Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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#61739 Nov 2, 2013
Infinity - Infinity =?

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#61740 Nov 2, 2013
OMNIJECTIVE WORLDVIEW:

"Our concept of time and space, the very structure of the universe, are more intimately related to problems and phenomenon of consciousness than we have seriously suspected....

There is no strict division between subjective and objective reality, consciousness and the physical universe are connected by some fundamental physical mechanism.

This relationship between mind and reality is not subjective or objective, but 'omnijective'. An omnijective concept of the universe is by no means new ...

There is a vast philosophical and metaphysical tradition behind the philosophy that the universe is omnijective:

The mystics tell us this is true.

The idealists tell us it is true.

Most exciting of all, the physicists tell us it is true."

Source: "Mysticism and the New Physics" Michael Talbot

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#61741 Nov 2, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
OMNIJECTIVE WORLDVIEW:
"Our concept of time and space, the very structure of the universe, are more intimately related to problems and phenomenon of consciousness than we have seriously suspected....
There is no strict division between subjective and objective reality, consciousness and the physical universe are connected by some fundamental physical mechanism.
This relationship between mind and reality is not subjective or objective, but 'omnijective'. An omnijective concept of the universe is by no means new ...
There is a vast philosophical and metaphysical tradition behind the philosophy that the universe is omnijective:
The mystics tell us this is true.
The idealists tell us it is true.
oy vey.
Most exciting of all, the physicists tell us it is true."
Source: "Mysticism and the New Physics" Michael Talbot
oy vey.
Godin

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#61742 Nov 2, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Infinity - Infinity =?
Relativity....

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#61743 Nov 3, 2013
Coitus interruptus.

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#61744 Nov 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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igence, well, you are very low down the intellectual scale.
Though science has not found any abnormality with respect to homosexuality since the condition is common to thousands of species except for the fact that the brains of homosexual men are wired more like females (which explains your effeminism) than like straight men, yet science has failed to highlight the fact that if men were exclusively or mostly gay then the human race would have become extinct thousands of years ago given the fact that most homosexual men do not procreate or are incapable of procreating. Science avoids tackling this glaring aspect. These days with the easy availability of invitro and cloning technologies procreation has moved beyond the sex act.
Grow up.
Science does not purport to discover the purpose of the universe, only the mechanism. So your criticism is misplaced.

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#61745 Nov 3, 2013
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It's not so bad ... after all, we do own everything.
And what we dont own, we still control.

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#61746 Nov 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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A liberal, atheist, secular Jew would have simply typed a LOL and said - no, I don't believe in Easter Bunnies but I like eating chocolate Easter eggs or something like that.
No fanaticism involved.
Ok, then, retard?
Easter eggs tend to be cheap quality chocolate (at least the ones I have been offered) and I have my standards - so no, I dont like Easter Eggs. The only thing worse than Easter egg chocolate IMO is Hannukah gelt.

Plus, usually they arent Kosher.

Happy Diwalli. How do you celebrate? Do you try to run over your Hindu friends?

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#61747 Nov 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Science does not purport to discover the purpose of the universe, only the mechanism. So your criticism is misplaced.
LOL.

Purpose?

Where in my post have I talked about purpose?

I simply made a statement that science, while glorifying homosexuality, has failed to touch upon the consequences of all men being homosexual which had it been true would have rendered extinct the human race thousands of years ago.

If science can talk about about the sun scorching the earth had it been a little closer to the earth or of the dire consequences of global warming then why has it failed to touch upon the issue of the extinction of the human race had every man been homosexual?

Well, even though science has ignored this crucial point for whatever reason perhaps political correctness could be the reason regarding the causal connection between extinction of species and homosexuality, I am bringing this radical consequence into view to remind people of the fruitlessness (in the procreative sense) of being born homosexual.

Does science deal with mechanism in a holistic universe constituted of mind-matter?

Science deals with the mechanism of observed effects which it mistakes as the complete causation.

Besides, science deals only with a narrow range of gross physical phenomena but makes sweeping generalizations and tall claims about the nature of reality which of course is way beyond its microscopic ken.

The limitations of science should be pointed out.

Science is not sacrosanct nor infallible nor holistic as many scientists themselves candidly admit these days.

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#61748 Nov 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Easter eggs tend to be cheap quality chocolate (at least the ones I have been offered) and I have my standards - so no, I dont like Easter Eggs.
Really?

What do you know about high standards where food is concerned?

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#61749 Nov 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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The only thing worse than Easter egg chocolate IMO is Hannukah gelt.
ah, you could have condemned both in your post to Voluntarist, right?

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#61750 Nov 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Plus, usually they arent Kosher.
LMAO.

Kosher?

At one point, say a month ago, you'd made reference to the point that you don't always follow dietary laws

The ultimate reality/the workings of the universe and being don't revolve around the superstition called kosher.

Get rid of your superstitions. It'll help you grow as a sentient being in the correct direction.

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#61751 Nov 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Happy Diwali.
Diwali?

Yuck!

I don't associate with any event or festival that celebrates genocide and mass destruction and oppression of women.

Diwali is all about genocide and mass destruction and oppression of women.

So, yuck to Diwali.

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#61752 Nov 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Really?
What do you know about high standards where food is concerned?
Earth to Joel. Other people have taste buds too.

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#61753 Nov 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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LMAO.
Kosher?
At one point, say a month ago, you'd made reference to the point that you don't always follow dietary laws
Use your brain. Or whats left of it, I suppose. Did I say exactly which laws I follow? Not that it is your concern.

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#61754 Nov 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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How do you celebrate? Do you try to run over your Hindu friends?
My Hindu friends are either rationalists or non-observant Hindus and so we gather to denounce the evil called Diwali that celebrates genocide and mass destruction and oppression of women.

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#61755 Nov 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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ah, you could have condemned both in your post to Voluntarist, right?
Sure. But I didnt. I saved that for you. Dont gizz over that, please.

In defense of gelt, it tasted great as a kid.

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#61756 Nov 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Diwali?
Yuck!
I don't associate with any event or festival that celebrates genocide and mass destruction and oppression of women.
Diwali is all about genocide and mass destruction and oppression of women.
So, yuck to Diwali.
But you are perfectly ok with oppression of gays. And are quick to condemn others who stand up for their rights. Nice. A homophobe but not an misogynist.

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#61757 Nov 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Earth to Joel. Other people have taste buds too.
You're not a connoisseur of fine world foods and so I was amused when you typed that you have "standards" where food is concerned. LOL.

I guess you'd know a lot about fries, burgers, bagels, jelly, roast beef and baked beans that you eat in ordinary restaurants like Shoney's, Macs, etc.

I mean that you're that kind of a person who lacks substance and style. It's so evident.

Anyway, eat healthy by cutting down on "kosher" meats and turn more to healthy vegetarian options.

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#61758 Nov 3, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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LOL.
Purpose?
Where in my post have I talked about purpose?
I simply made a statement that science, while glorifying homosexuality, has failed to touch upon the consequences of all men being homosexual which had it been true would have rendered extinct the human race thousands of years ago.
A strong positivist wouldnt even bother with a "WHY" explanation. They would stick to the HOW.
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>If science can talk about about the sun scorching the earth had it been a little closer to the earth or of the dire consequences of global warming then why has it failed to touch upon the issue of the extinction of the human race had every man been homosexual?
Ummm...probably because extinction because the few percent of gay people is probably not an issue that actually threatens our existence?

You are confusing a micro level of analysis with macro level of analysis anyhow. Evolution is a macro concept. You cant apply it to an individual level. Sloppy thinking on your behalf, but then again what is new.

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