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INVERSE SQUARE LAW & GLOCALITY

EM fields that follow the inverse square law travel far away from source and at a sufficiently far distance can function independent of the source. Brain-EM generated consciousness field behaves in a similar way. So, there's no bar to the field, depending on its strength, of brain-generated consciousness to being local or nonlocal or glocal. Scientists should research these phenomena of consciousness that're corroborated by reason and yogic experience.
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RUPERT SHELDRAKE: NAIVE NEW-AGER

Rupert Sheldrake, psi researcher and Oxford biologist, says that consciousness is not generated by the electromagnetic field of complex neuronal activity. Dr Sheldrake states that brain waves correspond to various states of consciousness but that consciousness is not produced by brain activity.

Rupert Sheldrake, David Bohm and Fritjof Capra were close to the influential Indian philosopher, the late J Krishnamurti.

Mystics of all ages said/say the same thing that consciousness is independent of the body (matter).

Conversely, science is capable of altering our cognitive faculties via brain surgery, psychoactive drugs and em radiations and death of the neurons results in disappearance of consciousness. Some would argue that this consciousness, which is supposedly independent of the brain, somehow lifts out of the brain and continues its existence out of the corpse in some spiritual dimension.

Ironically, till today, no one has been capable of pinpointing the substance of which consciousness is composed of and no one has been able to tell us, backed with evidence, if consciousness, in whatever abstruse form it is supposed to exist, survives the death of the body. In the same way, spirit is another mumbo jumbo word.

Science has all the hard facts, while religion/mysticism has only belief/speculation to fall back upon.

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Often I wish that Topix had a judging button for BORING.

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Rick Moss wrote:
Gee. I go away for a day and the place becomes a San Francisco bath house from the early '80s.
Holster your libidos, gentlemen.
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/163791/israel...

Israel’s First-Ever Zombie Movie Kills It With Cholent Joke

Fighting reanimated Hezbollah ghouls, the IDF’s heroes never lose their cool

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Frijoles wrote:
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http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/163791/israel...
Israel’s First-Ever Zombie Movie Kills It With Cholent Joke
Fighting reanimated Hezbollah ghouls, the IDF’s heroes never lose their cool
Awesome! However, nothing new -- IDF has been taking on mindless zombies for 70 years.

In 'World War Z'(a terrible adaptation of a really good book), Israel is one of the few nations of the world that successfully controls the Zombie Apocalypse. Interestingly enough, by containing it behind a wall (Art imitating life?).

The metaphor is stretched even further when the successful Israeli strategy is hosed up by peaceniks. One of the (unintentionally) funniest bits of a movie that takes itself way too seriously.

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Frijoles wrote:
Often I wish that Topix had a judging button for BORING.
I just auto-skip past any Joel clip of more than three lines -- they are all obviously cut-and-paste.

Interesting note about Indian gurus and the Internet. Back in the early '90s bringing computers into India was highly restricted. Just going through customs with my laptop took an hour of paperwork. However, gurus who were involved with publishing religious literature could freely bring in all the latest computer equipment and publishing software. The Hindu community in India has a decade long head-start on everyone else there in the generation of religious spam.

The surname "Sheldrake" did catch my eye however. It was the name of Fred MacMurray's evil character in the classic comedy,'The Apartment'.
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The self chosen ones.

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FOOLING THE PUBLIC

What Rupert Sheldrake, Deepak Chopra, Dean Radin and Bruce Lipton fail to understand is that consciousness is not a thing but that it is an activity of matter in various states of organization with consciousness peaking in the complex human brain.

Consciousness is closely tied with electrical activity if it is not a direct manifestation of electricity in various stages of material organization.

These psi researchers are neither deeply intellectual nor are they yogis who have direct access to the field of consciousness with its numerous states and so they've made a mess of the science of consciousness by drawing on the crude information found in religious texts attributed to bronze age barbarians - Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, Krishna and others.

Well, the flip side, as expected, is that these psi writers are minting millions of dollars through their books, healing centers, public talks and promotional vids by fooling the masses who largely being anti-science lap up such woo woo.

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Often I wish that Topix had a judging button for BORING.
Hi there PhD in Science with Grade 5 skills in Math, Physics and Chem.

I wish Topix had buttons to judge you as DUMB, JEALOUS and A RELIGIOUS FANATIC.

LMFAO

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Hi there PhD in Science with Grade 5 skills in Math, Physics and Chem.
I wish Topix had buttons to judge you as DUMB, JEALOUS and A RELIGIOUS FANATIC.
LMFAO
I see you kept that post to 3 lines (as per Rick's recommendation)

Good boy!

