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DANIELLE

Memphis, TN

#1 Mar 31, 2007
I have been on drugs sinse 1994, that was 13 years. Then I heard of the Methadone clinics, and like everyone else I thought, oh thats just substatuting one drug for aother. Then in November,2005 I thought why not. what else did I have to lose? I was already losing my Husband and my kids. So like I said I started in Nov, At that time you went up 5 ml. aday until you made it to 60. Then if you felt like you needed to go up any more than that you talked to your counslor, and they would deside if you needed to. So I went up to 90 ml. after being there around 5 mouths and thats where I'm still at to this day, and that was 17 months ago. I know they are some poeple out there who don't use it like they are supose to, but why hurt the one's that are using it right? I know it has saved my life, my marriage,and my relationship with my kids and family. Before I couldn't hold down a job, but now I work everyday, and love it. I've bought myself a new car, redecorated my house. I could not have done any of it, if it hadn't been for the Methadone clinic. It saved my life. My Husband even agrees now, When I first started he thought I was just going from one drug to aother. but know he sees, It really works. Please, don't close the METHADONE CLINIC! It's saved My Moms life.
Sincerly,
Danielle Qualls
&
Family

“Old World Breads”

Since: Mar 07

Logan WV

#2 Apr 10, 2007
DANIELLE wrote:
I have been on drugs sinse 1994, that was 13 years. Then I heard of the Methadone clinics, and like everyone else I thought, oh thats just substatuting one drug for aother. Then in November,2005 I thought why not. what else did I have to lose? I was already losing my Husband and my kids. So like I said I started in Nov, At that time you went up 5 ml. aday until you made it to 60. Then if you felt like you needed to go up any more than that you talked to your counslor, and they would deside if you needed to. So I went up to 90 ml. after being there around 5 mouths and thats where I'm still at to this day, and that was 17 months ago. I know they are some poeple out there who don't use it like they are supose to, but why hurt the one's that are using it right? I know it has saved my life, my marriage,and my relationship with my kids and family. Before I couldn't hold down a job, but now I work everyday, and love it. I've bought myself a new car, redecorated my house. I could not have done any of it, if it hadn't been for the Methadone clinic. It saved my life. My Husband even agrees now, When I first started he thought I was just going from one drug to aother. but know he sees, It really works. Please, don't close the METHADONE CLINIC! It's saved My Moms life.
Sincerly,
Danielle Qualls
&
Family
Why would they want to close this clinic if it is working. here is a forum you can go to and see what can happen if a clinic is closed. This county is Mcdowell WV the small town is caleed Welch WV. Here go on the threads and there is posts about drug problems. There are addicts that are clean and the support is great. There are some threads do not even post back to , they are really back woods. You have to read them and then you will get to know ho to post and what thread. Drugs are a huge issue there .

Hope this will help about the clinic. I have only lived in Martinsburg a few months . I have never used but I have a stepson that has.
Ryah1114

Shallotte, NC

#3 Apr 15, 2007
(con't)

As a Taxpayer....
I again UNDERSTAND that addiction is an 'illness'. BUT.... as we tell children about tobacco, alcohol, and such..... DON'T DO IT !! If you never start... you won't have to QUIT !! So... there IS ACCOUNTABILITY !! Whether it was to 'be cool'.... blend in.... peer pressure... whatever... EACH individual made the CHOICE to 'indulge' their first 'hit'. SO I as a taxpayer am suppose to foot the bill for this.... along with being ROBBED... Afraid to go out after dark... even afraid during light.... having to keep my doors shut and locked during the day, instead of having FREEDOM to enjoy fresh air by having my doors open.... so I won't get robbed, hurt, or worse !!
**The Exception being those that became addicted to prescription drugs through a physician. Perhaps the physician should be held accountable.... and pay for an in hospital detox program. This might cause the doctors to pay closer attention to their prescriptions and patients!!(before they become 'clients' of a clinic'. WHY do so many 'addicts' from OUT of State get transferred HERE... and become Huntington's Problem ... and stress on OUR resources ??
While these clinics in WV are "for profit"... the bill has to be paid somewhere....by someone! What insurance doesn't pay... has to come from state and/or federal funding.(Unless it is 'personal pay'... hence possibly THEFT to pay the bills !!) If you haven't guessed.... I'm sick to death of what this city has become.... while some folks are making money off my lack of freedoms that THEY have created.
I back Methadone treatment when used as a temporary treatment to DETOX an opiate addiction.(Followed by 12 step...and therapy) But not for Long Term (years) treatment for those that are AFRAID to face life drug free, or CHOSE to not try. Methadone addiction is a reality.... and a CASH COW !!
I also understand that those who are receiving 'relief' from such a clinic will disagree with me. That's Okay. My view is from the person ... not a CLIENT of the Clinic.... but 'enduring it's fruits'.
another good info site:
http://tunlaw.org/methadone.htm
Ryah1114

