high school drop outs

high school drop outs

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curious

United States

#1 Oct 1, 2012
If a teen makes a mistake the school expels them for 9 Weeks are we giving them a vacation? is there another choice the parents could have? There are times kids need 2nd chances. How is this going to HELP this child?
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#2 Oct 1, 2012
CURIOUS, IT IS A DUMB WAY TO PUISH A CHILD. THAT CHILD SHOULD BE SENT TO A ROOOM WHERE HE OR SHE KEEPS THEIR STUDIES UP AND IS TAUGHT JSUT AS IF THEY WERE IN THEIR REGULAR CLASES. aND IT SHOULD BE FOUND OUT BY THE SCHOOOL WHY the child acted out and WHAT WAS the cause of it. No expelling from teh school or classes. And I do not believe in whipping a kid either. You seek out a cause and find a cure for that cause. I use to retaiate against the other kids when they made fun of my clothes --had few of them --was to dang poor to buy them. When you wear flour sack under wear other kids think its funny--thing about it I becam proud of thsoe flour sack under wear ---my mother made them by hand. After learning and becoming a little wiser of why I wore them I started wearing them with pride. Even though they had flowers on them. Just some explaining done the trick --nearly no more fights. Have a nice dayas I am, GOD BLESS. As my mother told me a wise prson can find a cure for just about anything.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#3 Oct 1, 2012
I think My mother could even explain a cure to Romney and his thinking about the 47 percenters.
Sunrise

United States

#4 Oct 2, 2012
curious wrote:
If a teen makes a mistake the school expels them for 9 Weeks are we giving them a vacation? is there another choice the parents could have? There are times kids need 2nd chances. How is this going to HELP this child?
Do we coddle and give in to the one causing trouble at the expense of the rest of the class? Or do we let the student learn a lesson by expelling?
would like to know

United States

#5 Oct 2, 2012
Why is it the school's responsibility to find out what is troubling the student? Why the extra expense of an additional teacher, classroom, etc., when there is already classroom available? Why do the other students have to be exposed to the trouble that is caused, the interruptions in class, because a student is acting up?

Why is this not being handled at home as it should be? When I was in school, if a teacher had a problem with my behaviour, my father rectified that situation immediately. Whether you believe in punishment by the rod or not, there is no excuse for anyone's child to be causing trouble at school.

That is part of this country's problems, it has been decided that the school is responsible for so many things that use to be handled at home. The school has to be babysitter, psychologist, behaviouralist, nutrionist, the list goes on.

Maybe if society insisted that parents make their children behave in public, impress upon their children how important an education really is to their future, maybe this country would not be lagging behind other countries in education levels.

If parents were more involved with their children, maybe they would not be so apt to bully others who in turn might kill their children.

We cannot become a socialistic country where government is responsible for everything, including raising our children. The basics should begin at home, not at school. School is for the 3 R's, and it is not fair to my child(ren) that the unruly ones interrupt their lessons.
would like to know

United States

#6 Oct 2, 2012
If a child is expelled, for whatever length of time, then maybe the parent(s) should make sure their child does not have a vaction?
Sunrise

United States

#7 Oct 2, 2012
would like to know wrote:
Why is it the school's responsibility to find out what is troubling the student? Why the extra expense of an additional teacher, classroom, etc., when there is already classroom available? Why do the other students have to be exposed to the trouble that is caused, the interruptions in class, because a student is acting up?
Why is this not being handled at home as it should be? When I was in school, if a teacher had a problem with my behaviour, my father rectified that situation immediately. Whether you believe in punishment by the rod or not, there is no excuse for anyone's child to be causing trouble at school.
That is part of this country's problems, it has been decided that the school is responsible for so many things that use to be handled at home. The school has to be babysitter, psychologist, behaviouralist, nutrionist, the list goes on.
Maybe if society insisted that parents make their children behave in public, impress upon their children how important an education really is to their future, maybe this country would not be lagging behind other countries in education levels.
If parents were more involved with their children, maybe they would not be so apt to bully others who in turn might kill their children.
We cannot become a socialistic country where government is responsible for everything, including raising our children. The basics should begin at home, not at school. School is for the 3 R's, and it is not fair to my child(ren) that the unruly ones interrupt their lessons.
Well said.
would like to know

United States

#8 Oct 2, 2012
Why is this thread not being kept on the board?
Community Member

United States

#9 Oct 2, 2012
Students can't spend time in prison or the county jail for stealing, drinking alcohol on school grounds or possession of drugs so they are suspended. Where are the parents? Does anyone want the other students to be exposed to these illegal actions?
idabel okie

Chandler, OK

#10 Oct 3, 2012
Unfortunately, Would Like to Know is living in a dream world....many, MANY children do not have two loving, concerned parents at home to teach them how to act. Single mothers, often having to work a full-time, low-paying job, are not at home much of the time; and when they DO get home they are too busy getting meals ready, cleaning up, and feeling exhausted to sit down with the children and talk to them. This is just reality. It is a shame, but it is reality.
So the schools get kids who have not learned good social skills, good study habits, or just the basics of how to get along with others.
What are the schools to do?
would like to know

United States

#11 Oct 3, 2012
Again, excuses. Our society is good at making excuses. Why is it the world's responsibility to "fix" what is wrong with our families? Why do people continue making babies if they are not adult enough to make commitments to each other, and do what is right to raise their children in a two parent home?

