call it an ordinance, resolution or even a motion, they are all the same in this case because it expends funds, which is why the statute refers to "Budget and expenditures, approval by ordinance, motion, or resolution required"
Doris, LOL, I've been reading through your postings...and I have some great news for you: You Don't Know What You're Talking About! So, to those who are calling you crazy, they are wrong, you just don't know what your talking about and IT'S OK! With a little patience, hard work and taking time away from dagger throwing practice, AND OF COURSE pretending to be a lawyer, you might actually get re-elected to the council sometime in the next decade.

In the meantime, I thought you would enjoy this: http://mike4missouri.blogspot.com/2013/03/dor...

Have a super day...because that's what COUNTS!
like you give a damn

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Doris Borgelt wrote:
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Identify yourself and stand up instead of lurking in the background waiting to pounce. I have always been known for being straightforward with people. I won't say anything about you that I won't say to you. If I said it, I claim it. I don't dance around. I don't like liars and if I catch someone lying, I call them on it and NEVER trust them again. I don't like thieves or cheaters either. Guess you have figured that out by now. Like I said before, if you have a problem with me, take it up with me. If you continue to drag my daughter into this, I will take appropriate action in addition to reporting you to Topix.
You self rightrous bitch. After all the instances where you attempted to destroy someone's job... you obviously don't give a damn about the impact on their kids.
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No one can attempt to destroy one's job. There is only one way to destroy one's job. That is for an employee to do something that greatly violates the policies of the company to which one is employed, unless of course you work for the City of Arnold, then it just depends on who your friends are.
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Mike you are a sick. Maybe a trip to Hyland should be in order for you. Looks like you have an obsession over Doris.
Mike Evans

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Arnold Citizen wrote:
Mike you are a sick. Maybe a trip to Hyland should be in order for you. Looks like you have an obsession over Doris.
LOL, actually, I am a service-connected disabled Veteran. Oh Lord,I'm not obsessed, lol, trust me...

I speak the truth...and I put my name on what I post :-) but I guess you get confused easily...it's OK :-)

Mike
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Big Question wrote:
An effort to have Independence voters decide in November whether to put fluoride in the city’s water died Monday on a tied City Council vote.
With Council Member Charlie Rich absent, the final vote was 3-3 on an ordinance to put the issue on the ballot. Voting in favor were Jason White, Jim Schultz and Mayor Ron Stewart, while Don Reimal, John Perkins and Renee Paluka voted no.
Another example in Missouri
The Mayor can not vote unless there is a tie?
This is how most councils are set up. Someone needs to check this out.
Goodnight

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Mike Evans wrote:
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LOL, actually, I am a service-connected disabled Veteran. Oh Lord,I'm not obsessed, lol, trust me...
I speak the truth...and I put my name on what I post :-) but I guess you get confused easily...it's OK :-)
Mike
How long were you in what service? Did you serve in a war zone? Is your disability your mental state? How many years can one remain a private? Now be sure to answer truthfully!
Wake up

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I wonder if your supporters in the gay community know about your true service record and your willingness to exploit any scant affiliation you may have to any organization along with your ablity to exaggerate your disadvantages. http://rturner229.blogspot.com/2012/12/gay-mi...
ARNOLD RESIDENT

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Mike
That was the BEST video ever. You did a remarkable job!!!!! And oh so true.I sure am gonna pass the word around to check it out. Thank YOu for that!
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Mike Evans wrote:
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LOL, actually, I am a service-connected disabled Veteran. Oh Lord,I'm not obsessed, lol, trust me...
I speak the truth...and I put my name on what I post :-) but I guess you get confused easily...it's OK :-)
Mike
Disabled yes, you are.....in the brain..... I watched you the other night and you acted like a freaking fool. What you people on the Counts boat don't get is you acted every bit as ignorant if not more. Then only difference is, is you folks lie, and tell more lies to cover up the last lie....

Hey Mr. Disabled Vet., what do you think about your boy Counts wanting to poke the wall committee in the butt for over 60k for a piece of property worth soooo much less? I'd be mighty proud to call myself a Veteran and the support the par for the course, cronies . I hope you don't add your family businesses name to your comments because it may do them in.

