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so ur of muslim faith? then riddle me this ... just out of curiosity. altho i am no expert on the muslim faith, i do take the initiation to learn & study the concepts of differnt faiths.
n the Qur'an. the book states that the muslim god is the god of abraham. but the god of abraham was yahweh. leading to the assumption that allah is yahweh.
yahweh is the god of hebrews, jews, & christians. it is well known that the jewish faith & the christian faith do not c eye to eye when it comes to the accepted role of christ (as well, the existence of jesus is ALSO acknowledged n the Qur'an).
setting aside the differences of opinion n relation to christ, the jewish faith & christians acknowledge the long lasting tie between our religions-yahwey. this acknowlegement has demanded the two faiths r inseperable. hence the constant support & ally the U.S. has w/isreal.
so my question is: if the muslim god is the god of abraham (yahweh)...the same god of jews & christians. and all 3 religions agree there is only one god.... then y do muslims go to great lengths to seperate their faith from the jews & christians? as tho their god is a different god... aka..allah.


He is the same God. He is the God who created heaven and earth. By the way, Allah simply just means God in Arabic. I, personally, don't know of anyone who goes to great lengths to prove anything about the religion. Are you speaking of the terrorists that you see? I'm simply asking because I'm sure you never see any other Muslim on tv being peaceful. Everyone that I know knows that we all share the same God. And, really, there are so many similarities between Christianity and Islam, but the main difference is that Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross and Muslim people do not. However, we do believe in Jesus. We believe that Jesus was a prophet.

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He is the same God. He is the God who created heaven and earth. By the way, Allah simply just means God in Arabic. I, personally, don't know of anyone who goes to great lengths to prove anything about the religion. Are you speaking of the terrorists that you see? I'm simply asking because I'm sure you never see any other Muslim on tv being peaceful. Everyone that I know knows that we all share the same God. And, really, there are so many similarities between Christianity and Islam, but the main difference is that Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross and Muslim people do not. However, we do believe in Jesus. We believe that Jesus was a prophet.
ok. so my understanding is correct when it comes to the connection of all 3 faiths.

& no. can we step aside from ur annoyance w/the media & its portrayal of the muslim faith? do u really think, according to my posts, that the information i gathered about these 3 faiths was provided by the media??.... does it even sound similar to what the media reports??.... last time i checked the news ... i heard no mention of abraham, acknowledgment of jesus n the qur'an, or that the 10 commandments r n both the bible & the qur'an. told u i am no expert ... hence my inquiries.... towards u.. not the media.

so anyway. allah is the arabic word for god. god is the greek american word for yahweh. sooooo therefore, allah is, n fact, yahweh. correct?

& aside from the concept that muslims dispute the idea that christ died on the cross ...... y does the jewish faith & christian faith share the same historic literature ... the old testament. yet the muslim faith (&yes i'm assuming according to what is projected by the muslim faith) rejects the old testiment & opts for the qur'an as their alternative?

& pleez dont answer w/the obvious .... muhammud vs christ.... cuz the old testiment does not emphasize any prophet as being a prophet from god n human flesh.

so n other words .... y does it appear that muslims reject the old testament? & culd this rejection b the very source of confusion b/n the 3 faiths??
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Sep 13, 2013
 
That's a great question. I wanna know, too. "wow" is still under the impression that we're getting all our info from tv. Like I said, there are all manner of media.

I'd really like to know the answer to Mudd's question.
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What's with all the white people hanging out at the Guyan Country Club? Don't they have better things to do, like complain about people who hang out at Starbucks?
I would be at the country club any day before I would be at a coffee shop with a bunch of foreigners
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ok. so my understanding is correct when it comes to the connection of all 3 faiths.
& no. can we step aside from ur annoyance w/the media & its portrayal of the muslim faith? do u really think, according to my posts, that the information i gathered about these 3 faiths was provided by the media??.... does it even sound similar to what the media reports??.... last time i checked the news ... i heard no mention of abraham, acknowledgment of jesus n the qur'an, or that the 10 commandments r n both the bible & the qur'an. told u i am no expert ... hence my inquiries.... towards u.. not the media.
so anyway. allah is the arabic word for god. god is the greek american word for yahweh. sooooo therefore, allah is, n fact, yahweh. correct?
& aside from the concept that muslims dispute the idea that christ died on the cross ...... y does the jewish faith & christian faith share the same historic literature ... the old testament. yet the muslim faith (&yes i'm assuming according to what is projected by the muslim faith) rejects the old testiment & opts for the qur'an as their alternative?
& pleez dont answer w/the obvious .... muhammud vs christ.... cuz the old testiment does not emphasize any prophet as being a prophet from god n human flesh.
so n other words .... y does it appear that muslims reject the old testament? & culd this rejection b the very source of confusion b/n the 3 faiths??


