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Central Valley School District Teachers Teaching Bad Habits

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Concerned Parent

Springfield, NJ

#1 Sep 20, 2013
My son attends the new Jarvis middle school. He has witnessed numerous counts of teachers letting there personal feelings interfere with there work. This includes one teacher that has complained about having to move schools almost daily. They have been additionally been complaining about hourly pay, and hours non-stop.

Call me old fashion but if you are a salary employee, you don't calculate or look at your hourly rate. If you are a professional you work without complaining about long hours durning a crunch time. I really don't care if a teacher believes they are underpaid, this has been true for my entire life, if you wanted to make more money then you shouldn't have been a teacher. If you didn't want to move schools grow up, jobs change, long gone are the days of working at a single place for your entire life. If you aren't qualified for something else then you should have prepared. We all knew a merger would eventually happen, so get over it and stop complaining in front of our kids. I want my son to grow up understanding that you work hard for what you earn, and if you want to make a lot of money the you pick a job that actually pays well.
Ole timer

Poland, NY

#2 Sep 21, 2013
So you do believe that teachers are underpaid?
That's interesting when you consider so many of
the other posts about teachers' salaries being so
high. P.S. It's "their" not "there" in your
second sentence.
concerned child

Bridgeport, NY

#3 Sep 21, 2013
Concerned Parent wrote:
My son attends the new Jarvis middle school. He has witnessed numerous counts of teachers letting there personal feelings interfere with there work. This includes one teacher that has complained about having to move schools almost daily. They have been additionally been complaining about hourly pay, and hours non-stop.
Call me old fashion but if you are a salary employee, you don't calculate or look at your hourly rate. If you are a professional you work without complaining about long hours durning a crunch time. I really don't care if a teacher believes they are underpaid, this has been true for my entire life, if you wanted to make more money then you shouldn't have been a teacher. If you didn't want to move schools grow up, jobs change, long gone are the days of working at a single place for your entire life. If you aren't qualified for something else then you should have prepared. We all knew a merger would eventually happen, so get over it and stop complaining in front of our kids. I want my son to grow up understanding that you work hard for what you earn, and if you want to make a lot of money the you pick a job that actually pays well.
I don't know and don't care who you're talking about but let me tell you about my mom. She works for cvsd and she is a hard worker and a respected teacher. She never complains about her work or her pay especially to the kids. I never had her for a teacher because she's my mother but many of my friends have and they will tell you that this is true. This week mom got a bladder infection. She's never had one in her life. It's because she can't find time all morning long to get out of her classroom to use the bathroom! Come on, even walmart allows their workers time for that. While I agree that the kids shouldn't hear about this, if you as an adult think that this is OK than you are either a teacher hater or just plain twisted.
Concerned Parent

New York, NY

#4 Sep 21, 2013
concerned child wrote:
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I don't know and don't care who you're talking about but let me tell you about my mom. She works for cvsd and she is a hard worker and a respected teacher. She never complains about her work or her pay especially to the kids. I never had her for a teacher because she's my mother but many of my friends have and they will tell you that this is true. This week mom got a bladder infection. She's never had one in her life. It's because she can't find time all morning long to get out of her classroom to use the bathroom! Come on, even walmart allows their workers time for that. While I agree that the kids shouldn't hear about this, if you as an adult think that this is OK than you are either a teacher hater or just plain twisted.
I never said that a teacher can't go to the bathroom, come on. I hope your mom feels better soon. If she is one of the 1 out of 10 good teachers then we need her to help fix this terribly broken system.

As for the other commenter, it doesn't matter if I think teachers are underpaid or not, they chose a career that doesn't pay much and never have. You can't expect good pay for a job that no one get good pay doing. I've heard the excuse many times that some teachers do it because they really believe in teaching, that's great, then they don't need to be paid to want to work so they also have no right to complain. You either work because you love what you do or you work for the money.

