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Handy manny

Brooklyn, NY

#23 Oct 4, 2013
Shut em all down all the way to hunt city hall
Good job willy

Brooklyn, NY

#24 Oct 4, 2013
New money in city budget. Hunt won't be shut down......new positions everywhere???? Huh??
Pooper scooper

Brooklyn, NY

#25 Oct 4, 2013
Buncha poppies in city hall

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#26 Oct 4, 2013
Julie wrote:
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Actually jerk, I'm gonna wait until Monday then start drawing my unemployment, so there you go.
need more of our tax $'s??? u've gotten to b a real pro w/gov't dependency
Julie

Hurricane, WV

#27 Oct 6, 2013
Nose Better wrote:
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Julie I don't know what to think of you. First, if you are so freakin stupid that you haven't saved money in case you have problems then maybe it is your stupidity that has put our government into the rathole position its in.
Secondly, having spent most of my life around here quit your bitchin about being laid off. I don't think you will find much sympathy from coal miners, steel workers, construction workers and factory workers - all of whom have endured layoffs and PAY CUTS while Feds continue to get their annual increases.
The last "shutdown" was in 1995 and NO FEDERAL EMPLOYEE LOST A PENNY IN COMPENSATION! EVERY LAST ONE, whether a deadbeat goof-off or hard working civil servant, got paid their full salary. NO ONE WAS CHARGED AS MUCH AS ONE MINUTE OF ANNUAL OR SICK LEAVE either.
For all I know, you may be a very hardworking and good employee - if you are, then thanks for your service. But sorry, I can't stand the whining and bitching over the shutdown. The problem is the government is spending too damn much money and wasting the vast majority of it. We are in debt to our great grandchildren's eyeballs and headed down the drain at an ever increasing speed.
"Oh, I might miss 5 days of pay and my life is over." Look, get with the real world - there are families out here that go 5 months or more without money. You aren't gods, you don't give God policy, and He doesn't consult you on policy.
I hope the federal government stays shut down until the 2014 Election. Then we can fire the whole damn bunch and put people in there that want to serve this Country and restore it to greatness.
I don't give a crap if they are Republican, Democrat, gay, lesbian, black, white, striped, handicapped, blind, or always wet themselves when someone turns a microwave oven on. I want people that believe in America!
Actually I had money saved then this thing called the sequester, which I'm sure you're an expert of, came along. Due to the sequester, I was first furloughed for multiple days during the last couple of months, therefore depleting the money I had saved up just in case of an emergency.

I feel for the other occupations of people in this country, such as the coal miners and steel workers who are laid off from time to time. I don't want to see any hardworking American laid off through no fault of their own. Every willing abler person in this country SHOULD have to work for a living. Also, everybody who's using the welfare system SHOULD be drug tested, period! Then the 60-75% who are drug users who test positive should immediately start receiving $0 from the government. That system needs to be used for it's intended purposes, solely for those who actually NEED it.

So, since you know so much about the last shutdown and the Federal government terminology, which part of the Federal government did you or do you work for? And unlike the shutdown in 1995, a big part of the discussions early In this shutdown was that Federal employees would NOT get backpay and that it would be applied towards the sequester deficit. It wasn't until Friday that they actually started discussions of backpay. Either way, I just want to go back to work.

You know, early in my career I decided to work for private industry, using computer programs to design major roadways. Private industry can be so cut throat & I'd always heard how safe it is to work for the government & I wanted the stability for my family. I decided the cutthroat private sector days were over & moved into the government to design major bridges, and to be able to take care of my family without the threat of layoff or the cut throat atmosphere...and then 2013 came along...

I also agree with you that a whole new crew needs to be elected to strengthen our broken country and get back to the morals and ideals our forefathers wanted for this nation. That's a well said statement.
LastDance

Danville, WV

#28 Oct 6, 2013
When Michele Backman et al on the conservative ticket (Tea Party caucus) ran for office in the last election they committed them selves to a government shutdown. It was a prime cornerstone of their election campaign. Once in office they then committed themselves by signing a pledge that they would shutdown the government by attaching defunding of the Affordable Health Care Act (Obamacare) to any Continuing Resolution. That is the source of the current shut-down. One can argue the merits or faults of the AHCA - certainly that was done before the Supreme Court, one can argue the merits or faults of funding - certainly that was done when it was previously funded and rolled out October 1st. Changes or defunding can be done through the normal legislative process (tried 40 times previously). What cannot be argued is that the Speaker of the House has given his authority over to a minority not only within the House, but his own party. The Tea Party financial security (together with redistricting into safe election districts) equals the present deadlock. Whether one be Republican or Democrat with views positive or negative on the present situation, any intelligent, responsible adult surely knows this nation is in trouble. When legislative action to proceed on any ideological view - be it liberal or conservative - is placed second to "power of the purse" we have certainly become a nation governed by money. Spin it all you want to - but the chickens have come home to roost.
Nose Better

Charleston, WV

#29 Oct 6, 2013
Whether or not I work for, or worked for, the Federal Government isn't an issue. First, no one was laid-off or RIF'd courtesy of sequester. All budget sequestration did was freeze spending at 2012 levels, stopped new hiring (supposedly) and also froze most promotions.

