Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#69145 Mar 10, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
1. How someone could store weaponry in their places of worship in the name of their religion. Doesnt strike me as advancing religious values.At least those religious values that uphold the sanctity of life.

2. So you are not excluding "political" persecution as a basis for legitimacy for taking the lives of innocent others?

3. But I think this is fertile ground for introspection - so I take issue with your notion of "who knows?". If someone was blowing up innocents in the name of MY religion, I would damn well be wondering why.
Ans.

1. You are saying as if Jewish Synagogues and Christian Churches NEVER EVER had any weapons stored in them in all this time? Trying to grow bunny ears, are you?

2. Why are you twisting my words and making me say, which I did not say?

I said Islam is against killing of innocent men, women and children. Any one doing this is doing one of biggest of the big sins in Islam.

3. Are not your Police and Army killing innocent men , women and children in Palestine ? Why are you trying to act like an angel?

What are doing to stop that killing?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69147 Mar 10, 2014
HughBe---Muslim is a follower of a RELIGION called Islam.

Frijoles---Did you have to go to school to learn that?

HughBe--- No but school is a place for learning. It is not as you believe a place to show other boys your pencil.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69148 Mar 10, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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And I must be Mexican because posters NEVER make up screen names.
Son, prove that you are a Jew.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69149 Mar 10, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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And Santa Claus is from Ethiopia
HughBe--- Jews can be Muslims.

Frijoles---And Santa Claus is from Ethiopia

HughBe--- Stop listening to your rabbis and seek light and TRUTH, for a change.

Now, Dr. Frijoles please explain the text that comes next and link it to your nonsense.

Lesson: The period in question below is over 300 YEARS. Now tell me, were the Tribe of Dan Israelites based on your man-made doctrine?

"And the children of Dan set up the graven image: and Jonathan, the son of Gershom, the son of Manasseh, he and his sons were priests to the tribe of Dan until the day of the captivity of the land.

31 And they set them up Micah's graven image, which he made, all the time that the house of God was in Shiloh."
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69150 Mar 10, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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You, of all people, having a shiny tushy, should know that that race is an outdated concept. I believe you mean "people".
Why are the only people who still use the race concept those that are former subjects of the British empire? What irony/
Let me change it to make you comfortable. Jews are PHYSICAL DESCENDANTS of a man called Israel.

Now, the land of Israel was given to these people and NOT to converts to a religion that did NOT exist when the covenant was made with Abraham and which was confirmed with his SEED meaning Isaac and Israel.

How are CONVERTS to Judaism assigned to the 12 tribes by your overlords? Do they have FULL rights to land given that they are now JEWS?

Answer my questions.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69151 Mar 10, 2014
Former---Jewishness is not a race.

HughBe--- Really? Tell me who is the first Jew. Use Jewish sources to support your answer. What did the Jews of the bible have in common?

Hint: is it COMMON ANCESTRY and BIOLOGY?

Do all whites have common ancestry as Jews have and so can trace genealogy? Do you think that Biological relatives have a racial connection to each other?

Are you of the same race as your siblings?

Former---Jewishness is an ethnic heritage and/or a religion.

HughBe--- You are a victim of DECEPTION. Being Jewish has NOTHING to do with RELIGION and the least of which is Judaism.

When did the religion /Judaism start? Did Jews/Israelites exist prior to Judaism? If yes, explain your crap about Jews and religion. Did Jews exists for HUNDREDS of years prior to Moses and the giving of the law?

When did Judaism come into being? Hint: it did NOT start with Moses.

Sages of Judaism have said that not even Moses would recognize things attributed to him. Do you understand the implications of these words? Explain the implications.

Lesson: Jesus was a Jew. He is the foundation of the RELIGION called Christianity.

Jesus' disciples were ALL Jews. Now go make the links.

Former---But Joel doesn't claim to be religious unless you count his devout observance of abstinence.

HughBe--- Religion has nothing to do with BIOLOGY. The link is CRIMINAL in my mind and should be treated accordingly, is my opinion.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69152 Mar 10, 2014
Good night
Rana

Mumbai, India

#69153 Mar 10, 2014
JOEL BIPOLAR BASTARD. Super Snob. Die. Many will be happy.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#69155 Mar 11, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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Let me change it to make you comfortable. Jews are PHYSICAL DESCENDANTS of a man called Israel.
Now, the land of Israel was given to these people and NOT to converts to a religion that did NOT exist when the covenant was made with Abraham and which was confirmed with his SEED meaning Isaac and Israel.
How are CONVERTS to Judaism assigned to the 12 tribes by your overlords? Do they have FULL rights to land given that they are now JEWS?
Answer my questions.
We have three tribes left (that I know about about). Membership within each one is patrilineal (though Jewishness itself is matrilineal)..I honestly have no idea how we handle converts regarding tribal membership, I will ask around. Yes, they are still considered Jews with all obligations.