Soooo glad we don't have to worry about you teaching our kids anymore.
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Bill Moritz wrote:
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Doris, your daughter J is one of my daughter’s closest friends. She has spent many evenings and overnights in my home, the most recent was a week ago Friday. I have taken her up for a ride in my airplane. She sees my daughter regularly. Debbie has had her out for dinner. When you set her up to run your video camera and then do not caution her about how the meetings are run, everything after that falls upon you. Shame on you for allowing this to happen to her. She is a sweetheart and you are leading her astray. You do not get to set rules you will not follow yourself. You can be a rude and vile witch but you do not set your daughter up to take a fall for which you are responsible and then claim an injustice when someone else calls you out on it. You have three meetings left before your term ends. Try to do some good in that time.
Pretty low Moritz....... You should be proud. How would you like someone to do that to your daughter? If you were any kind of father you should know better. Classy guy is not what I'd ever call you.
Mike Evans

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ARNOLD RESIDENT wrote:
Mike
That was the BEST video ever. You did a remarkable job!!!!! And oh so true.I sure am gonna pass the word around to check it out. Thank YOu for that!
Thanks! Just keeping it real ;)

To the person who is inquiring about my time in service was the late 90's, you are correct, unfortunately little is known about my service since I was M.I. and held a certain level of clearance and I have to leave it at that.
Good Video

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Good Video Mike.
Some of the words move too fast to be read, but the point does come across.

http://mike4missouri.blogspot.com/2013/03/dor...
ARNOLD RESIDENT

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Mike Evans wrote:
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Doris, LOL, I've been reading through your postings...and I have some great news for you: You Don't Know What You're Talking About! So, to those who are calling you crazy, they are wrong, you just don't know what your talking about and IT'S OK! With a little patience, hard work and taking time away from dagger throwing practice, AND OF COURSE pretending to be a lawyer, you might actually get re-elected to the council sometime in the next decade.
In the meantime, I thought you would enjoy this: http://mike4missouri.blogspot.com/2013/03/dor...
Have a super day...because that's what COUNTS!
Heres a thought: Why not put that on UTube so more people can see it. I would like for everyone to see it!!!
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Mike,

Don't worry about the personal attacks. That's what Doris and her clan do when they either want to avoid telling the truth or can't dispute the facts. You're successfully making them look bad.

And as for Doris not lying, well, we all know that is a lie. When you accuse without proof that is the same as lying. When you refuse to answer questions that is lying by omission.

They'll keep attacking you to try to scare you of and will use multiple screen names to do it to make it look like a crowd. When they can't care you off they accuse you of being other people and then after that they start threatening. They don't ever learn. Some people do not scare.

And Doris, if your daughter is of age, the people are allowed to discuss her public actions. Especially if she chooses to post on here about it and participate in the discussion.
Good grief

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Letusnamenames wrote:
Mike,
Don't worry about the personal attacks. That's what Doris and her clan do when they either want to avoid telling the truth or can't dispute the facts. You're successfully making them look bad.
And as for Doris not lying, well, we all know that is a lie. When you accuse without proof that is the same as lying. When you refuse to answer questions that is lying by omission.
They'll keep attacking you to try to scare you of and will use multiple screen names to do it to make it look like a crowd. When they can't care you off they accuse you of being other people and then after that they start threatening. They don't ever learn. Some people do not scare.
And Doris, if your daughter is of age, the people are allowed to discuss her public actions. Especially if she chooses to post on here about it and participate in the discussion.
I'm pretty sure I witnessed mike act as crazy as you are saying Doris acts. He looked like a complete idiot.
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You can try to state it all you want, but from on here it seems like Doris accuses people of acting crazy that just hack her off because they have made her look bad or have called her on her lies.
Letusnamenames

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Here's the question of the day, of Doris is sooooooo scared o Mike Evans, has she reported her concerns to the police department so there is a record? If not, then she is jut crying foul yet again where nothing exists. Filing a false report is a criminal action. Just saying....
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Letusnamenames wrote:
Filing a false report is a criminal action. Just saying....
Keeping in mind I just attacked others in this very thread for being a armchair lawyer. I'm such an idiot! Just Saying!

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