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I herd they cancelled the game because of drinking
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I herd they cancelled the game because of drinking
The "event" was attended by Herkimer Football players and Mohawk football players as well. Many more other schools and sports teams too. The Ilion Football team was just the first to be punished just because they were there. I'm sure there will be many stories out there but unless people know the complete story I would be careful what is said.
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I herd they cancelled the game because of drinking
nice job mother and daughter! is she on any sport?she better be diciplined as well what the hell was she doing there? WHY WAS SHE THERE??? you didnt do the right thing by turning these kids in when you are just as guilty by being there yourself. video tape yourself while your at it not just everyone around you. what do you think you accomplished by doing this? more kids in area schools involved.nice.thanks bunches
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<quoted text>nice job mother and daughter! is she on any sport?she better be diciplined as well what the hell was she doing there? WHY WAS SHE THERE??? you didnt do the right thing by turning these kids in when you are just as guilty by being there yourself. video tape yourself while your at it not just everyone around you. what do you think you accomplished by doing this? more kids in area schools involved.nice.thanks bunches
lol she got caught already for smoking and got kicked off field hockey so she went n did that
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I have many questions here, I know the story and know that other Ilion sports team members were present at this party. The Ilion team as a whole should not be punished as there were a number of kids that were not present, why not let them play. What about kids from Soccer, X-Crounty? No penalty for them? Why are we only picking on football.

I hope this parent is very proud, she not only ruined a game and maybe even homecoming for the team, but especially cost the uninvolved kids, who did nothing wrong. She also taught her child that vengance is OK!!!

I agree that there should be some punishment for the violation of conduct code, but the school coaches and principal knee jerked this one.

There are a few games left, why not split the kids and make half sit out one and the other half sit out the other, that way each violator is being punished, without cancelling a game and punishing the non-violators! No, now they apparently felt the need to punish the parents, cheerleaders, spectators, sponsors, Frankfort players, etc.
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on youtube yet?
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Just WOW wrote:
I have many questions here, I know the story and know that other Ilion sports team members were present at this party. The Ilion team as a whole should not be punished as there were a number of kids that were not present, why not let them play. What about kids from Soccer, X-Crounty? No penalty for them? Why are we only picking on football.
I hope this parent is very proud, she not only ruined a game and maybe even homecoming for the team, but especially cost the uninvolved kids, who did nothing wrong. She also taught her child that vengance is OK!!!
I agree that there should be some punishment for the violation of conduct code, but the school coaches and principal knee jerked this one.
There are a few games left, why not split the kids and make half sit out one and the other half sit out the other, that way each violator is being punished, without cancelling a game and punishing the non-violators! No, now they apparently felt the need to punish the parents, cheerleaders, spectators, sponsors, Frankfort players, etc.
Stop worry about other people involved and take responsibility for your own actions! Apparently they felt the need to punish the parents and cheerleaders? Are you kidding me? The cheerleaders where there and a lot of the parents of the football players knew their kids where there!

I think the best solution was the one game forfeit, if they didn't take the punishment as a team, each violator would have been suspend for a game and a half. Ilion is too thin this year to split the suspensions of over 20 kids up between 2 games if it was a one penalty, let alone a game and a half. Also, isn't better to get this over with and move on? Hopefully the kids will learn from this, but not if mommy and daddy place the blame elsewhere.

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Stop worry about other people involved and take responsibility for your own actions! Apparently they felt the need to punish the parents and cheerleaders? Are you kidding me? The cheerleaders where there and a lot of the parents of the football players knew their kids where there!
I think the best solution was the one game forfeit, if they didn't take the punishment as a team, each violator would have been suspend for a game and a half. Ilion is too thin this year to split the suspensions of over 20 kids up between 2 games if it was a one penalty, let alone a game and a half. Also, isn't better to get this over with and move on? Hopefully the kids will learn from this, but not if mommy and daddy place the blame elsewhere.
Sorry, your way off base. The punishment could have been split between two games with plenty of players left.

Your trying to say that all of the parents are to blame? I hardly thing that more than a few parents knew anything about this until last night. You seem to know more than anyone else. Yes, I am a football parent and do take offense at some of your statements. Yes, I am upset that innocent kids were grouped in with the rest.
Since you seem to know all, who was there, what parents knew, the punishment options, what about other sports which had players there, will they receive a forfeit or suspension, just to keep things equal?
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Sorry, your way off base. The punishment could have been split between two games with plenty of players left.
Your trying to say that all of the parents are to blame? I hardly thing that more than a few parents knew anything about this until last night. You seem to know more than anyone else. Yes, I am a football parent and do take offense at some of your statements. Yes, I am upset that innocent kids were grouped in with the rest.
Since you seem to know all, who was there, what parents knew, the punishment options, what about other sports which had players there, will they receive a forfeit or suspension, just to keep things equal?
You are way off base! This is the problem with parents today, it's never the kids' fault! Don't worry about the other sports or other kids, take care of you own. I do feel bad for the innocent kids, but 2/3s of the team admitted to drinking. The kids are lucky this wasn't 30 years ago because their season would be over and the rest of the year for other sports.
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You are way off base! This is the problem with parents today, it's never the kids' fault! Don't worry about the other sports or other kids, take care of you own. I do feel bad for the innocent kids, but 2/3s of the team admitted to drinking. The kids are lucky this wasn't 30 years ago because their season would be over and the rest of the year for other sports.
do you understand what you are replying to? who said its never the kids fault. parents have it alot harder today than back in your stone age. go change your moth balls.
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<quoted text>do you understand what you are replying to? who said its never the kids fault. parents have it alot harder today than back in your stone age. go change your moth balls.
It has never been easy raising kids, but if it makes you feel better blaming on something else, go ahead. Read my post, I said parents need to make their kids take responsibility for their actions, the above poster was not.
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Are you kidding wrote:
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You are way off base! This is the problem with parents today, it's never the kids' fault! Don't worry about the other sports or other kids, take care of you own. I do feel bad for the innocent kids, but 2/3s of the team admitted to drinking. The kids are lucky this wasn't 30 years ago because their season would be over and the rest of the year for other sports.
You are right. I remember a superintendent announcing that he was cancelling all sports until the kids turned in a certain perpetrator who caused a permanent injury to a kid on an opposing team by throwing a rock at their bus. The perpetrator was not a team member. The team members didn't know who did it. But, they sure stepped up and found out and turned the kid in.

