Dangerous Dog Amendment: State Will V...

Dangerous Dog Amendment: State Will Vote On Whether Madison County Commission Should Be Authorize...

There are 62 comments on the WHNT News 19 story from Oct 12, 2010, titled Dangerous Dog Amendment: State Will Vote On Whether Madison County Commission Should Be Authorize.... In it, WHNT News 19 reports that:

On November 2, voters across the state will go to the polls on an amendment which would change the way dangerous dogs are dealt with in Madison County.

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Responsible Parent

North Charleston, SC

#1 Oct 12, 2010
Of course I use that screen name because Donna Roberts isn't a responsible parent. She is the one at fault in this particular attack. Leaving the children unattended, knowing that there's a pen with a dog inside close by, is actually a crime. If the Madison County Sheriff had any "stones" he'd arrest her today for parental neglect. The only thing worse than this mother's behavior is that Randy Hinshaw is using the pictures of Jace for his own political gain. He wants to give the County Commission more reasons to interfere in our lives. He, like most Democrats, wants to take away all personal freedoms. I am truly sad that Jace experienced the attack but it is neither the dog's nor the owner's fault. Vote no on this asinine amendment.
Jen

Huntsville, AL

#2 Oct 12, 2010
While I agree that dogs need to be contained, I think it is wrong to focus on a few select large breeds. I am a parent of a toddler, I understand the concern, but I am also an owner of two large dogs. They are both very gentle and friendly, and also fenced in. The most viscous dog breed I have ever dealt with is the Miniature Pincher. While weighing less than 10 pounds and not much threat to an adult, a small dog could inflict extensive damage to a small child. This legislation needs to apply across the board and not be segregated. There are two rather aggressive Chihuahuas in our neighborhood that have free roam and I am just as nervous about them as any other dog when we go for walks.
AB Lover

United States

#3 Oct 12, 2010
I am an owner of an American Bulldog. He is the kindest most loving dog that you will find. He loves children and would never intentionally hurt a human being. I have been attacked by a cocker spaniel and a poodle. I wonder if these dogs will be included on the "dangerous dog" list? I think if proper research is done. The dogs that are considered "most dangerous" aren't going to be what you think. Small dogs attack more than the breeds that you hear about on the news, the problem is that those dogs don't get the media attention. I would trust my 8 year old son in a pin with a pit bull (which if bred and raised correctly are actually very human friendly) than a Cocker Spaniel or Poodle.
ThomasA

Leeds, AL

#4 Oct 12, 2010
Responsible Parent wrote:
Of course I use that screen name because Donna Roberts isn't a responsible parent. She is the one at fault in this particular attack. Leaving the children unattended, knowing that there's a pen with a dog inside close by, is actually a crime. If the Madison County Sheriff had any "stones" he'd arrest her today for parental neglect. The only thing worse than this mother's behavior is that Randy Hinshaw is using the pictures of Jace for his own political gain. He wants to give the County Commission more reasons to interfere in our lives. He, like most Democrats, wants to take away all personal freedoms. I am truly sad that Jace experienced the attack but it is neither the dog's nor the owner's fault. Vote no on this asinine amendment.
A child "wandered into" a pen with a dangerous dog inside? Something is very cloudy here. How could this happen? A vicious dog has to be contained in a pen that any child cannot wander into with a fence that cannot be climbed out of or dug under. A vicious breed dog used for a watchdog is no good if it has to be contained but a person cannot let it run loose because the dog knows no boundries and will attack off the property at will. These animals have no place in a subdivision,trailer park,apartments or any other concentrated population areas.
luvinsmalldogs

United States

#5 Oct 12, 2010
Jen wrote:
While I agree that dogs need to be contained, I think it is wrong to focus on a few select large breeds. I am a parent of a toddler, I understand the concern, but I am also an owner of two large dogs. They are both very gentle and friendly, and also fenced in. The most viscous dog breed I have ever dealt with is the Miniature Pincher. While weighing less than 10 pounds and not much threat to an adult, a small dog could inflict extensive damage to a small child. This legislation needs to apply across the board and not be segregated. There are two rather aggressive Chihuahuas in our neighborhood that have free roam and I am just as nervous about them as any other dog when we go for walks.
Those ankle biters will get ya every time. Better watch out.
txgal49

Huntsville, AL

#6 Oct 12, 2010
While the idea may be well-founded, this will most likely prove to be an impossible task, i.e.,
deciding which dogs are/are not vicious and are to be included in any new law. Madison County I am sure does not have the manpower to be in all areas each day of the week to protect citizens from any free roaming dogs of any breed. I hope someone will introduce a solution to satisfy parents and dog owners equally and which will not serve to move forward any candidate's bid for re-election, but protect all children (or anyone else) from future attacks in Madison County.
AB Lover