They pay of a public school teacher will always be low as long as people want to keep there taxes low that's a fundamental concept that anyone going into the teaching profession knows.
Remember

Little Falls, NY

#6 Sep 21, 2013
They only work 180 days a year. So they are paid quite well. Most make more than people who work the entire year.
Ole timer

Northville, NY

#7 Sep 21, 2013
If you are a "concerned parent", learn the difference between "there" and "their" so you
can teach it to your children!
What kind of taco

Syracuse, NY

#8 Sep 21, 2013
kind of like min. wage workers complaining about min. wage....stop complaining and find another effing job. someone else would be thrilled to be doing what ur doing. and teachers are better becuz??!!
And

Skaneateles, NY

#9 Sep 22, 2013
What kind of taco wrote:
kind of like min. wage workers complaining about min. wage....stop complaining and find another effing job. someone else would be thrilled to be doing what ur doing. and teachers are better becuz??!!
I don't know of anybody with a job these days that doesn't have a job complaint. Economic times are hard and everybody is being squeezed at work. I don't care if you are a minimum wage worker a teacher or a doctor. At work people are being expected to do more and more and more. It's getting to the point that the American laborer just can't humanly do everything plus balance their family life. Teachers are no different. I think most really enjoy what they do but circumstances have made doing their job properly impossible- just like doctors and nurses and everybody else.
Another Parent

New York, NY

#10 Sep 22, 2013
I think we can all agree that a teacher complaining about pay to their class teaches students a negative lesson.
Over it

New York, NY

#11 Sep 22, 2013
This is no different than last year when they were telling students they should make sure their parent should vote for the merger or they (the teachers) would lose their jobs. Also kids overheard teachers crying in the halls last year that they were going to lose their jobs because the state tests were too hard for the kids to pass. Appropriate, professional behavior on the part of educators and administrators apparently is no longer a job requirement. Let's not forget the assistant principal telling us all at orientation how she only got one week off all summer due to this merger. Poor baby!
exaggeration possible

Albany, NY

#12 Sep 22, 2013
Another Parent wrote:
I think we can all agree that a teacher complaining about pay to their class teaches students a negative lesson.
I'd have to actually hear the conversation. The hearsay thing doesn't work for me.

I remember a new teacher getting into a conversation with his students about jobs and income. He said things were difficult for him at the time. He said jobs were hard to find, in turn he was traveling a good distance to work, which was costly. He said, being a new teacher he started at the bottom of the pay scale, which is the norm in most fields. He indicated things would be difficult until he could afford to move his family closer and work his way up the ladder.

This teacher coached and took odd jobs to supplement his income.

I viewed none of this as complaining, rather a life lesson.
Concerning

Ardsley, NY

#13 Sep 22, 2013
I worked hard and didn't complain about starting at the bottom, now I run my own company. If a teacher is even discussing their issues with having financial trouble because they started at the bottom, then they better be doing so in a way that the students understand that this is normal and what they should expect. If they do not, then the student is free to assume that it's out of the ordinary and when they themselves are in a similar situation they should expect more.

Yes it's a bad economy, and it has been for since the dot com bust, so what. When I picked my profession I attended college and earned my degrees, when I worked I worked my way up, and the entire time I educated myself as to what was needed most in my field. I have never been concerned with being laid off, business acquisitions, or changes in the economy.

I echo one of the previous comments, if you are a teacher then you chose to be, it didn't just happen. That means that you chose to be underpaid, you chose to teach all day and take additional work home with you at night. You chose to keep all your feeling about life out of the classroom and do your job like a professional. If you did not chose any of this then quit because. You're in the wrong profession.
Bfd

Albany, NY

#14 Sep 22, 2013
Concerning wrote:
I worked hard and didn't complain about starting at the bottom, now I run my own company. If a teacher is even discussing their issues with having financial trouble because they started at the bottom, then they better be doing so in a way that the students understand that this is normal and what they should expect. If they do not, then the student is free to assume that it's out of the ordinary and when they themselves are in a similar situation they should expect more.
Yes it's a bad economy, and it has been for since the dot com bust, so what. When I picked my profession I attended college and earned my degrees, when I worked I worked my way up, and the entire time I educated myself as to what was needed most in my field. I have never been concerned with being laid off, business acquisitions, or changes in the economy.
I echo one of the previous comments, if you are a teacher then you chose to be, it didn't just happen. That means that you chose to be underpaid, you chose to teach all day and take additional work home with you at night. You chose to keep all your feeling about life out of the classroom and do your job like a professional. If you did not chose any of this then quit because. You're in the wrong profession.
Very touching.