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I see you kept that post to 3 lines (as per Rick's recommendation)

Good boy!
Hi there.

ha ha ha

I've come to the end of my researches in mind-matter using yogic experience and scientific evidences.

I am in touch with leading mind-matter researchers and with some mainstream scientists in this regard.

The mainstream scientists (though they lack the most crucial thing which is yogic experiences) are more in tune with the reality than the psi researchers like Sheldrake, Radin, Chopra, Lipton and others.

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The psi researchers like Sheldrake, Radin, Chopra, Lipton and others lack incisive intellectual arguments on the matter of sentience and have zero yogic experience. So, they're losers on both fronts. Fritjof Capra is a bit different when compared to the crackpots mentioned above since he's both a trained particle physicist and has some exposure to a direct yogic experience which completely transformed his life.

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J Krishnamurti, the mentor of Bohm, Sheldrake and Capra, was the biggest fraud in the field of philosophy in the 20th century.

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The gay nurse (Rick) with an IQ of 30 can now slip back into his tights as the shabbat has ended. LOL.
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The self chosen ones.
I ment to respond to your comment re: the Bible's veracity etc but can't find it.

"The Bible" is only a compilation of stories that were passed around, verbally for hundreds of years before a few were cherry picked and put to writing by ancient Hebrew scribes with the typical bias endemic to all mythologies.

The are far more Extra-Biblical documents recording the Regional History in which "Israel" is rarely or never mentioned.

“IN ANCIENT EGYPT, CANAAN REVISITED WITHOUT ISRAEL”

http://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/in-a...

EXCERPT "In his article “Deconstructing the Walls of Jericho“, appearing in Ha’aretz (29 October 1999), Ze’ev Herzog calls the mention of Israel on the stele a reference to “population group of nomads” who most probably were always on the move, looking for fertile land to herd their animals. In the article Herzog concludes.

“Following 70 years of intensive excavations in the Land of Israel, archaeologists have found out:

The patriarchs’ acts are legendary stories, we did not sojourn in Egypt or make an exodus, and we did not conquer the land.

Neither is there any mention of the empire of David and Solomon.

Did you know that Egypt is mentioned in the Holy Bible approximately 700 times (Egypt: 595 times, Egyptian(s): 120 times).

Israelites were mentioned in the ancient Egyptian records once or … maybe none at all."CONTINUED

All of the Ancient Mid East Mythologies aggrandized their military prowess, building projects Glorified Heros. I’ve seen Assyrian reliefs in which the King has his foot on his opponent’s throat, Egyptian Kings were portrayed in larger size than his soldiers and the Hebrews were no different in their claims to mystical, overblown glory and heroic victories even to this day.

It is only because the Romans chose Christianity with its Judaic roots that Judaism is as widespread as it is today.

Israel would be non existent without Colonial Power meddling and US Military and financial aid.

The McMahone agreement is among the many ways in which the Native Arabs were defrauded and are, today, justifiably resentful:

“The McMahon Agreement”
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/mcmahon....
EXCERPT “The McMahon-Hussein Agreement of October 1915 was accepted by Palestinians as a promise by the British that after World War One, land previously held by the Turks would be returned to the Arab nationals who lived in that land.

The McMahon-Hussein Agreement seemed to directly clash with the Balfour Declaration of 1917. CONTINUED

The fruits of Colonial meddling and America’s $ Trillions has resulted in a Genocidal entity that is not even a State and has been found guilty of Genocide via its own State Policy:

“Israel’s “Plan Dalet”: The Green Light for Zionism’s Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/israels-plan-dal...

EXCERPT “On that day in 1948, two months before Israel’s unilateral declaration of independence in defiance of the will of the organized international community as it then was at the UN, Zionism’s in-Palestine political and military leaders met in Tel Aviv to formally adopt PLAN DALET, the blueprint with operational military orders for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.” CONTINUED

“The UN did NOT create Israel”
http://alisonweir.org/journal/2013/9/18/the-u...

EXCERPT “Please see an article on this, "New States Are Not Created in the UN". Below is an excerpt:
"...was it true that Israel owed its very existence to the U.N., as it became popularly ”CONTINUED

For America’s Trillions of dollars and sacrifice of thousands of US lives, we get a Genocidal, little entity with its roots in Nazi Complicity.
“THE NAZI ZIONIST PACT”
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rosebud/Zionist_no...
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E23Jer34 wrote:
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On which thread did you post your question Re: the Bible's veracity, Israel's legitimacy and Zionist criminality?
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The self chosen ones.
This was the response I mentioned:

"The Bible" is only a compilation of stories that were passed around, verbally for hundreds of years before a few were cherry picked and put to writing by ancient Hebrew scribes with the typical bias endemic to all mythologies.