United States

#7 Oct 12, 2010
luvinsmalldogs wrote:
<quoted text>Those ankle biters will get ya every time. Better watch out.
By someone's who dog was attacked by a Cocker Spaniel, they do a lot of damage. While you may think it is funny - see how funny it is when one of these "ankle biters" gets a hold of your kid, grandkid, neice or nephew.
MickeyF

Huntsville, AL

#8 Oct 12, 2010
A vicious dog is one that has attacked without provocation. A dog that bites is not necessarily vicious, the bite is only the last sentence of a book that may be several chapters long. I once knew a neighborhood brat (the term fits the child) who would run a stick up and down a dog's pen. The dog would bark and the brat thought this was hilarious. The dog eventually had enough, dug under the fence and bit the child twice. The owner and parents involved had both been warned several times. The owner took steps, like no trespassing signs and even installed a 3 ft. chainlink, which the child jumped and continued teasing the dog. Who is at fault here? Not the owner, who took reasonable steps to protect his dog and property from an undiscilpined and antagonistic brat. The parents for not teaching their brat to respect the property of others? I say yes. The brat herself for antagonizing a dog who had never shown any aggressive tendencies? Yes. The dog? No.
Had it not been for a security camera mounted on a neighbor's garage, that home owner would probably been held liable for the brat's willful and antagonistic behavior.
Don't hate the breed, deal with the deed.
AB Lover

United States

#9 Oct 12, 2010
MickeyF wrote:
A vicious dog is one that has attacked without provocation. A dog that bites is not necessarily vicious, the bite is only the last sentence of a book that may be several chapters long. I once knew a neighborhood brat (the term fits the child) who would run a stick up and down a dog's pen. The dog would bark and the brat thought this was hilarious. The dog eventually had enough, dug under the fence and bit the child twice. The owner and parents involved had both been warned several times. The owner took steps, like no trespassing signs and even installed a 3 ft. chainlink, which the child jumped and continued teasing the dog. Who is at fault here? Not the owner, who took reasonable steps to protect his dog and property from an undiscilpined and antagonistic brat. The parents for not teaching their brat to respect the property of others? I say yes. The brat herself for antagonizing a dog who had never shown any aggressive tendencies? Yes. The dog? No.
Had it not been for a security camera mounted on a neighbor's garage, that home owner would probably been held liable for the brat's willful and antagonistic behavior.
Don't hate the breed, deal with the deed.
I couldn't agree more! Thank you Mickey!
Responsible Parent

North Charleston, SC

#10 Oct 12, 2010
Ol' ThomasA makes one fatal flaw in his argument. This dog was not known to be vicious and by all accounts had never bitten anyone. I find it intereseting that the discussion turns away from the real culprit, Donna Roberts. I'd rather have that dog in my neighborhood than Donna Roberts. Donna Roberts has no place in our subdivisions, trailer parks, apartments or anywhere there are children.
ThomasA

Leeds, AL

#11 Oct 12, 2010
Responsible Parent wrote:
Ol' ThomasA makes one fatal flaw in his argument. This dog was not known to be vicious and by all accounts had never bitten anyone. I find it intereseting that the discussion turns away from the real culprit, Donna Roberts. I'd rather have that dog in my neighborhood than Donna Roberts. Donna Roberts has no place in our subdivisions, trailer parks, apartments or anywhere there are children.
Not known by whom to be vicious? Owners will cover for a dog even it is sitting their with a human hand in its mouth. The nice "oh, he won't bite" that people say about their dog doesn't hold water. All, A L L dogs are subject to turn on a child in the household or a stranger without provocation. Dogs have their bad days too and often get put down because of their actions.
mom of two

Mount Pleasant, SC

#12 Oct 12, 2010
ANY dog can bite. Children should never be left alone with a animal, small or large. Nobody knows what happened to cause the bite. How can we pass wide, vague laws about dogs. Then enforce it?? What about when a dog bites a kid that hurts it, but only the owner is the witness?? Why do we think passing laws are the answer to everything. People want to complain about dogs that bark a lot, we need a law!! What about the fact that the dog in question is barking at cats that are allowed to roam free. What about the fact that this MOTHER should have been watching her child. You cannot leave your kids unattended in the yard any more!!! Parents want everybody else to take raise there children, and lord help you if you correct or offend their little darlings. We don"t need laws passed!!! We need parents to do there jobs. I hate that this child was injured.
Another mother

Huntsville, AL

#13 Oct 12, 2010
I couldn't agree with "Responsible Parent" more.
This child, who looked like no more than a baby at the time of this incident should have been supervised. DHR and the authorities should be notified of this unfit mother's neglectful and irresponsible actions that could have gotten her child killed. Under no circumstances should a child be allowed to roam freely about the neighborhood especially into another neighbor's yard where dogs are held. I hope this mother is ashamed of herself. She shoud be.
On another note, if someone chooses to have a certain breed of dog, let them have it as long as it can not be free to harm anyone.
They should have done a story on a vicious dag that was left free to run around that wouldd have made more sense in this matter
This case is really about a bad mother's neglectful behavior who is absolutely unfit to be a mother.
Responsible Parent

