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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#69351 Mar 14, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
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The National Gallery in Washington DC. a publicly funded institution, is home to a fine collection of Byzantine religious artifacts as well as religious-themed art from dozens of artists, including Rembrandt, Raphael and Rubens. And it's not typically considered to be a religious institution.
yes, but people do not come to WORSHIP in front of those pieces of art. They are accepted as art, religious art, but not as subjects to worship with. Thats the difference. If the cross was just art, I would be fine with it. But it is intended as a memorial, as sacred worship space.

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#69352 Mar 14, 2014
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. And it's not typically considered to be a religious institution.
I missed that last sentence. Thats exactly what i was saying. The 911 crosses, as I understand it, is intended as a religious institution. Place for prayer.

My way of dealing with it, as I posted yesterday, is to display it but dont present signage encouraging public worship. If people want to pray in front of it, or eat popcorn in front of it, I could care less.But I hold the line at active marketing. The same for the gorgeous Byzantine artifacts.

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#69353 Mar 14, 2014
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The National Gallery in Washington DC. a publicly funded institution, is home to a fine collection of Byzantine religious artifacts as well as religious-themed art from dozens of artists, including Rembrandt, Raphael and Rubens. And it's not typically considered to be a religious institution.
Frijoles pretty much explained it. The cross is not being presented as art or historic artifact. If it were, no issue here. But, no honest person is clinging to that false pretense. The cross is meant as an active religious symbol on "sacred" ground. In essence, they've built an active shrine.

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#69354 Mar 14, 2014
Why don't people here take objection to public displays of silly religious symbols like the MENORAH in secular democracies? Even if it is done during HANUKKAH to publicize the bull-shit miracle of the event it should be banned.

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#69355 Mar 14, 2014
Candle lighting ceremonies of stupid religious symbols like Menorahs should be banned.

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#69356 Mar 14, 2014
There should be no public display of any religious symbol.

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#69357 Mar 14, 2014
JEWISH STUDENTS LAG BEHIND

Concessions given to Jewish students in admission to elite or not-so-elite universities in the US should be discontinued when the evidence shows that the SAT scores of Jewish students are inferior and not on par with the top performing students who're overwhelmingly non-Jewish. Besides, at university and at national/international competitions in Math, Physics and Chemistry, Jewish students perform quite miserably and are no where near the top. So, communal quotas in education should be banned. The Jewish founders of the universities, who insist on quotas for Jewish students, should be restrained by law. Admission to university education courses should be based only on merit.

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#69358 Mar 14, 2014
Funds gifted by wealthy donors should be received by university authorities without strings attached. If a person wishes to make a huge donation to a university he should so without insisting on communal biases or on anything that will dilute the criterion of fair and free play. Everything should be done in such a manner so as to promote merit, excellence, transparency and accountability.

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#69359 Mar 14, 2014
The White House should stop the non-secular practice of hosting religious ceremonies or of celebrating religious festivals. Religion is best left to private practice.

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#69360 Mar 14, 2014
Governments who're committed to the noble cause of the separation of state from religion should not pander in any way to the religious sentiments of any group of believers and besides official dealings with the world's theocracies should be reviewed.

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#69361 Mar 14, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
...Either way, if the door is to be opened, I strongly believe that any group should have a chance. If they want to locate Satans throne (out of rubble, of course) I am all for that.
You mean like this?...

http://tinyurl.com/kbqdz6m

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#69362 Mar 14, 2014
3/14

Happy International Pi Day everyone.
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#69363 Mar 14, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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I have only owned 3 new cars in my life, and probably a dozen or more used cars. However, I have always paid for the new cars in cash - also dont believe in payments.
Agree. Haven't had a car loan since I was a teenager.

If I can't afford it, I don't buy it (other than a house of course). And at least one can deduct that interest.
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#69364 Mar 14, 2014
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Wars have been fought, and people have been slaughtered in the name of religious proselytizing (or what you call, marketing). Totally different history than the car industry. If Nissan had a history of persecuting others, I would advocate banning or at least limiting their outreach activities as well.
In terms of a comparison, I would guard against letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Ever hear of a fatal car-jacking?

But really, if you were looking to convert others to Christianity, which other religion would you begin with? Who makes more sense than targeting those who have already bought into the first part of the book and the underlying story?

I wouldn't bother with atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus., Wiccans....
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#69365 Mar 14, 2014
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I, too, see this as a pragmatic issue, only, I take the opposite position as you. Allowing one exception opens the door to allowing more exceptions, and it becomes an issue of practicality. Best to avoid the issue all together by not allowing it in the first place.
FWIW - Based on some of the blogs I read, the atheist community (as loosely defined as they are) are split fairly evenly on this issue.
Stephen Colbert did a funny take on this issue, though, of course, I disagree with him this one time (hey, nobody's perfect)...
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/...
I love that guy. He mentioned the other night that he was an altar boy for 11 years - must have gotten started young. And it should be noted that he's playing an O'Reilly-like character on his show and doesn't half the crap he says.

But I do understand the slippery slope argument and that's valid. I may look back and wish I had said more "when they come for me..."
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#69366 Mar 14, 2014
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And they make the BEST shaving brushes. I have three (brushes, not honey badgers).
I saw a nature show on them that really amazed me.

On of them was in a pen and was placing a long handled metal shovel up against the side at an angle use to escape.

But the shovel was too hot so it doused the whole shovel in a water trough first and THEN placed it an angle do it could walk up and out of the pen.

We had a dog (Beagle) that pushed kitchen stools across the floor in order to get up on the counter to get to food, but it was the cooling the shovel in the water that really impressed me about the fury little future shaving brush!

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#69367 Mar 14, 2014
Advance greetings for the next SQUARE ROOT DAY (4/4/16).
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#69368 Mar 14, 2014
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You mean like this?...
http://tinyurl.com/kbqdz6m
But do they have anymore evidence for Satan then they do for the Easter Bunny?

:))

Count me as agnostic atheist on both.

ps...Ugly image BTW! Singularly unpleasant.

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#69369 Mar 14, 2014
pi = 4A/d^2, where d =diameter of a circle. LOL.

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#69370 Mar 14, 2014
One of the many images of Satan is of Baphomet stationed against a pentagram. Such terrible vibes radiating from that symbol of Satan posted by the senile dunce, COR. Yuck!

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