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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Voluntarist

United States

#61696 Nov 1, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Most of us have evolved our belief systems since adolescence. I guess not all of us.
So you still believe in the Easter bunny?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61697 Nov 1, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
HUGH,
Where are you, Monny?
(smiles)
Is that the way MONEY is spelt in India?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61698 Nov 1, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Yes, your intellectual faculties are pathetic, while your sex organ and libido are well developed.
Atavistic features, right?
Yes!
Not surprising, Monny.
Dearest, there are things like Viagra in our time so there is no need for you to be contented with your DEAD stick.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61699 Nov 1, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Hugh,
You've understood nothing about rabbinic literature.
I'll explain to your fu-cking dense brain what &#7716;akhameinu Zikhronam Liv Rakha or Hazal commentaries (Talmudic commenatries) are all about, later.
I am going out to the swank Palms in the Trident for lunch. My friends are waiting for me.
Bye, Monny.
Hugh---I believe it is from a teaching of some that Jesus is currently in Hell BOILING in excrement.

Joel---Hugh,You've understood nothing about rabbinic literature.

Hugh-- Yes dear. Tell me, did I mention rabbinic literature? No. Nevertheless I thank you for confirming the source of such excrement.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61700 Nov 1, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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A homosexual has a slightly differently wired brain (anterior commissure part of the brain) from birth as new research suggests that in its structure/function interacts with the amygdala which influences emotions and so such a brain in a gay male veers more towards female emotions which in turn could influence their hormonal activity. There's also differences in the hypothalamus (from birth) between homosexuals and heterosexuals - a nuclei of the hypothalamus, INAH-3, reveals that heterosexual males have double the volume of both homosexual and female subjects. Testosterone levels in the embryonic stage could also play a factor in sexuality/sexual orientation. So, every study indicates that sexual orientation is inborn.
As far as the erroneous old view of homosexuality being a mental disorder is concerned, well, let's analyze this flawed claim:
1) What is mind?
2) Is the mind the same as brain (neuronal activity)?
If mind = brain, then typical homosexual activities like habitual thoughts centered on same sex attraction and frequent indulgence in anal sex would certainly show up as "disordered" synaptic patterns in homosexual brains that significantly differ from the "ordered" heterosexual synaptic patterns in the pleasure centers of the brain. Had this been true, then, mental disorders like say for example schizophrenia and anti-social behavior would more likely show up in gays than is straight men. This is however not observed.
3) If the mind is independent of matter but causally inheres in brain, then, too, we would observe typical "disordered" synaptic patterns associated with homosexual behavior. This, too, is not observed in brain scans.
Since, homosexuals have brains that veer more towards female emotionality we conclude that homosexuality is inborn and is simply one of the many functional modes of sexuality that has its roots in embryonic development.
Joel---A homosexual has a slightly differently wired brain (anterior commissure part of the brain) from birth as new research suggests that in its structure/function interacts with the amygdala which influences emotions and so such a brain in a gay male veers more towards female emotions which in turn could influence their hormonal activity.

Hugh--- In other words homosexuals have an ABNORMALITY of the brain. That is what I have been saying, they are SICK and are to be treated accordingly and not as criminals.

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#61701 Nov 1, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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See, human beings contribute to forming a government/nation by first intellectually defining these terms and then giving these intellectual ideas a concrete shape by creating laws and erecting infrastructure and marking out geo-political boundaries and creating an army of personnel to help in the smooth functioning.
Are you really suggesting that first people made up the terms government and nation to then think the possible definitions to give to them and after that, they created laws, built infrastructure and marked geo-political boundaries? LOL

That was not the order of things.

I bet you CAN'T GIVE, FIND or ADVANCE neither ONE example of a nation created in the order you presented.

JOEL THUMBS UP

Since: May 13

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#61703 Nov 1, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Government really is just a group of men and women providing a service by force.
The term "service" indicates human intelligence and human effort at work.