1995 - The first act of Congress after passing a budget was an act granting ALL Federal Employees full retroactive pay without charge to any type of leave. The "shutdown" lasted 6-days as I recall, so no one ever missed a paycheck. ALL Federal Employees paid bi-weekly received their full paycheck this past Tuesday, October 1st. The first pay period to be affected by the shutdown ended yesterday (October 5th). Unless a bill is passed and signed, you will receive a partial check on Tuesday October 15th.

Any Federal Employees required to work during the "shutdown" MUST, by Federal Law, receive full compensation for their work. Now, the Government can delay that compensation until a budget is signed, but the Government must pay for any labor performed.

In case you were not paying attention, the House of Representatives UNANIMOUSLY (407 yea, 0 nay; this means every Democrat, Independent, and Republican voted in-favor)to approve a bill Friday morning granting full backpay to each and every Federal worker once the "shutdown" is resolved. Again, as in 1995, Federal employees will receive full compensation without charge to leave.

Oh, but wait, Harry Reid won't allow the Senate to consider the bill. Now, why is it that everyone in the House can agree on something but the Senate won't move?

So, again, your bitching about the "shutdown" is falling on deaf ears. I know you are whipped into a frenzy about this, no doubt by AFGE of AFSCME leadership or whatever bargaining unit you may belong to. Oh, another interesting tidbit there... The Federal Government is a RIGHT TO WORK employer - meaning you don't have to belong to the Union to work there. Would be nice to give everyone else that right...don't 'ya think?

Anyway, don't listen to your Union bosses and their bellyaching over the sequester and "shutdown." They are pissed because a percentage of your salary (if you are a Union member) pays their salary. For once, they may be plumb crap out of luck.
bratt pack

Saxonburg, PA

#30 Oct 6, 2013
LastDance wrote:
When Michele Backman et al on the conservative ticket (Tea Party caucus) ran for office in the last election they committed them selves to a government shutdown. It was a prime cornerstone of their election campaign. Once in office they then committed themselves by signing a pledge that they would shutdown the government by attaching defunding of the Affordable Health Care Act (Obamacare) to any Continuing Resolution. That is the source of the current shut-down. One can argue the merits or faults of the AHCA - certainly that was done before the Supreme Court, one can argue the merits or faults of funding - certainly that was done when it was previously funded and rolled out October 1st. Changes or defunding can be done through the normal legislative process (tried 40 times previously). What cannot be argued is that the Speaker of the House has given his authority over to a minority not only within the House, but his own party. The Tea Party financial security (together with redistricting into safe election districts) equals the present deadlock. Whether one be Republican or Democrat with views positive or negative on the present situation, any intelligent, responsible adult surely knows this nation is in trouble. When legislative action to proceed on any ideological view - be it liberal or conservative - is placed second to "power of the purse" we have certainly become a nation governed by money. Spin it all you want to - but the chickens have come home to roost.
john boehner caved n to the minority of the republicans???.... say hello to the new GOP .... where the minority of republicans represent the silent majority.... those fat cat republicans like mckain need to retire.

generation x
Julie

Elkview, WV

#31 Oct 10, 2013
Nose Better wrote:
Whether or not I work for, or worked for, the Federal Government isn't an issue. First, no one was laid-off or RIF'd courtesy of sequester. All budget sequestration did was freeze spending at 2012 levels, stopped new hiring (supposedly) and also froze most promotions.
1995 - The first act of Congress after passing a budget was an act granting ALL Federal Employees full retroactive pay without charge to any type of leave. The "shutdown" lasted 6-days as I recall, so no one ever missed a paycheck. ALL Federal Employees paid bi-weekly received their full paycheck this past Tuesday, October 1st. The first pay period to be affected by the shutdown ended yesterday (October 5th). Unless a bill is passed and signed, you will receive a partial check on Tuesday October 15th.
Any Federal Employees required to work during the "shutdown" MUST, by Federal Law, receive full compensation for their work. Now, the Government can delay that compensation until a budget is signed, but the Government must pay for any labor performed.
In case you were not paying attention, the House of Representatives UNANIMOUSLY (407 yea, 0 nay; this means every Democrat, Independent, and Republican voted in-favor)to approve a bill Friday morning granting full backpay to each and every Federal worker once the "shutdown" is resolved. Again, as in 1995, Federal employees will receive full compensation without charge to leave.
Oh, but wait, Harry Reid won't allow the Senate to consider the bill. Now, why is it that everyone in the House can agree on something but the Senate won't move?
So, again, your bitching about the "shutdown" is falling on deaf ears. I know you are whipped into a frenzy about this, no doubt by AFGE of AFSCME leadership or whatever bargaining unit you may belong to. Oh, another interesting tidbit there... The Federal Government is a RIGHT TO WORK employer - meaning you don't have to belong to the Union to work there. Would be nice to give everyone else that right...don't 'ya think?
Anyway, don't listen to your Union bosses and their bellyaching over the sequester and "shutdown." They are pissed because a percentage of your salary (if you are a Union member) pays their salary. For once, they may be plumb crap out of luck.
Quit your bitchen and shut up

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Since: Sep 13

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#32 Oct 12, 2013
Bounce
Racist Conservative

Elkhart, IN

#33 Oct 12, 2013
Every person in the white house needs to empty their desks, and turn in their keys to Rand Paul.
Racist Conservative

Elkhart, IN

#34 Oct 12, 2013
The blacks

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