North Charleston, SC

#14 Oct 12, 2010
Once again poor ol' ThomasA has no clue what he's talking about. I assume that since we all have our bad days that everyone, human and canine, in Madison County should go before a board and be certified as "safe" or "vicious". I'd bet my last dime that there are more women harmed in Madison County by knuckle dragging men than people injured by animals. All, A L L men are subject to turn on their wives without provocation (did you like how I spelled A-L-L out for you Tommy?). Why don't we euthanize men who beat their wives to a pulp? I'm a man and I think that idea makes more sense than wantonly killing dogs because a Madison County Board says to. You are blaming the wrong people Thomas. Who are you or any "panel" to say who or what is vicious? Will getting the government involved really make things better? Vote no on Hinshaw's amendment. See ya at the polling place.
luvinsmalldogs

United States

#15 Oct 12, 2010
AB Lover wrote:
<quoted text>
By someone's who dog was attacked by a Cocker Spaniel, they do a lot of damage. While you may think it is funny - see how funny it is when one of these "ankle biters" gets a hold of your kid, grandkid, neice or nephew.
I own an ankle biter. He is a seven pound maltese, and he is mean as hell. I love him though, but he will bite ya!
AB Lover

United States

#16 Oct 12, 2010
luvinsmalldogs wrote:
<quoted text>I own an ankle biter. He is a seven pound maltese, and he is mean as hell. I love him though, but he will bite ya!
LOL! At least you know what you are dealing with and I am sure you agree that a 7 lbs dog can draw blood just like a 100 lbs dog can and it hurts either way!:)
Athens

Decatur, AL

#17 Oct 12, 2010
In Limestone County there isn't any leash law, so many animals run wild. A strange dog (breed mixed and not identifiable, but about 20 pounds) came into my yard and killed a cat. Tried to intimidat eme too, so I went in and got a rifle. Dog was gone when I came out. I have many large dogs (all Huskies or Collie/Husky mix) and they are kept in pens. This ordinance makes sense, there are too many irresponsible dog owners out there.
pitbull owner

Saint Petersburg, FL

#18 Oct 12, 2010
I have 2 pitbulls . I love them just like i love my children. They are behind a six ft wooden privacy fence.They play with my kids and my nephews all the time(supervised)and have for years now. My little girl pit would prob open the door for you and lick you to death before she would ever bite you. My big male pit is my (in lack of better terms ) protector. He has never bitten anyone , nor do I hope he ever will. But I do not live in the best of neighborhoods and he has saved my house from being robbed 2 times(with his deep growl and general size) and has also saved me from being attacked in my own home(just by being by my side). The only times he has EVER shown any aggression is when his FAMILY is being threatened. Any father, son, husband, or brother would show the same aggression if their own Family was being threatened as my pitbull did. Now as someone said in another post any size dog could be a dangerous dog , so how can people determine what dog is or isnt. I was attacked on my leg 22 yrs ago by a little dachshund. it hurt like hell !!! had 9 stitches and i was only 8 yrs old. It was my fault , I admit, I was a brat and teased the dog. My mom kept telling me to leave the neighbors dog alone and I didnt. So again, who can say a dachshund isnt any more dangerous than a pitbull!!
ThomasA

Leeds, AL

#19 Oct 12, 2010
Responsible Parent wrote:
Once again poor ol' ThomasA has no clue what he's talking about. I assume that since we all have our bad days that everyone, human and canine, in Madison County should go before a board and be certified as "safe" or "vicious". I'd bet my last dime that there are more women harmed in Madison County by knuckle dragging men than people injured by animals. All, A L L men are subject to turn on their wives without provocation (did you like how I spelled A-L-L out for you Tommy?). Why don't we euthanize men who beat their wives to a pulp? I'm a man and I think that idea makes more sense than wantonly killing dogs because a Madison County Board says to. You are blaming the wrong people Thomas. Who are you or any "panel" to say who or what is vicious? Will getting the government involved really make things better? Vote no on Hinshaw's amendment. See ya at the polling place.
You will have a different attitude when you are in the emergency room with your child that has been bitten and mauled by a dog"that won't bite". That experience and the following surgeries to repair the damage will change your mind. If you have a dog at your house, be sure you have coverage "just in case". You are responsible for damages and injuries and the doctors and hospital can make quite a dent in your checkbook.
big doggy

Huntsville, AL

#20 Oct 12, 2010
My dog doesn't bite and they and their owners aren't resposiable for their actions,the victim is.If you are bit you should have not hurt the dogs feelings he is more important than you are.Dogs should not be punished for injuring people .Go Bama.

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