Who conceives the idea/framework of government? The human mind.

Who executes the idea? Human beings using various natural and man-made resources.

So, human beings conceive the idea of government first and then follows the execution.

We first conceive and then execute.

If the service offered by elected representatives is forcefully imposed on us then I guess at some point there'd be widespread protests and an insurrection if things get out of hand.

Democracy is not participative but veiled autocracy since once the voters cast their ballots the elected group of representatives takes charge of running the nation and its affairs and most of the decisions of the elected representatives are based on whims and self interest and the views of the electorate who voted them to power for say a period of 5 years or so is usually not taken into consideration.

This is the drawback of democracy.

Besides, most elections are rigged and if certain powerful lobbies control both sides in an election then whoever is elected would still serve the selfish interests of the same powerful lobby at work behind the scenes. This is what can be called a shadow government. They are real arbiters/kingmakers.

The alternative to democracy would be benevolent dictatorship.

Every human activity involves the dual process of conceptualization and execution which is an important aspect of the mind-matter matrix functioning in the sphere of human affairs.

JOEL THUMBS UP

Since: May 13

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#61704 Nov 1, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Joel---A homosexual has a slightly differently wired brain (anterior commissure part of the brain) from birth as new research suggests that in its structure/function interacts with the amygdala which influences emotions and so such a brain in a gay male veers more towards female emotions which in turn could influence their hormonal activity.

Hugh--- In other words homosexuals have an ABNORMALITY of the brain. That is what I have been saying, they are SICK and are to be treated accordingly and not as criminals.
I can't call the condition abnormal since the difference in brain wiring between gays and straight people takes place in the embryonic stage itself and so the sexual orientation is inborn and not a matter of choice.

Heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality and asexuality are the various inborn functional modes of sexuality.

It's like say left-handedness and right-handedness which is another inborn trait.

Had the gay brain been "disordered" in its wiring, I am sure this "disorder" would have affected other aspects of the gay man's personality given the fact that neuronal circuits are interconnected in fundamental ways that as a result would have resulted in mental illnesses like schizophrenia, or in impaired cognition, or in criminal/anti-social behavior and the like. These adverse manifestations are spread out among all groups of people whether gay, straight, bisexual or asexual. So, there's nothing disordered/abnormal about a gay brain. Homosexuality is simply one of many functional modes of sexuality.

JOEL THUMBS UP

Since: May 13

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#61705 Nov 1, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Hugh-- Yes dear. Tell me, did I mention rabbinic literature? No.

Nevertheless I thank you for confirming the source of such excrement.
Talmud is rabbinic literature.

Didn't you know this ordinary fact?

JOEL THUMBS UP

Since: May 13

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#61706 Nov 1, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Hugh---I believe it is from a teaching of some that Jesus is currently in Hell BOILING in excrement.
That is the opinion of a rabbi.

Jesus finds no mention in Torah and other standard Jewish texts.

Jesus is looked upon with disfavor in the orthodox Jewish community because he attempted to mock several key teachings of Tanach, broke the shabbat, ridiculed the clergy (rabbis), spoke of himself as an incarnation of El, introduced monism in a dualistic faith, tried to win over people with parlor tricks learned from sorcerers, taught evils like break up of families/sword over peace and the like and threatened, cursed and abused those who refused the new philosophy he offered. These divisive and incendiary acts of Jesus created angst in the orthodox Jewish circles of those days and the clergy were upset that their cherished beliefs and ancient traditions were being swept away by the radical teachings of Jesus. Fearing a revolt in orthodox Jewish society, the Roman authorities took action against Jesus and arrested him and after a trial crucified him.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#61707 Nov 1, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Is that the way MONEY is spelt in India?
No, Honey. LOL.

Do you want me to be your honey?

I am handsome and sweet natured but inexperienced in sex of the straight or gay kind.

