Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

Second Coming of Jesus and Rapture are myths - Jesus is not powerful enough to regenerate the earth nature and humanity. His mission on earth 2000 years ago was a colossal failure.

former res wrote:

Huggy
Perhaps I was a bit harsh.
Please turn you other cheek and forgive me.

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JOEL wrote:

Second Coming of Jesus and Rapture are myths - Jesus is not powerful enough to regenerate the earth nature and humanity. His mission on earth 2000 years ago was a colossal failure.

I didn't realize realize His mission was as you said. The good news is if you're wrong, then you will get to tell Him about your theory.

ISRAEL & IRAN - THE THESIS & THE ANTI-THESIS:

Israel will never be ditched by the US and Europe until it has played its appointed role of agent provocateur on the world stage. Israel is an Illuminati creation in the first place and the US and Europe are Illum controlled.

Illuminati-controlled Iran, too, will not be abandoned by the Illum guys until it has served its purpose of playing the anti-thesis in a carefully crafted Illum strategy for global dominance - the creation of a police state devoted to Free Masonism/Baal/Molech worship - in a scenario that'll come about after the culling of most people, the "useless eaters", in the world.

LOL.

FAKE SCRIPTURES:

1) The scriptures have been written or re-written by the Free Masons centuries or millennia ago to fit in with their unfolding plan of world domination as revealed to them and which at times is being revealed to them in the present on a need-to-know basis via the subtle vision.

2) Gullible believers are under the false impression that their book or scripture contains the truth and that its prophecies are accurate when actually everything is staged and can be used or discarded as per the unfurling plan that is in its culminating stages.

3) The Illum guys have subverted all religions and churches and control them by placing their own members as church heads.

4) The poor prophets and their God are powerless and too ignorant to engineer a transformation.

ROFL

Clear wrote:

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I didn't realize realize His mission was as you said. The good news is if you're wrong, then you will get to tell Him about your theory.

I usually never go by hypotheses or speculations.

ISRAEL & IRAN - PUNCH & JUDY SHOW:

Israel and Iran are controlled characters in a neatly arranged Punch and Judy show with the rest of the nations nicely being told to support which side and to act in what manner by the shadow government.

(smiles)

HughBe wrote:

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Frijoles---Jewish people dont accept Jesus as their personal saviors. That is Christianity, not Judaism.
HughBe--- It certainly is Christianity and not Judaism, so you are correct, for a change. However, I am still trying to understand how YOUR Satan became so dominant within you.
To say that Jewish people don't accept Jesus and to imply that they accept your religion is BS.
Learn and understand these facts.
1. Some Jewish people accept Jesus, the Jew, as their Messiah.
2. Many Jewish people embrace Judaism
3. Many Jewish people REJECT Judaism and I suspect that in the main the greater intelligence is in this group as opposed to your group/Judaism.
4. A significant number of Jews are into Easter religion and NOT Judaism.

you are a waste of time

HughBe wrote:

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Until now, I did not realize how deficient your understanding skills were. Get help in understanding the following and get back to me and EXPLAIN the meanings.
1."Israel’s greatest asset and best friend By EARL COX"
Help: explain what is meant by GREATEST ASSETS.Note it is speaking about the same evangelicals that are against you and your masters.
2. " Evangelicals use their political, financial and spiritual leverage to help Israel withstand whatever attack might come next."

already did

HughBe wrote:

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Frijoles---Shocking isnt it?
HughBe--- quantify the "many Jews". Why not REJECT the support? Is Israel being FORCED to accept its GREATEST ASSET?
Explain the meaning of GREATEST ASSET.

already presented my view

get over it

HughBe wrote:

Frijoles, EXPLAIN and reconcile with your charge of anti-Semitic.
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributor...
All quotes are from the Jerusalem Post. Note, I did NOT write the article.
"Many Evangelical Christian organizations in Israel, with support from Evangelical Christians around the world, are providing food and other assistance to thousands of Israeli immigrants and poor families."