Muslim people believe in the torah (torat) and the writings of David, the Psalms (zabur) and the Gospel (Injil). However, when it comes to the Bible, they consider it corrupted, not being accurate as it was written. Because of this, God gave the restored truth to Mohammed which is written down in the Quran. We believe the Quran is the full and final revelation of God, and that Mohammed is the seal of all the prophets. Mohammedís writings are verbally inspired having in their possession an absolute perfect copy, so it supersedes the Bible. Because of this view, the Bible is always interpreted by what the Quran says first.

We believe that God came to the Prophet and told Muhammad (in revelations) what to write. God spoke to the prophet in Arabic, which is why the Quran is in Arabic. So, Muslim people believe that is the holy language. The Bible was written in English, Muslim's do not believe that it came that it came directly from God.

Hoping this helped answer some questions. I'm driving and trying to do this all at once :)
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I would be at the country club any day before I would be at a coffee shop with a bunch of foreigners


Do you just like to make comments to get people upset? If you go to a country club, chances are that you'll still run into some type of foreigner. Doctors, lawyers, pharmacists, etc make up a good bit of the people in those work fields and you'll usually see them at a country club. You have a lot of hate.
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I do have a some hate. That is obvious and the reason being I am watching America turn into a sewer because of our diversity. It's sad.

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Muslim people believe in the torah (torat) and the writings of David, the Psalms (zabur) and the Gospel (Injil). However, when it comes to the Bible, they consider it corrupted, not being accurate as it was written. Because of this, God gave the restored truth to Mohammed which is written down in the Quran. We believe the Quran is the full and final revelation of God, and that Mohammed is the seal of all the prophets. Mohammedís writings are verbally inspired having in their possession an absolute perfect copy, so it supersedes the Bible. Because of this view, the Bible is always interpreted by what the Quran says first.
We believe that God came to the Prophet and told Muhammad (in revelations) what to write. God spoke to the prophet in Arabic, which is why the Quran is in Arabic. So, Muslim people believe that is the holy language. The Bible was written in English, Muslim's do not believe that it came that it came directly from God.
Hoping this helped answer some questions. I'm driving and trying to do this all at once :)
ok. i like this. this is good. i will need sumtime to fully absorb ur post, cuz as i said, i have an extreme interest in understanding diff faiths, & altho i am more educated n the christian faith, i am no expert on any of them.

but christians, as well, believe n the book of david & psalms. & the bible was not written n english. it was written n hebrew... then translated to greek... then to english. the KJV is the closest interpretation we have from hebrew to english- which is y it is often difficult to understand the KJV scripture w/o a tru & clear understanding of christianity. unfortunately, as spoiled as we r w/english language, we r unable to read & comprehend the hebrew bible....hence the english versions.

now i will need time to consider ur response n which u replied ...so hopefully i (& others) will b able to understand more about the muslim faith from u. but i gotta warn ya, i am an inquisitive person lol.

until then... referencing ur belief that the writings of muhhamud r more accurate than the scripture of the old testament.... what do u say about the dead sea scrolls? do u find those original artifacts inaccurate as well?

& btw....ty for responding :)
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I'm dumb. I thought the Bible was originally in Aramaic, or is that the same as Hebrew?

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I'm dumb. I thought the Bible was originally in Aramaic, or is that the same as Hebrew?
hmm... not sure. interesting. mayb aramaic was the hebrew language. considering hebrew was a race... mayb aramaic was the named language they used.... deffinately worth researching. kinda curious myself.

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Derper wrote:
I'm dumb. I thought the Bible was originally in Aramaic, or is that the same as Hebrew?
Different parts were written in different languages, including Greek.
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I'm dumb. I thought the Bible was originally in Aramaic, or is that the same as Hebrew?
just a quick research... but so far... most of the old testament was written in hebrew .... a semitic language... like arabic... & a cuple books of the testament was written aramaic... old testament tho. not sure about the new testiment

so mayb the old testiment was written n hebrew & aramaic then translated n2 greek later? still tryin to figure out if greek was the original written language of any book yet.
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well all i no and will hold on to is' jesus said i am the way the truth and the life' no one comes to the father but by me' thats all i need to no ty..

