fatman in the party van

Bronx, NY

#21 Jan 5, 2013
Your liscence to get ammo is a good idea
Itsallcrap

Catlettsburg, KY

#22 Jan 5, 2013
fatman in the party van wrote:
Your liscence to get ammo is a good idea
NOT
Get Real

Ironton, OH

#23 Jan 5, 2013
fatman in the party van wrote:
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yea but to use a car u have to register it and the cops see it when you drive it. They can't see a gun in the car...people around here don't go to shooting ranges the police will not have the chance to see the fire arm like they do the tags on the car... A criminal will just hide the weapon the cops will never know they have it....it won't be a lot different than the system we have now
But if it were transferred we would know the new owner. And have a database if that gun ever were used in a crime. It wouldn't always help but it would help alot.
What if you had to show a Firearm License to go to a shooting range and show your title and registration on your gun. Under my system he would have been arrested for trying. That would have prevented it. Nothing is fail proof. But this would be so simple once the system was put into place. If you take the time to think about it there are alot of things
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Vern

Huntington, WV

#25 Jan 5, 2013
Get Real should be a politician, sounds just like the stupid democrits on capital hill.
fatman in the party van

Catlettsburg, KY

#26 Jan 6, 2013
Get Real wrote:
<quoted text>But if it were transferred we would know the new owner. And have a database if that gun ever were used in a crime. It wouldn't always help but it would help alot.
What if you had to show a Firearm License to go to a shooting range and show your title and registration on your gun. Under my system he would have been arrested for trying. That would have prevented it. Nothing is fail proof. But this would be so simple once the system was put into place. If you take the time to think about it there are alot of things
sir you are a geek that has never lived in the real world
htimsekim

Port Deposit, MD

#27 Jan 6, 2013
Get Real wrote:
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Does anyone actually realize what the REAL problem is with firearms in America? The problem is in how guns are registered not with the guns themselves. When you purchase a firearm, it is registered in your name but, once you walk out the door there is no way to keep track of whose hands it passes through or where it will end up. The solution to the problem is to do what has already been done for decades and is already proven to work! We need to keep track of guns and gun owners the same as we do automobiles. 1. All firearm owners should be required to take a psych. exam along with a written test on firearm safety and a hands on test and then be issued a FIREARM LICENSE. 2. All firearms should be issued a CERTIFICATE of TITLE and REGISTRATION that stays with the firearm for life and must be transferred anytime the firearm is sold or traded. 3. All firearms should have their ballistic fingerprint saved into a database. 4. If you get caught with a firearm and no firearm license then your weapon gets confiscated and you go to jail! 5. If you are caught with a firearm that does not have a valid title and registration then, your firearm gets confiscated and you go to jail! Problem solved! Any guess on how many jobs I just created?
Are you really that stupid or just trolling?
Ghetto Valley

Parkersburg, WV

#28 Jan 6, 2013
Nazi Weapons Act of 1938 (Translated to English)

Classified guns for "sporting purposes".
All citizens who wished to purchase firearms had to register with the Nazi officials and have a background check.
Presumed German citizens were hostile and thereby exempted Nazis from the gun control law.
Gave Nazis unrestricted power to decide what kinds of firearms could, or could not be owned by private persons.
The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by bureaucrats.
Juveniles under 18 years could not buy firearms and ammunition.

Funny, you and Hitler seem to have similar ideas about gun control. Here, I will share my opinion about gun control. I know a nice little passage that pretty much sums it up, check it out.


Amendment II

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

These are two pretty simple statements, the first being a well regulated militia is necessary for the security of a free state. The second is that the right of THE PEOPLE, as in We The People, to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. What part of that do you not understand?
Get Real

Brighton, MI

#29 Jan 6, 2013
htimsekim wrote:
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Are you really that stupid or just trolling?