already presented my view

get over it

HughBe wrote:

Frijoles, what you have demonstrated once again is that your religion teaches HATE.
Certainly the Jew who wrote the article in the Jerusalem Post is NOT a member of Judaism. How do I know this? It is a HONEST report. Had he been a blind DUMB sheep like you he would NEVER have written it.
God BLESS him ABUNDANTLY.
Finally, intelligence have REJECTED your religion. Only the deceived remain with it.
How long will the deception last?
Time will tell.

now you are in reruns (as it you couldn't be a worse waste of time)

01Justsayin wrote:

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A Jew is a Jew is a Jew. However, Judaism as a religion does not regard Jesus as the Messiah. As I said earlier, they are still waiting for Messiah to return. Messianic Jews believe in Jesus as the Messiah. As confirmed by an actual Jew earlier (scroll up), it's not viewed as a branch of Judaism by those who actually practice the religion. However, I'm NOT a Jew so perhaps you should go ask one. I'm simply going by what I've read and what I've been told. Also I'm well aware of which Tree my branch of faith has grown from. I really don't need you to educate me on that fact.

I see you are experiencing a flavor of Hughbe

the term "alternate reality" comes to mind - though I perhaps "personal reality" might be a better term

former res wrote:

Huggy
Perhaps I was a bit harsh.
Please turn you other cheek and forgive me.

Dont tempt him. You know his tendencies.

former res wrote:

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Only because of the Rapture.
When...."everyone who doesn’t believe in Jesus is incinerated."

"The longstanding tradition of the US being Israel’s closest ally is arguably being dismantled by policies detrimental to Israel. But there is one ally that is steadfast... the Evangelical Christian."

I dont know about you, but I see no evidence for the truthfulness of the first statement. Questioned, maybe, but certainly not dismantled by the current administration.

A few years ago the support by the American religious right wing was unquestionably accepted by the Israeli public. Now it is being increasingly questioned. Not because any Israeli listens to the arguments by us American moderates and liberals. They don't usually. But because the Israelis themselves are seeing the folly in it.

I quipped that Hughbe is stepping into waters too foreign for him because of two reasons. He constantly demonstrates no capacity to understand American politics. And he obviously has no ability to understand Israeli politics or society. Therefore he has no ability to understand this issue - as it requires an understanding of both.

former res wrote:

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Only because of the Rapture.
When...."everyone who doesn’t believe in Jesus is incinerated."

Christians march in Jerusalem in support of Israel

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/2012...

"Evangelical Christians are known as strong supporters of Israel, providing financial help and political backing, especially in the U.S. Even so, their hard-line views toward Palestinians and suspect religious motivations make some moderate Israelis and Jews abroad uncomfortable....

....The relationship between evangelical Christians and Israel isn't without its wrinkles.

Many Israelis are troubled by what they suspect is the source of the unqualified support – a belief by some evangelical groups in an apocalyptic battle between good and evil in which Jesus returns, and Jews either accept Christianity or perish.

...A ultra-Orthodox Jewish former mayor of Jerusalem, Uri Lupolianski, refused to accept funds from evangelical Christians for fear of their proselytizing. His successor, the current mayor, Nir Barkat, has revoked the policy, but some skepticism still persists.

Moderate Israelis are also uneasy with evangelical backing, as the Christians back the hard-line nationalist Israeli camp that opposes giving up control of any of the West Bank, though the majority of Israelis favor creation of a Palestinian state there, and even Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, a veteran hawk, has grudgingly accepted that...."

Frijoles wrote:

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you are a waste of time

To the foolish, correct. You are just plain WASTE.

Frijoles wrote:

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already presented my view
get over it

Frijoles---already presented my view

HughBe--- Correct and it is one of LIES, DECEPTION and HATE learnt from your religion/Judaism.

Please read and EXPLAIN the meaning of the quotes with focus on the capitalized words. Tell me if they are FALSE. They were taken from the Jerusalem Post.