Questions mainly answered

Does your tush still shine?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#69156 Mar 11, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- Jews can be Muslims.
Frijoles---And Santa Claus is from Ethiopia
HughBe--- Stop listening to your rabbis and seek light and TRUTH, for a change.
Now, Dr. Frijoles please explain the text that comes next and link it to your nonsense.
Lesson: The period in question below is over 300 YEARS. Now tell me, were the Tribe of Dan Israelites based on your man-made doctrine?
"And the children of Dan set up the graven image: and Jonathan, the son of Gershom, the son of Manasseh, he and his sons were priests to the tribe of Dan until the day of the captivity of the land.
31 And they set them up Micah's graven image, which he made, all the time that the house of God was in Shiloh."
I am proud of you - you know how to read your KJV

I would be more proud of you if you would cite it in the actual native language though.

maybe next time?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#69157 Mar 11, 2014
Sheena wrote:
Name - Joel
Family - Baghdadi Jews.
My understanding is that there were at least 3 divisions of the Iraqis. Sephardim (Judeo-Spanish), Mizrachim (descendants of the original diaspora), and Kurdish (also of the original diaspora). I wonder which one. I wonder which one?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#69158 Mar 11, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Former---But Joel doesn't claim to be religious unless you count his devout observance of abstinence.
HughBe--- Religion has nothing to do with BIOLOGY. The link is CRIMINAL in my mind and should be treated accordingly, is my opinion.
lol

Homosexuality is criminal in your mind as well. And we see where that gets you.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#69159 Mar 11, 2014
HughBe wrote:
When did Judaism come into being? Hint: it did NOT start with Moses.
Judaism started with Moses.

And originally there were 15 commandments but he dropped one of the (3) tablets and it smashed into pieces.

I saw this in a movie.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#69160 Mar 11, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
We have three tribes left (that I know about about). Membership within each one is patrilineal (though Jewishness itself is matrilineal)..I honestly have no idea how we handle converts regarding tribal membership, I will ask around. Yes, they are still considered Jews with all obligations.
Questions mainly answered
Does your tush still shine?
At its center, it's bright pink.

Or so I imagine.

:))

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#69161 Mar 11, 2014
former res wrote:
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Judaism started with Moses.
And originally there were 15 commandments but he dropped one of the (3) tablets and it smashed into pieces.
I saw this in a movie.
chuckle

Did stupidity start with Hughbe?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#69162 Mar 11, 2014
HughBe wrote:
HughBe--- You are a victim of DECEPTION. Being Jewish has NOTHING to do with RELIGION and the least of which is Judaism.
.
I challenge you to find real live Jews in Jamaica and say that to them.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#69163 Mar 11, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>I challenge you to find real live Jews in Jamaica and say that to them.
You really want him to get his arse kicked, huh?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#69164 Mar 11, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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Son, prove that you are a Jew.
I recommend a massage by a nice brawny young man, with a "happy ending". It should bring you the same level of satisfaction.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#69165 Mar 11, 2014
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
1. You are saying as if Jewish Synagogues and Christian Churches NEVER EVER had any weapons stored in them in all this time? Trying to grow bunny ears, are you?
Was not aware that synagogues had been used as warehouses for weapons. Please do share, if this is your counter accusation.

Can't speak for churches, obviously.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>2. Why are you twisting my words and making me say, which I did not say?
I said Islam is against killing of innocent men, women and children. Any one doing this is doing one of biggest of the big sins in Islam.
But there ARE people who are killing in the name of Islam. I understand you dont consider them good Muslims. But the question remains, WHY is this phenomenon so widespread within your religion, but not in other religions at this point in time. I am not twisting your words, I am asking you a question.
MUQ wrote:
3. Are not your Police and Army killing innocent men , women and children in Palestine ? Why are you trying to act like an angel?
What are doing to stop that killing?
There is no widespread massacre in Palestine that I know of. There are no Jewish suicide bombings. Would you like to share with me support for your claim?
To me this is a deflection.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#69166 Mar 11, 2014
Sheena wrote:
Name - Joel
Address - 3 rd floor, Shakti Apartments, Altamount Road, near Washington House, Mumbai.
Age - 29
Gender - Male
Education - Master's from IIT (Powai)
Family - Baghdadi Jews. parents & sis - expired. Aunts, uncles, cousins in Israel. Daniel Ezra on Altamount road (first cousin) runs import-export business of electronics, computer hardware and has his main office on Lamington Road (Mumbai) and business deals in Tel Aviv, Seoul, US. Brother in law - engineer in Tel Aviv.
Profession- Business
Friends - Rachel Rubin (now in London) and Karan Masani (IT professional running own startup)
Hobbies - nil
Religion - Banke Baba (his guru) of Indore fu*k*ed up his mind.
Joel, pray you come out fast from this mess and be happy.
don't call to bark at me. did this online expose to help you. Seek medical help soon or it is finished for you.
Hello Joel or maybe I should call you Sheena or Rana? How do you prefer to be called? Are you really that desperate that to make us believe you are a Jew, that you have to take fake identity and make things up about yourself?

After this, we all believe you are a Jew. LOL
Rana wrote:
JOEL BIPOLAR BASTARD. Super Snob. Die. Many will be happy.

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