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Muslim people believe in the torah (torat) and the writings of David, the Psalms (zabur) and the Gospel (Injil). However, when it comes to the Bible, they consider it corrupted, not being accurate as it was written. Because of this, God gave the restored truth to Mohammed which is written down in the Quran. We believe the Quran is the full and final revelation of God, and that Mohammed is the seal of all the prophets. Mohammedís writings are verbally inspired having in their possession an absolute perfect copy, so it supersedes the Bible. Because of this view, the Bible is always interpreted by what the Quran says first.
We believe that God came to the Prophet and told Muhammad (in revelations) what to write. God spoke to the prophet in Arabic, which is why the Quran is in Arabic. So, Muslim people believe that is the holy language. The Bible was written in English, Muslim's do not believe that it came that it came directly from God.
k. so the new testament was written n greek. teachings written by the early disciples of christ.... the new testament.....during the bynzantine era which was approx. 1000 years after the rule of king david & the final scriptures of the old testament.

now the torah (5 books of moses-genesis,exodus,leviticus , numbers & deuteronomy) where originally written n hebrew.... which u acknowledged as part of the muslim faith. yet the whole old testament was also written n hebrew. hmm. it also taught the belief that jews were gods chosen ppl. guess that didnt fly well w/muslims? is this the reason y muslims consider the old testament corrupt?

so anyway, lets turn to the qur'an. muhammud. a 23 year spiritual journey n which he claimed the angel gabriel spoke gods msg's to him- not that he spoke directly w/god. also muhammud & most of his disciples were illiterate so they recited his msg's & memorized them, therefore, the qur'an was not written til later, after muhammuds death. after his death & the battle of musaylehim, his surviving desciples collected the few writings they had.. continued writing the qur'an as they became more litterate & compiled a book that we now call the quran.

considering such facts, i do not understand the muslim logic that the quran is the full & final revelation of god....years afters the revelation of god had already been written ... the old testament.

his disciples also commonly described muhammud of often having "periodic physical jerking prior to each spiritual prophecies" & it was looked upon as evil possesion by others outside his group. scholars today believe that this periodic bouts of jerking culd have very easily been seizures.

last but def not least, what does it mean muslims believe jesus was a prophet but did not die on the cross. is that suggesting christ did not die? or suggesting we can not obtain eternal salvation thru christs sufferage on the cross? n reverse, r muslims suggesting that non arabic (non muslim) ppl can not b saved or go to heaven?

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k. so the new testament was written n greek. teachings written by the early disciples of christ.... the new testament.....during the bynzantine era which was approx. 1000 years after the rule of king david & the final scriptures of the old testament.
now the torah (5 books of moses-genesis,exodus,leviticus , numbers & deuteronomy) where originally written n hebrew.... which u acknowledged as part of the muslim faith. yet the whole old testament was also written n hebrew. hmm. it also taught the belief that jews were gods chosen ppl. guess that didnt fly well w/muslims? is this the reason y muslims consider the old testament corrupt?
so anyway, lets turn to the qur'an. muhammud. a 23 year spiritual journey n which he claimed the angel gabriel spoke gods msg's to him- not that he spoke directly w/god. also muhammud & most of his disciples were illiterate so they recited his msg's & memorized them, therefore, the qur'an was not written til later, after muhammuds death. after his death & the battle of musaylehim, his surviving desciples collected the few writings they had.. continued writing the qur'an as they became more litterate & compiled a book that we now call the quran.
considering such facts, i do not understand the muslim logic that the quran is the full & final revelation of god....years afters the revelation of god had already been written ... the old testament.
his disciples also commonly described muhammud of often having "periodic physical jerking prior to each spiritual prophecies" & it was looked upon as evil possesion by others outside his group. scholars today believe that this periodic bouts of jerking culd have very easily been seizures.
last but def not least, what does it mean muslims believe jesus was a prophet but did not die on the cross. is that suggesting christ did not die? or suggesting we can not obtain eternal salvation thru christs sufferage on the cross? n reverse, r muslims suggesting that non arabic (non muslim) ppl can not b saved or go to heaven?
Parts of the Old Testament appear in the writings of earlier civilizations. Those texts weren't first written in Hebrew.

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Parts of the Old Testament appear in the writings of earlier civilizations. Those texts weren't first written in Hebrew.
earlier civilizations? older than the hebrew language? where did u find this information? & which civilzations r u refering to?
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earlier civilizations? older than the hebrew language? where did u find this information? & which civilzations r u refering to?
Strange questions. A good example are the civilizations that flourished in the Fertile Crescent, particularly in Mesopotamia where earlier accounts of the Great Flood are found. You can go back further to the Indus Valley where extant examples of the Harappan language are found.

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Strange questions. A good example are the civilizations that flourished in the Fertile Crescent, particularly in Mesopotamia where earlier accounts of the Great Flood are found. You can go back further to the Indus Valley where extant examples of the Harappan language are found.
not strange at all. cite your sources pleez... not typical information..... evidence of circumstances that ocurred n a specific area is not evidence that the manuscripts or writings of the events originated from that area's native language.
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