1."Israel’s GREATEST ASSET and best friend By EARL"

2." Evangelicals use their political, financial and spiritual LEVERAGE to HELP Israel WITHSTAND WHATEVER attack might come next."

3."In recent years, however, a groundswell of support for Israel has arisen, creating a new and POWERFUL FRIEND for Israel in the form of EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS. From all over the world these Evangelical Christian believers, including many Americans, are proud to be labeled as “Christian Zionists.”"

4."WITHOUT the Evangelical Christian community STANDING in the BREACH with both PRAYER and action, the United States may have entered a free-fall in its foreign policy that would have ended in a far more hostile environment for Israel."

5."The longstanding tradition of the US being Israel’s closest ally is arguably being dismantled by policies detrimental to Israel. But there is ONE ALLY that is STEADFAST... the Evangelical Christian."

6."Many Evangelical Christian organizations in Israel, with support from Evangelical Christians around the world, are PROVIDING FOOD and other assistance to THOUSANDS of Israeli immigrants and POOR families."

7.Others(Evangelicals) have provided portable concrete BOMB SHELTERS to PROTECT Israeli residents living along the Gaza border and elsewhere in Israel

In closing my BOY, what an ENEMY of the Jews these Evangelical Christians are. The truth is they are NOT anti-Semitic as you have made them out to be and all of your comments and efforts to take away from and to foster HATE is a reflection of who you are and the forces that shaped you.

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributor...

Frijoles wrote:

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Christians march in Jerusalem in support of Israel
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/2012...
"Evangelical Christians are known as strong supporters of Israel, providing financial help and political backing, especially in the U.S. Even so, their hard-line views toward Palestinians and suspect religious motivations make some moderate Israelis and Jews abroad uncomfortable....
....The relationship between evangelical Christians and Israel isn't without its wrinkles.
Many Israelis are troubled by what they suspect is the source of the unqualified support – a belief by some evangelical groups in an apocalyptic battle between good and evil in which Jesus returns, and Jews either accept Christianity or perish.
...A ultra-Orthodox Jewish former mayor of Jerusalem, Uri Lupolianski, refused to accept funds from evangelical Christians for fear of their proselytizing. His successor, the current mayor, Nir Barkat, has revoked the policy, but some skepticism still persists.
Moderate Israelis are also uneasy with evangelical backing, as the Christians back the hard-line nationalist Israeli camp that opposes giving up control of any of the West Bank, though the majority of Israelis favor creation of a Palestinian state there, and even Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, a veteran hawk, has grudgingly accepted that...."

Reminds me of the Twilight episode "To Serve Man."

"The day arrives for Mr. Chambers's excursion to the Kanamits' planet. Just as he mounts the spaceship's boarding stairs, his staffer Patty appears. He waves, smiling, but she runs toward him in great agitation—and is held back by a Kanamit guard. "Mr. Chambers," Patty cries, "don't get on that ship! The rest of the book To Serve Man, it's... it's a cookbook!" Chambers tries to run back down the spaceship's stairs, but a Kanamit blocks him, the stairs retract, and the ship immediately lifts off."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_ (The_Twilight_Zone)

01Justsayin wrote:

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A Jew is a Jew is a Jew. However, Judaism as a religion does not regard Jesus as the Messiah. As I said earlier, they are still waiting for Messiah to return. Messianic Jews believe in Jesus as the Messiah. As confirmed by an actual Jew earlier (scroll up), it's not viewed as a branch of Judaism by those who actually practice the religion. However, I'm NOT a Jew so perhaps you should go ask one. I'm simply going by what I've read and what I've been told. Also I'm well aware of which Tree my branch of faith has grown from. I really don't need you to educate me on that fact.

Justsay--A Jew is a Jew is a Jew.

HughBe--- Correct and no one can change that. The religious CLUB called Judaism does not have the power to change that fact and this is contrary to what they so FOOLISHLY believe.