The are far more Extra-Biblical documents recording the Regional History in which "Israel" is rarely or never mentioned.

“IN ANCIENT EGYPT, CANAAN REVISITED WITHOUT ISRAEL”

http://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/in-a...

EXCERPT "In his article “Deconstructing the Walls of Jericho“, appearing in Ha’aretz (29 October 1999), Ze’ev Herzog calls the mention of Israel on the stele a reference to “population group of nomads” who most probably were always on the move, looking for fertile land to herd their animals. In the article Herzog concludes.

“Following 70 years of intensive excavations in the Land of Israel, archaeologists have found out:

The patriarchs’ acts are legendary stories, we did not sojourn in Egypt or make an exodus, and we did not conquer the land.

Neither is there any mention of the empire of David and Solomon.

Those who take an interest have known these facts for years, but Israel is a stubborn people and doesn’t want to hear about it.”

Did you know that Egypt is mentioned in the Holy Bible approximately 700 times (Egypt: 595 times, Egyptian(s): 120 times).

Israelites were mentioned in the ancient Egyptian records once or … maybe none at all."CONTINUED

All of the Ancient Mid East Mythologies aggrandized their military prowess, building projects Glorified Heros. I’ve seen Assyrian reliefs in which the King has his foot on his opponent’s throat, Egyptian Kings were portrayed in larger size than his soldiers and the Hebrews were no different in their claims to mystical, overblown glory and heroic victories even to this day.

It is only because the Romans chose Christianity with its Judaic roots that Judaism is as widespread as it is today.

Israel would be non existent without Colonial Power meddling and US Military and financial aid.

The McMahone agreement is among the many ways in which the Native Arabs were defrauded and are, today, justifiably resentful:

“The McMahon Agreement”
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/mcmahon....
EXCERPT “The McMahon-Hussein Agreement of October 1915 was accepted by Palestinians as a promise by the British that after World War One, land previously held by the Turks would be returned to the Arab nationals who lived in that land.

The McMahon-Hussein Agreement was to greatly complicate Middle East history and seemed to directly clash with the Balfour Declaration of 1917. CONTINUED

The fruits of Colonial meddling and America’s $ Trillions has resulted in a Genocidal entity that is not even a State and has been found guilty of Genocide via its own State Policy:

“Israel’s “Plan Dalet”: The Green Light for Zionism’s Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/israels-plan-dal...

EXCERPT “On that day in 1948, two months before Israel’s unilateral declaration of independence in defiance of the will of the organized international community as it then was at the UN, Zionism’s in-Palestine political and military leaders met in Tel Aviv to formally adopt PLAN DALET, the blueprint with operational military orders for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.” CONTINUED

“The UN did NOT create Israel”
http://alisonweir.org/journal/2013/9/18/the-u...

EXCERPT “Please see an article on this, "New States Are Not Created in the UN". Below is an excerpt:

For America’s Trillions of dollars and sacrifice of thousands of US lives, we get a Genocidal, little entity with its roots in Nazi Complicity.
“THE NAZI ZIONIST PACT”
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rosebud/Zionist_no...
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DOER AND WITNESS = EXCITED STATE AND GROUND STATE

The brain-em generated consciousness has a dual aspect - one is its exteriorized state which involves itself in observing/participating in outside events or in getting involved with bodily functions, while the other part of consciousness stays back and watches from behind.

These are the dual modes of operation of the consciousness generated in the brain which could correspond to two different frequencies of em waves in the brain - one, the excited state which corresponds to the frontal consciousness, the other the ground state which is equivalent to the witnessing poise of consciousness. With practice, one can identify with the witnessing part of consciousness and remain in a state of stato-dynamic peace, while the frontal aspect can involve itself in its usual activities and be controlled by the former, if need arises.

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JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Hi there.
ha ha ha
I've come to the end of my researches in mind-matter using yogic experience and scientific evidences.
I am in touch with leading mind-matter researchers and with some mainstream scientists in this regard.
The mainstream scientists (though they lack the most crucial thing which is yogic experiences) are more in tune with the reality than the psi researchers like Sheldrake, Radin, Chopra, Lipton and others.
You can stick to Torah.
Look forward to reading your published results in the Journal of Applied Yogology

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