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Minn. school sued over student's anti-abortion shirts

There are 38 comments on the TwinCities.com story from May 30, 2008, titled Minn. school sued over student's anti-abortion shirts. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

A Hutchinson woman is suing the local school district, claiming officials warned her son against wearing anti-abortion T-shirts and made him turn them inside out.

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Small Business owner

Minneapolis, MN

#22 Aug 19, 2008
City woman wrote:
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No, that's what it means to the folks who established state and federal laws requiring accommodation for religious beliefs.
Its all open to interpretation. Reasonable accomodation.
City woman

Saint Paul, MN

#23 Aug 19, 2008
Small Business owner wrote:
<quoted text>If they are Wiccan, can they wear a dead rabbit around their neck?
Red herring.

Are you proposing banning cross necklaces or earrings?
Small Business owner

Minneapolis, MN

#24 Aug 19, 2008
City woman wrote:
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Red herring.
Are you proposing banning cross necklaces or earrings?
I would have no problem with banning cross necklaces, cross earrings, heck, any jewelry in school.
Small Business owner

Minneapolis, MN

#25 Aug 19, 2008
City woman wrote:
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Red herring.
Are you proposing banning cross necklaces or earrings?
You already can get suspended for bringing a plastic butter knife in your lunch bag.
City woman

Saint Paul, MN

#26 Aug 19, 2008
Small Business owner wrote:
<quoted text>Its all open to interpretation. Reasonable accomodation.
Exactly. And if you read the court cases that I posted on the other thread, you'll see that courts have often concluded that reasonable accommodation includes allowing headscarves and/or burkhas. Of course, those were mostly employment cases, not school cases; as long as it didn't interfere with the work, it was a reasonable accommodation.

Are we really going to rehash this whole discussion, which has taken up ~900 posts on the other headscarf thread?
City woman

Saint Paul, MN

#27 Aug 19, 2008
Small Business owner wrote:
<quoted text>You already can get suspended for bringing a plastic butter knife in your lunch bag.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? I agree it's ridiculous, though. You can also get suspended for hugging another student, which is equally lame.
muslim wife

Saint Paul, MN

#28 Aug 19, 2008
City woman wrote:
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Exactly. And if you read the court cases that I posted on the other thread, you'll see that courts have often concluded that reasonable accommodation includes allowing headscarves and/or burkhas. Of course, those were mostly employment cases, not school cases; as long as it didn't interfere with the work, it was a reasonable accommodation.
Are we really going to rehash this whole discussion, which has taken up ~900 posts on the other headscarf thread?
I sure hope not. But, one thing I still can't understand, is why people are so intolerant of each other? Is it really hurting anyone, if xyz wants to wear a cross necklace, a yamika, a scarf or a burka? If it is not directly affecting your life, then why do you care? Me, personally, to each his own.
Wondering

Kennewick, WA

#29 Aug 19, 2008
I know of no religion that requires the followers to wear anti-abortion clothes. Does anyone here know of one?
Small Business owner

Minneapolis, MN

#30 Aug 19, 2008
City woman wrote:
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Exactly. And if you read the court cases that I posted on the other thread, you'll see that courts have often concluded that reasonable accommodation includes allowing headscarves and/or burkhas. Of course, those were mostly employment cases, not school cases; as long as it didn't interfere with the work, it was a reasonable accommodation.
Are we really going to rehash this whole discussion, which has taken up ~900 posts on the other headscarf thread?
It only took up about 100 of those posts, the rest were you, consistent, muslim wife, etc. bashing each other.
Small Business owner

Minneapolis, MN

#31 Aug 19, 2008
I meant all of you bashing consistent, of course him lashing out first.
Small Business owner

Minneapolis, MN

#32 Aug 19, 2008
Wondering wrote:
I know of no religion that requires the followers to wear anti-abortion clothes. Does anyone here know of one?
Same amendment that allows freedom of religion allows freedom of speech. Take your pick
City woman

Saint Paul, MN

#33 Aug 19, 2008
Small Business owner wrote:
I meant all of you bashing consistent, of course him lashing out first.
True, true. That one got derailed many times. But in between the attacks there were some good points raised, and some good, adult discussion prevailed....for a while.

