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Coal silo protest

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#22
Mar 26, 2008
 
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All you do is go from one topic to the other to bitch, moan and groan about something. If you are so concerned, then why don't you get off the computer and talk to someone who will listen instead of bitching about it here....LALALALALALALALA
Ok BITCH... First of all I do not go from forum to form .. I address where I LIVE!!! This has ALWAYs been a wonderful school and have been here for years .. Unitl closed minded peices of shit like YOU come around!!! So YOU to STFU because it looks like you are the one going from forum to forum!!
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#23
Mar 26, 2008
 
I know I don't have a horse in this race, because I don't live in the area, but if I was so worried about my children and home, I would move. I wouldn't be trying to keep the school open and I wouldn't be living there. Just my opinion.
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Mar 27, 2008
 

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Someone tell me if I am crazy, but isnt all the people who is whining about the dam the same ones trying to keep MFHS from closing....If we are in such danger why would they want to leave MFHS here??? Not saying I didnt want it here. All they are doing is forcing the board to close our ONLY school we have left, MFES....... You all should be ashamed.
WVU study finds high illness, death rates in coalfields
Across West Virginia's coalfields, residents frequently worry that coal slurry in their water or coal dust in their air is making them sick.
By Ken Ward Jr.
Staff writer

Across West Virginia's coalfields, residents frequently worry that coal slurry in their water or coal dust in their air is making them sick.

Now, a West Virginia University researcher who has spent more than seven years looking into the issue says those residents may be onto something.

West Virginians who live in the state's coalfield counties are more likely than other residents to suffer from chronic heart, lung and kidney disease, WVU researcher Michael Hendryx reports in one of a series of new scientific papers.

West Virginians who live in the state’s coalfield counties are more likely than other residents to suffer from chronic heart, lung and kidney disease, WVU researcher Michael Hendryx reports in one of a series of new scientific papers.
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"We need to pay attention to these problems, and try to find ways to deal with them," Hendryx said in a phone interview Tuesday.

Hendryx, associate director of the WVU Institute for Health Policy Research in the university's community medicine department, is co-author of four new articles examining coal's possible impacts on public health in Appalachia.

The studies found more lung cancer deaths, overall hospitalizations and overall deaths in coal-producing counties compared to other parts of the region and to the nation as a whole.

On Tuesday, WVU issued a news release to call attention to one of the papers.

That study, being published in next month's issue of the American Journal of Public Health, used data from a 2001 phone survey of nearly 16,500 West Virginians. Hendryx and Washington State University researcher Melissa Ahern compared the results to coal production figures, U.S. Census data and Department of Health and Human Resources information.

As coal production in counties increases, they found, so does the incidence of chronic illness.

Residents in major coal counties had a 70 percent increased risk of kidney disease and a 64 percent increased risk of developing chronic obstructive pulmonary disease such as emphysema, the study found. Coal county residents were also 30 percent more likely to report high blood pressure.

Hendryx and Ahern tried to isolate coal's potential impacts by factoring out the influence of other possible causes, such as smoking, obesity and age.

"We've adjusted our data to include those factors, and still found disease rates higher in coal-mining communities," Hendryx said.

In another study, published in the January 2007 issues of the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health, Hendryx examined hospitalization patterns in coal-mining counties of West Virginia, Kentucky and Pennsylvania.

That study found that hospitalization for chronic obstructive pulmonary disease increased 1 percent for every 1,462 tons of coal produced in a county. Hospitalization for high blood pressure increased 1 percent for every 1,873 tons of coal produced, the study found.

This month, another study by Hendryx in the journal Lung Cancer reported that lung cancer rates for 2000 to 2004 were higher in areas of heavy Appalachian coal mining, even after figures were adjusted to take smoking, poverty and other variables into account.
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#25
Mar 27, 2008
 
These people can not undrestand and will never agree with these findings. If they do all of them will have to admitt that there school should be closed down and that they are killing themselves and their families slowly.
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Mar 27, 2008
 
Jackson wrote:
I know I don't have a horse in this race, because I don't live in the area, but if I was so worried about my children and home, I would move. I wouldn't be trying to keep the school open and I wouldn't be living there. Just my opinion.
I agree. I know that people have probably lived there all their life, and they hate to leave because there heart and soul is probably sunk into their home. BUT, the life of a child or grandchild is not worth staying for.
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#27
Mar 27, 2008
 
Like Jackson, I don't have a horse in this race or a dog in this fight.