Hang-on while I pull my finger out of my throat.
Over it

New York, NY

#15 Sep 22, 2013
Concerning wrote:
I worked hard and didn't complain about starting at the bottom, now I run my own company. If a teacher is even discussing their issues with having financial trouble because they started at the bottom, then they better be doing so in a way that the students understand that this is normal and what they should expect. If they do not, then the student is free to assume that it's out of the ordinary and when they themselves are in a similar situation they should expect more.

Yes it's a bad economy, and it has been for since the dot com bust, so what. When I picked my profession I attended college and earned my degrees, when I worked I worked my way up, and the entire time I educated myself as to what was needed most in my field. I have never been concerned with being laid off, business acquisitions, or changes in the economy.

I echo one of the previous comments, if you are a teacher then you chose to be, it didn't just happen. That means that you chose to be underpaid, you chose to teach all day and take additional work home with you at night. You chose to keep all your feeling about life out of the classroom and do your job like a professional. If you did not chose any of this then quit because. You're in the wrong profession.
I couldn't possibly agree more!!!
A teachable moment

Albany, NY

#16 Sep 22, 2013
Over it wrote:
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I couldn't possibly agree more!!!
How dumb would it be for a teacher to use real life experiences when interacting with our youth. The kids might actually be interested, feel some connection and remember something useful for life. Wow that would suck.(sarcasm)

Teachers are to keep all their life experiences out of the classroom? Where the fk did you hear that one?
Teachable Moment

New York, NY

#17 Sep 22, 2013
If it were not for tenure, teachers wouldn't able to spew in class to the children. Any teacher who feels they are under paid or over worked are free to seek employment elsewhere. There is a extremely long line of New, Young, Ambitious masters degree youngsters just dieing to get in on O'bama's union gravy train. So if you think you have it so rough for 180 days a year. It's simple..........Leave. This has been a public service announcement brought to you by the Tax Payers.Upyurs Dale

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#18 Sep 22, 2013
Concerning wrote:
I worked hard and didn't complain about starting at the bottom, now I run my own company. If a teacher is even discussing their issues with having financial trouble because they started at the bottom, then they better be doing so in a way that the students understand that this is normal and what they should expect. If they do not, then the student is free to assume that it's out of the ordinary and when they themselves are in a similar situation they should expect more.
Yes it's a bad economy, and it has been for since the dot com bust, so what. When I picked my profession I attended college and earned my degrees, when I worked I worked my way up, and the entire time I educated myself as to what was needed most in my field. I have never been concerned with being laid off, business acquisitions, or changes in the economy.
I echo one of the previous comments, if you are a teacher then you chose to be, it didn't just happen. That means that you chose to be underpaid, you chose to teach all day and take additional work home with you at night. You chose to keep all your feeling about life out of the classroom and do your job like a professional. If you did not chose any of this then quit because. You're in the wrong profession.
Stick to what you know.

What you don't know is, you don't know shhit about teaching.

You do know how to be full of yourself.
You have a much higher opinion of yourself than anyone else does, I'm sure of it. So whatever it is you do (you little educated professional you) you keep at it.
Esteemed Taxpayer

Clinton, NY

#19 Sep 23, 2013
90% of you people are welfare scumbags anyways so don't complain about teachers that contribute to your healthcare, food, housing, cellphones, and heating. Thank you.
Over it

New York, NY

#21 Sep 23, 2013
A teachable moment wrote:
<quoted text>How dumb would it be for a teacher to use real life experiences when interacting with our youth. The kids might actually be interested, feel some connection and remember something useful for life. Wow that would suck.(sarcasm)

Teachers are to keep all their life experiences out of the classroom? Where the fk did you hear that one?
Such an intelligent reply-sarcasm.
highlites ur an asshool

Albany, NY

#22 Sep 23, 2013
Over it wrote:
<quoted text>
I couldn't possibly agree more!!!
How dumb would it be for a teacher to use real life experiences when interacting with our youth. The kids might actually be interested, feel some connection and remember something useful for life. Wow that would suck.(sarcasm)

Teachers are to keep all their life experiences out of the classroom? Where the fk did you hear that one asshool?

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