The cops I've talked to love the idea. The felons I talk to hate it. The NRA even emailed me back and said it is an idea that has potential. I should have just chose a forum with intelligence instead of here. I actually came up with a real idea instead of just posting negative remarks. Your fat ass is the troll!
fatman in the party van

Catlettsburg, KY

#30 Jan 6, 2013
Your idea doesnt make it any harder for people to steal guns than the laws we have now....criminals don't shoot guns at ranges for sport...they use them to rob and steal.... The only people that use them for sport are legal shooters
I apologize for the nerd comment I'm honestly trying to see your side
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Get Real

Brighton, MI

#32 Jan 6, 2013
fatman in the party van wrote:
Your idea doesnt make it any harder for people to steal guns than the laws we have now....criminals don't shoot guns at ranges for sport...they use them to rob and steal.... The only people that use them for sport are legal shooters
I apologize for the nerd comment I'm honestly trying to see your side
Why don't you put down the donut and actually do some thinking. If I want to shoot people....you can't stop me! What my idea will do is stop guns from being sold and traded from one person to another and when someone does sale or trade or sell a gun, the new owner will have to transfer it to their name instead of having all of these so called "registered guns" floating around.
Tell me how banning guns would have prevented what happened? You can't write a piece of legislation that stops crime! I already have the magazines and I'm gonna have them regardless of any law you think up?
If you don't see the reasoning behind my plan then, you don't know shit about the current laws we have and you need to find a forum you know something about like who's better between Burger King and McDonald's!
Itsallcrap

Catlettsburg, KY

#33 Jan 6, 2013
Get Real wrote:
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The cops I've talked to love the idea. The felons I talk to hate it. The NRA even emailed me back and said it is an idea that has potential. I should have just chose a forum with intelligence instead of here. I actually came up with a real idea instead of just posting negative remarks. Your fat ass is the troll!
Nice, insult actual firearms owners and prior military....
Truth Flinger

Inez, KY

#34 Jan 6, 2013
Get Real wrote:
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Comments Comments Posts 81 to 100 of 105 Posts 81 to 100 of 105
Does anyone actually realize what the REAL problem is with firearms in America? The problem is in how guns are registered not with the guns themselves. When you purchase a firearm, it is registered in your name but, once you walk out the door there is no way to keep track of whose hands it passes through or where it will end up. The solution to the problem is to do what has already been done for decades and is already proven to work! We need to keep track of guns and gun owners the same as we do automobiles. 1. All firearm owners should be required to take a psych. exam along with a written test on firearm safety and a hands on test and then be issued a FIREARM LICENSE. 2. All firearms should be issued a CERTIFICATE of TITLE and REGISTRATION that stays with the firearm for life and must be transferred anytime the firearm is sold or traded. 3. All firearms should have their ballistic fingerprint saved into a database. 4. If you get caught with a firearm and no firearm license then your weapon gets confiscated and you go to jail! 5. If you are caught with a firearm that does not have a valid title and registration then, your firearm gets confiscated and you go to jail! Problem solved! Any guess on how many jobs I just created?
One huge problem with your little scenario.

What about the MILLIONS of guns all ready out there?

It would help with NEW guns but not with old guns.

Sorry, wouldn't work.
Itsallcrap

Catlettsburg, KY

#35 Jan 6, 2013
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Get Real

Ironton, OH

#37 Jan 6, 2013
Truth Flinger wrote:
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One huge problem with your little scenario.
What about the MILLIONS of guns all ready out there?
It would help with NEW guns but not with old guns.
Sorry, wouldn't work.
Because anyone who currently holds a firearm could have it registered under the new system. It wouldn't be an overnight solution and would take some time but, it would work!
fatman in the party van

Catlettsburg, KY

#38 Jan 6, 2013
Get Real wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't you put down the donut and actually do some thinking. If I want to shoot people....you can't stop me! What my idea will do is stop guns from being sold and traded from one person to another and when someone does sale or trade or sell a gun, the new owner will have to transfer it to their name instead of having all of these so called "registered guns" floating around.
Tell me how banning guns would have prevented what happened? You can't write a piece of legislation that stops crime! I already have the magazines and I'm gonna have them regardless of any law you think up?
If you don't see the reasoning behind my plan then, you don't know shit about the current laws we have and you need to find a forum you know something about like who's better between Burger King and McDonald's!
so then what exactly are you trying to prevent if it's not criminal killing innocent people?
Get Real

Ironton, OH

#39 Jan 6, 2013
fatman in the party van wrote:
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sir you are a geek that has never lived in the real world
I've been owning and shooting guns since I was 10 years old and I am almost 40. Go back to your van and smoke another one!
Itsallcrap

Catlettsburg, KY

#40 Jan 6, 2013
Get Real wrote:
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But if it were transferred we would know the new owner. And have a database if that gun ever were used in a crime. It wouldn't always help but it would help alot.
What if you had to show a Firearm License to go to a shooting range and show your title and registration on your gun. Under my system he would have been arrested for trying. That would have prevented it. Nothing is fail proof. But this would be so simple once the system was put into place. If you take the time to think about it there are alot of things
Ridiculous
fatman in the party van