It begins with the individual making the decision to do what is right, not just what feels good at the moment. Why do we not hold people accountable for their actions? Why do we continue to coddle, make excuses, enable, these individuals who just want to do what feels good at the moment?

Until we as a society start holding people accountable for their actions in all areas of life, our society will continue to plummet as it is now. Our schools will end up being holding cells for children who were born to people who only want to do what feels good at the moment.

Why is it socially unacceptable to stand up and make this statement..."I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF PEOPLE'S EXCUSES FOR THEIR ACTIONS, IT IS TIME FOR THEM TO START DOING WHAT IS RIGHT"???!!!

I raised 3 children in a house that was torn apart by drugs, I did it without welfare, food stamps. I worked fulltime at the same job for 25 years, and had many different part-time jobs. If and when my child acted up at school, they received their punishment there and at home. My children had their ups and downs, but they are now all married, raising the children they brought into this world, and they are not accepting handouts either. And their children will no doubt test the boundaries with them. But I gave them the foundation they needed to build on. I did not demand society to take care of my problems.

So no, I do not live in a dream world. I live in reality. Don't tell me it can't be done. C'ANT NEVER TRIED.

What are the schools to do? How about what are parents going to do?

Since: Sep 12

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#12 Oct 3, 2012
Community Member wrote:
Students can't spend time in prison or the county jail for stealing, drinking alcohol on school grounds or possession of drugs so they are suspended. Where are the parents? Does anyone want the other students to be exposed to these illegal actions?
google (child arrested for school tantrum)

Your children do not belong to you, they belong to the state. You are just the care givers. That is the purpose for birth certificates. If a child's parents die, who is in charge?

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#13 Oct 3, 2012
Seems like everyone is depending on someone or something else to take care of and teach their children. Then wonder why they can't control their behavior.

would like to know is right, it should be handled at home.
Sunrise

United States

#14 Oct 3, 2012
would like to know wrote:
Again, excuses. Our society is good at making excuses. Why is it the world's responsibility to "fix" what is wrong with our families? Why do people continue making babies if they are not adult enough to make commitments to each other, and do what is right to raise their children in a two parent home?
It begins with the individual making the decision to do what is right, not just what feels good at the moment. Why do we not hold people accountable for their actions? Why do we continue to coddle, make excuses, enable, these individuals who just want to do what feels good at the moment?
Until we as a society start holding people accountable for their actions in all areas of life, our society will continue to plummet as it is now. Our schools will end up being holding cells for children who were born to people who only want to do what feels good at the moment.
Why is it socially unacceptable to stand up and make this statement..."I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF PEOPLE'S EXCUSES FOR THEIR ACTIONS, IT IS TIME FOR THEM TO START DOING WHAT IS RIGHT"???!!!
I raised 3 children in a house that was torn apart by drugs, I did it without welfare, food stamps. I worked fulltime at the same job for 25 years, and had many different part-time jobs. If and when my child acted up at school, they received their punishment there and at home. My children had their ups and downs, but they are now all married, raising the children they brought into this world, and they are not accepting handouts either. And their children will no doubt test the boundaries with them. But I gave them the foundation they needed to build on. I did not demand society to take care of my problems.
So no, I do not live in a dream world. I live in reality. Don't tell me it can't be done. C'ANT NEVER TRIED.
What are the schools to do? How about what are parents going to do?
Well said. I know a few single-parent families that have well-behaved, responsible children. Some of those children have now grown into well-balanced adults. Some of these parents were left with the sole responsiblity of raising young children because of an untimely death of their spouse.
would like to know

United States

#15 Oct 3, 2012
You are right Sunshine, there are many single parents (mother or father) who are raising their children by themselves due to very unfortunate circumstances. Yet they do it responsibly and without excuses. And their children do behave, and are respectable in society. Not all are products of broken homes, alcohol, drug abuse, and the children grow up to be very productive citizens.

But so many times, children who are acting up in school are the result of parents who really don't care. These parents just want to make excuses and get all the handouts they can. Or else society wants to make excuses for them and enable them to continue their lifestyle.

It starts at home, if you don't want to be a father, or a mother, don't have sex, it is that simple. It takes both a man and a woman to make a baby, and it is those same two people who are responsible for the livelihood, the wellbeing, the happiness, and the future of that child. Not society. If your relationship does not work out, at least do what is best for your child, be a parent, and don't expect the world to do it for you.

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