(smiles)

JOEL THUMBS UP

Since: May 13

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#61708 Nov 1, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Is that what you call it?
Yes, you have a monstrous dick - all of 14" by your own admission.

I wish you had a smaller dick and a bigger brain, Monny.

JOEL THUMBS UP

Since: May 13

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#61709 Nov 1, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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2. I am NOT a homophobe and I speak truthfully.
Your hatred of homosexuality derives from the irrational and unscientific teachings of the stone-age Tanach.

It's turning you into a lunatic and an object of ridicule in educated circles.

Discard stone-age teachings which will turn you into a fanatic which it has already done and cause a serious regress in your consciousness.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#61710 Nov 1, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Dearest, there are things like Viagra in our time so there is no need for you to be contented with your DEAD stick.
Viagra, brain scans, stem cell therapy, invitro, cloning, blood transfusions, aminocentesis, prosthetics and other great technologies are modern inventions. Nothing mumbo jumbo about these.

JOEL THUMBS UP

Since: May 13

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#61711 Nov 1, 2013
Mental Models

We form mental models of just about everything - cars, airplanes, corporations, ballet, opera, markets and their evolution, laws, competition, operations, customer loyalty, consumer marketing, innovation, operational excellence, knowledge development and management, and so on.
Some of these mental models may be static, while others - frequently, the most useful ones - are dynamic. Some are quite real; many are symbolic. Some may be visionary. Some may have multiple legitimate interpretations, which depend on the perspective and context.

Bottom line - we execute and improvise after the conceptualization stage and again the very acts of execution and improvisation are intelligent processes. LOL.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#61712 Nov 1, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Is that what you call it?
Amazing - a gay is a gay basher.

Since: May 12

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#61713 Nov 1, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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Are you really suggesting that first people made up the terms government and nation to then think the possible definitions to give to them and after that, they created laws, built infrastructure and marked geo-political boundaries? LOL
That was not the order of things.
I bet you CAN'T GIVE, FIND or ADVANCE neither ONE example of a nation created in the order you presented.
Expected

LOL
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#61714 Nov 2, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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You cannot solve a single problem in Math, Physics and Chemistry.
rabbee: i am not! your school kid. i do what G-D wants me to do, not what you want me to do as a very poor g-d. and i reject all codependent controller types. i do not play, bipolar manic head games.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#61715 Nov 2, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Does the list of the abominable "subtle beasts" also include Abraham, Moses, Elijah, Jesus, Zoroaster, Krishna and Muhammad?
Yes.
Obviously, Abraham, Moses, Elijah, Jesus, Zoroaster, Krishna and Muhammad are in the list of the abominable "subtle beasts" given their perverse teachings/degraded karma!
rabbee: if you can't even, get their names right. if i answered your question, it would a lie in agreement with a liar. why did you only get, the four most important name wrong? and why did you spell, only zoroaster, krishna, and muhammed correct?

for claiming to have such a high intelligence, why can't you get it right?
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#61716 Nov 2, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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We cannot imagine anything that does not already exist in the universe as scattered parts of archetypes or as bits of information or as a whole.
We simply keep discovering small bits of information from the universal physical or from the universal mind fields and piece them together to get varying degrees of coherence depending on how much of information we discover and how well we piece them together in the right order.
At times, if the intuition, that bypasses ratiocination, is powerful enough the entire sequence of information assembled in the correct order may percolate as a whole into the concentrated mind.
Besides,
What is meant by fact?
What is meant by truth?
Is a fact the same as a truth?
rabbee: information is not, the definition of truth. information, can be total bs. or it can be a fact, spun with a lie/s.

an alleged as fact is an axiom, that is purported as truth. it, does not mean it is.

truth is a postulate, with proof derived from alleged factual axiom. but if the axiom is wrong, then so is the postulate.

and a fact is not necessarily, the same as the truth. example - muhammed existed. then the proposed true postulate - therefor muhammed is, the last true prophet. because muhammed said, a bunch of political crap religiously.

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