Stop worrying about the punishment and start thinking about the safety of everyone and teaching respect for the law.
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It has never been easy raising kids, but if it makes you feel better blaming on something else, go ahead. Read my post, I said parents need to make their kids take responsibility for their actions, the above poster was not.
so what is responsibility for their action, supporting the kids who maybe didnt realize what they were getting into? blaming it on what? im sorry i dont get you. i said it is alot harder raising kids in todays world and only continuing to get harder. NOT BLAMING SOMETHING ELSE. thank you. now i feel better. open your eyes because unlike your belief many kids do take responsibility for their own actions and they are taking responsibility as we speak.sounds to me as if you dont like youth especially the parenting today, period. more than likely you dont have children.
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back in the day we (football team)drank after every game,we got a keg and went behind my house got drunk then we would go beat up some kid that was alone.
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<quoted text>so what is responsibility for their action, supporting the kids who maybe didnt realize what they were getting into? blaming it on what? im sorry i dont get you. i said it is alot harder raising kids in todays world and only continuing to get harder. NOT BLAMING SOMETHING ELSE. thank you. now i feel better. open your eyes because unlike your belief many kids do take responsibility for their own actions and they are taking responsibility as we speak.sounds to me as if you dont like youth especially the parenting today, period. more than likely you dont have children.
What do you mean they didn't realize what they were getting into?
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Sep 28, 2012
 
I don't see anyone here saying kids or parents shouldn't take responsibility. I see support for the kids that were not involved and the idea that punishment should be even handed.

If a kids make a conscious choice to do the right thing and not attend the party, another poster here is saying they too should be punished, along with the guilty kids. I say no, it doesn't teach the kids that good choices are rewarded.

Also heard the entire season might be cancelled, apparently the Superintendant is having a meeting with players today.

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Well one good things came out of it.

We all know now that Ilion, Herkimer and Mohawk kids will apparently get together fine when/if the merger happens.

They can party together with no fights or bullying!!
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I don't see anyone here saying kids or parents shouldn't take responsibility. I see support for the kids that were not involved and the idea that punishment should be even handed.
If a kids make a conscious choice to do the right thing and not attend the party, another poster here is saying they too should be punished, along with the guilty kids. I say no, it doesn't teach the kids that good choices are rewarded.
Also heard the entire season might be cancelled, apparently the Superintendant is having a meeting with players today.
I didn't say the innocent should be punished, but you can't field a team with 13 kids who made the right choice. It's unfortunate that 2/3s of the kids made the wrong choice. I would be pissed at my teammates, not the administration, the other poster was blaming the administration for the punishment.
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Wowza wrote:
I don't see anyone here saying kids or parents shouldn't take responsibility. I see support for the kids that were not involved and the idea that punishment should be even handed.
If a kids make a conscious choice to do the right thing and not attend the party, another poster here is saying they too should be punished, along with the guilty kids. I say no, it doesn't teach the kids that good choices are rewarded.
Also heard the entire season might be cancelled, apparently the Superintendant is having a meeting with players today.
Cancelling the game was not part of the punishment. It is not unusual for there to be unintended consequences and innocent victims when kids make poor choices. That is a good life lesson.

Missing a game is not the end of the world. It's only a game. The casual attitude about underage drinking is a bigger concern.
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What do you mean they didn't realize what they were getting into?
ya think all the kids went to this gathering, meeting, or do i dare say the word PARTY to drink? be video taped by a girl scorned? break the code of conduct? ruin their football season? I THINK NOT! have you ever been in a situation that you realize wasnt a good one like some of these kids? of course you have. well too bad. you went to simply check it out, see some friends, meet some new,not steal or harrass anyone and now you realize you probably should have partied, smiled for the camera, burned your jersey, and thought the code of conduct was a joke because your guilty by association. thats what breaks the kids down. i am going to discipline my kid for being a kid, seriously. remember not all kids are bad, not all parents deny responsibility and not all are guilty. thats what the posts are saying.and i might add the guilty kids are a bunch of great kids that made a bad choice, it happens and wanna know a secret? its probably gonna happen again!!!

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