For the record, I'm also pro-uniforms at public schools. I think it would help immensely with behavior problems, with distractions, with displaying gang colors or political messages, etc. I just think that if someone's religion requires them to wear a particular symbol, and if it isn't hurting anyone, they should be able to do so. I can wear my cross, someone else can wear their scarf, whatever. To each their own on that one.
Enouph

Saint Paul, MN

#34 Aug 20, 2008
City woman, muslim wife and consistent can you guys please take all of your crap back to the headscarf thread and contain it to just that one thread. You don't need to take over another topic with your BS bantering.
Enouph

Saint Paul, MN

#35 Aug 20, 2008
City woman wrote:
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Exactly. And if you read the court cases that I posted on the other thread, you'll see that courts have often concluded that reasonable accommodation includes allowing headscarves and/or burkhas. Of course, those were mostly employment cases, not school cases; as long as it didn't interfere with the work, it was a reasonable accommodation.
Are we really going to rehash this whole discussion, which has taken up ~900 posts on the other headscarf thread?
YOU were one of the main idiots on that thread, chick
The Original Kacy

Minneapolis, MN

#36 Aug 20, 2008
I've been in favor of uniforms in public schools for a long time. My thought is there would be no concern over who had what brand of jeans, whose shirt said what, etc., etc. I'm all for free speech at the appropriate place and time, and I don't think during class at a public school is the appropriate place or time. I think it causes a huge distraction. Uniforms are the way to go. If no uniforms, then a strict dress code. (And, as I said, I would feel the same way if this story was about someone wearing a pro-choice shirt to school - I think that's a distraction as much as a pro-life shirt - it's a very sensitive issue to a lot of people and while debate can be a good thing, wearing a shirt that you know is going to upset 50% of your classmates is not).
Small Business owner

Minneapolis, MN

#37 Aug 21, 2008
City woman wrote:
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True, true. That one got derailed many times. But in between the attacks there were some good points raised, and some good, adult discussion prevailed....for a while.
For the record, I'm also pro-uniforms at public schools. I think it would help immensely with behavior problems, with distractions, with displaying gang colors or political messages, etc. I just think that if someone's religion requires them to wear a particular symbol, and if it isn't hurting anyone, they should be able to do so. I can wear my cross, someone else can wear their scarf, whatever. To each their own on that one.
Since public schools are an extension of the state, I would rather just keep all expressions of religion out. Earrings are much smaller and obvious than a headscarf or bhurka, but if it comes down to that, fine. Could always allow crescent moon earrings in addition to cross.........although if you ban the christian jewelry, must ban the other jewelry too. Whatever it takes to keep religion out of the public schools. If somebody wants religious accomodation at school, there are private schools for that.
Kira is God

Springfield, MN

#38 Aug 21, 2008
Freedom of speech is going down the hole.

I own many pro-choice t-shirts and pro-abortion t-shirts and actually had worn them quiet often in school. There not a distraction. My friends, teachers and other 'classmates' didn't care at all. People who get offended need to cut themselves from mommies ambilical cord and grow up. What have we come to? Honestly its sick how much we have to HIDE ourselves in order to live in this society. I would of told the school to let me go for the day and would of called my lawyer and filed discrimination, because thats the kind of country this is! Haha!

KiRa Is GoD!
Wondering

United States

#39 Aug 24, 2008
Kira how do you know it was not a distraction? And if it isn't a distraction why wear it? It's only reason is to draw attention to a topic which should be left at home. As for freedom of speech in schools there are many things you can do at home that are against the rules at school and there are reasons schools have the rules they do. That fact that it violated school policy, if you feel the policy is wrong then you take it up with the school before you break the rules.

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