Catlettsburg, KY

#41 Jan 6, 2013
I asked a question. I've been shooting since I was little also I'm now 28 what's your point?
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Get Real

Farmington, MI

#43 Jan 6, 2013
fatman in the party van wrote:
I asked a question. I've been shooting since I was little also I'm now 28 what's your point?
Ok. Can you follow me? Let's say you go to Wolly World and buy an AR-15....(yes wolly world sells them too).
You get home and decide you don't like it so you sell it to me. I don't like it either so I trade it for a couple of pistols and some fuel for my Apache Helicopter.
Now, 5 years later some nut job shoots someone and the cops find the gun. It comes back registered to you. That gun has been sold and traded so many times that the police have 0 chance of finding the shooter so, someone got away with murder.
Under my system there would be a record of everyone who owned that gun and the cops would know where it was.
This would do nothing to stop some nut job from shooting people but, it would make the crime alot easier to solve.
Let's say I am a felon under the current system....As long as my gun is not stolen and I do not commit a crime and get arrested....I can still own a gun. I can even get pulled over and tell the cop that it is registered to me and when my gun comes back clean, he is going to give it back to me and send me on my way. He has absolutely no way of knowing I am a felon or who my gun is registered to during a simple traffic stop. Do you not find that surprising? My plan would fix that.
Someone could still sell the gun illegally and falsely report it stolen right? Right.....but, then the gun is reported stolen. Therefore, whoever owns it is going to keep it hid very well or risk getting it taken and thrown in jail.
Could the guy still use it to kill someone? Of course but, atleast then the police would know the exact gun they were looking for. With all that.....You can't stop crime but, you can put roadblocks in place that deter it.
It would basically be an honor system where I prove that I have no ill intentions and just like shooting guns and instead of harassing me, you check my paperwork and go look for the real criminal. Just imagine if cars had no title or registration and you didn't need a Driver License to operate them. We would have stolen vehicles and drunk and unlicensed drivers running over and killing people everywhere.
That is exactly what America has done with our firearms except people are getting shot instead of ran over. Again....nothing will STOP crime or crazy people but, we can slow them down alot without taking away our rights!
Itsallcrap

Catlettsburg, KY

#44 Jan 6, 2013
Get Real wrote:
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Ok. Can you follow me? Let's say you go to Wolly World and buy an AR-15....(yes wolly world sells them too).
You get home and decide you don't like it so you sell it to me. I don't like it either so I trade it for a couple of pistols and some fuel for my Apache Helicopter.
Now, 5 years later some nut job shoots someone and the cops find the gun. It comes back registered to you. That gun has been sold and traded so many times that the police have 0 chance of finding the shooter so, someone got away with murder.
Under my system there would be a record of everyone who owned that gun and the cops would know where it was.
This would do nothing to stop some nut job from shooting people but, it would make the crime alot easier to solve.
Let's say I am a felon under the current system....As long as my gun is not stolen and I do not commit a crime and get arrested....I can still own a gun. I can even get pulled over and tell the cop that it is registered to me and when my gun comes back clean, he is going to give it back to me and send me on my way. He has absolutely no way of knowing I am a felon or who my gun is registered to during a simple traffic stop. Do you not find that surprising? My plan would fix that.
Someone could still sell the gun illegally and falsely report it stolen right? Right.....but, then the gun is reported stolen. Therefore, whoever owns it is going to keep it hid very well or risk getting it taken and thrown in jail.
Could the guy still use it to kill someone? Of course but, atleast then the police would know the exact gun they were looking for. With all that.....You can't stop crime but, you can put roadblocks in place that deter it.
It would basically be an honor system where I prove that I have no ill intentions and just like shooting guns and instead of harassing me, you check my paperwork and go look for the real criminal. Just imagine if cars had no title or registration and you didn't need a Driver License to operate them. We would have stolen vehicles and drunk and unlicensed drivers running over and killing people everywhere.
That is exactly what America has done with our firearms except people are getting shot instead of ran over. Again....nothing will STOP crime or crazy people but, we can slow them down alot without taking away our rights!
So your plan will not reduce crime, just make the cops job easier?

License and registration does nothing to stop drunk driving.

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