I would like to point out a recurring theme that I see when I read or hear anything concerning this problem. Repeated time after time, "If you think there is danger then why not move." This is clearly an organized campaign to demoralize the protesters. Look at Jackson,Valerie Stan and maybe Ajb on this thread. Some of these may just be copying what they've heard from the organized ones, something counted on by the organizers.

I would really think hard before starting or repeating such hurtful words of war against people in dire straits already. If everyone would give in and not fight, it would make it easy for big powerful companies to overrun all of us.

To you folks in harms way, stand strong and fight for your rights.
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Mar 27, 2008
 
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Like Jackson, I don't have a horse in this race or a dog in this fight.
I would like to point out a recurring theme that I see when I read or hear anything concerning this problem. Repeated time after time, "If you think there is danger then why not move." This is clearly an organized campaign to demoralize the protesters. Look at Jackson,Valerie Stan and maybe Ajb on this thread. Some of these may just be copying what they've heard from the organized ones, something counted on by the organizers.
I would really think hard before starting or repeating such hurtful words of war against people in dire straits already. If everyone would give in and not fight, it would make it easy for big powerful companies to overrun all of us.
To you folks in harms way, stand strong and fight for your rights.
What are they fighting for and what we are saying is not harmful it is common sense. The land and water ways have been distroyed. All they are fighting for is to kill themselves and thier families slowly. Clearly you say "to the folks in harms way" does this not mean there is danger. So why would anyone in thier right mind stay and take the chance. This is not meant to be harmful but to educate because I as a parent would not take the chance with my childrens lives I am the adult and supposed to shield them from harms way.
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#29
Mar 27, 2008
 
They are fighting to eliminate the danger and it needs done sooner than later. If it were taken care of quickly, they could go back to the life they had before someone put them in danger.
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Mar 27, 2008
 
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They are fighting to eliminate the danger and it needs done sooner than later. If it were taken care of quickly, they could go back to the life they had before someone put them in danger.
Its great to eliminate the danger but where would it go. Are they going to send this plant to another town to distroy more land. Do these people not realize that once it has contaminated the ground and water ways it can not be completely removed it will always be there. Maybe instead of fighting for properties which are now worthless fight to get recouped for low property values from this company and move some where safe.
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#31
Mar 28, 2008
 
And what are ya going to do when something happens....sue?! you will probably win, but I don't think any amount of money can replace your children or grandchildren. Please think of the children. You will not be able to live with yourselves if this were to happen knowing you could have just moved.
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Mar 28, 2008
 

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Im so sick of people saying "my children are in danger" ....Let me just say one last time, If I EVER thought my children were in danger I would take them as far away as I could from it....SOOOOOO if you people are so sure we are in danger get the HELL out of here.IF You run the coal companies away then where is everyone going to find a job????? Walmart???? By the looks of the people that was protesting , you all are just riding the state for all its worth anyway. SAD BUT SO TRUE!
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#33
Mar 28, 2008
 
Dust has been and is generated at the facility as a result of material handling
activities and this dust migrates to the school property and into the school, where it is
respired. This dust has known health hazards, especially in the inhalation exposure
route. I believe that the inhalation of this dust must be avoided and prevented. I believe
that the occupants of Marsh Fork Elementary School are at risk from exposure to the dust
emitted from the facility.

You might want to change your name to ignorant parent because if this was reported about an area where my kids went to school no low paying job is going to keep me there. If you believe your children breathing this coal dust and chemicals will not put them in harms way or just straight out kill them slowly then you should have been stopped from reproducing. You as a parent should protect them not saturate the bodies in it.
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LOL...Whatever. Look at how many people that has went to that school and in excellent health. All the treehuggers take a common cold or ANY kind of sickness and blame it on the coal mines.
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#35
Mar 29, 2008
 
I know you will never admitt that the treehuggers are right because you would have to admitt you and anyone who agrees with you are slowly being killed. Most of the illness is not going to bother you till your older and thats why they have good health. I do not understand why you would be taking sides with the company. Are you the one making millions I believe not. I am sure your family makes an okay wage for wv but is it truely worth making someone rich why your families health slowly declines. What will you do if the laws get changed and the company is shut down and all the families in the area start getting sick. Who will pay your bills not those rich people and you will loose everthing your are now trying to defend. You need to wake up no amount of money is worth loosing your life for.
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Mar 30, 2008
 
Stephanie Timmermeyer, secretary of the state Department of Environmental Protection, said that such concerns about coal's impact on public health are beyond her agency's purview.
DEP reviews mining permit applications, and ensures that they comply with federal regulations, Timmermeyer said. Then, DEP inspectors make sure mines follow their permits, she said. Looking into whether mines or processing plants are making residents sick isn't DEP's job, Timmermeyer said.
"We are the agency that regulates emissions from facilities, and the way we regulate those emissions is based on environmental quality standards," Timmermeyer said," Timmermeyer said. "Most of those are developed on the federal level.
"No one at my agency should be talking about whether these facilities have adverse health effects," Timmermeyer said. "That's not under our purview and we do not have that expertise."
Ramsburg said that public health issues like the ones raised by Hendryx should be handled by the state Department of Health and Human Resources.
Officials in DHHR's Bureau for Public Health referred questions to agency epidemiologist Loretta Haddy. Haddy said Friday that she needs more time to review Hendryx's studies before she comments.
Joe Lovett, director of the Appalachian Center for the Economy and the Environment, said he wasn't surprised that the Manchin administration was not acting on Hendryx's research.
Lovett also said that DEP has clear authority to deal with such issues, under state and federal laws that prohibit mining operations from causing any "off-site damage."
"If this isn't off-site damage, what is?" Lovett said. "DEP doesn't understand its job. It never saw a law it wanted to enforce."
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Mar 30, 2008
 
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Ms McGinnis, I hope you realize there is a 2.8 Billion Gallon Sludge Dam above the school, I hope you realize the silo permit(not counting the 1st) would emit an extra 3.6 tons of coal dust, 1/2 of that less than 10 microns which the body has no defense over. I hope you realize the diesel that the trains run on is a proven cause of cancer. I hope you realize the binding agents that are sprayed on the coal when they are loaded are also carcinogens. I hope you realize that immediately after the sludge dam in Martin Co Kentucky destroyed miles of community that workers here were above the school at the sludge dam pumping water and diverting it as fast as they could because they were afraid of it failing at that time.
I also hope you realize that yes, I choose to live on Coal River, as my ancestors before me, but I do not choose to have my grandchildren attend a school that has the potential for danger. I believe my grandchildren deserve better from our State.
No, I do not represent MFE, I represent my grandchildren.
ye what she said you go girl.
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#38
Apr 20, 2008
 
What a horrible, sad situation. I've just seen videos of the mountaintop mining, or I should say mountain leveling. I can't understand why, in an era where environmentalists raise doubts and questions, why this is allowed. Why are companies allowed to destroy moutains and poison the air?
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#39
Apr 20, 2008
 
Does no one remember Buffalo Creek Mine disaster in 1971 does history have to repeat itself. People wake up.
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Apr 21, 2008
 

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Remember .. You can't take the fight out of the dog... We will continue to live in this commuinty reguardless... We do LOVE our CHILDREN.. Always outsiders lookin in trying to put their two since where it DOES NOT belong!!
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#41
Apr 22, 2008
 
I am not an outsider and I can tell you that you are extremely selfish and do not deserve to have children. I asume that you were part of the community who paid to have an air quality investigation done on the school and the results came back your children were inhaling and ingesting the coal dust. This means your children are in harms way and when they are older and get sick make sure that you tell them you did this to them. Remember there is no fight your land is worthless due to contamination.
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