Shallotte, NC

#4 Apr 15, 2007
Another View ....
ALL Methadone Clinics in the state of West Virginia are "for profit" !! Plain & simple... it's Big Business. Very little incentive, since 'for profit' depends upon 'repeat business' to stay afloat.
Since this is an Opinion Forum, and an opinion from (and I say this with total respect) an 'addictive point of view' has been given... I will give a view (mine) from a health care worker, a citizen of Huntington, and a taxpayer.
From the health care worker standpoint, having worked many years in Emergency Medicine, in both the ER and on the ambulance as a Paramedic in FL, SC, and WV, I have had a lot of exposure to addictions of all types. I UNDERSTAND that Addiction is an Illness. But with what I have dealt with... I cannot have another opinion that in the way it is handled by the 'for profit clinics', the current Methadone Clinics are nothing more than "placing a band-aid where stitches are needed"!! I was even told by a Methadone Clinic client that "It's a LEGAL way to get high... and not get busted". He's been 'in the system' for 3+ years. He admits that he is addicted to Methadone now... and doesn't WANT to get off of it. He doesn't hold a job, the State (taxpayers) pay for his "for profit fix", and he's happy riding his bicycle to the clinic!! Of Course (most... not all) of the 'clients' are going to tell the Clinic staff what they need to hear. Another part of addiction. The clinic has what they want... and they are Master's of Deception.(Part of the 'disease') FOR PROFIT Clinics are like a well rehearsed dance.... They tell me,2..3 I scribe thee,2..3 ...and so goes the dance.
Methadone was originally to be a 21-28 day detox program to get people through the withdrawal effects of opiates. Now... many/most are "long term"... months to years. Please read from Narconon Southern California Drug Rehab Center : http://www.addictionca.com/FAQ-methadone.htm
As a Huntington resident...
I hate what this city has become !! Born and raised here, this used to be a 'safe' place to live, walk around, and enjoy. I moved back here, to raise my son in a 'safe town'. I can't often walk in or out of a store without someone asking for money. This past Wednesday I went in the west end Speedway, as I came out a guy wanted money. I said, "I only have plastic, sorry." I drove across the street to Pizza Hut. As I was coming out of Pizza Hut, the same guy came across the street, yelled at me, "I thought you said you didn't have any money b*%ch"!! Like I OWED him something! This is just the tip of the iceberg. Since the Clinic in question has been open... my father and my boyfriend's trucks were both vandalized. My vehicle was broken into.. damaged windows, and busted locks... to steal CHRISTMAS (that "Santa was to bring in"). Close $1,000 in gifts... but they also took two parts to my son's wheelchair !! My storage unit has been broken into... twice !! Numerous plants and yard items have "disappeared". My next-door neighbor had his door kicked in recently... the neighbor across the street pulled a gun on a guy that was trying to strong arm himself into the neighbor's house. And this has always been a QUIET neighborhood.
"If you build it they will come".... and they did !! Since the clinic has been here... the safety and security of life has CRASHED. We NEVER had Drive-by shootings... Drugstore break-ins ... and so much theft. I'm SICK of IT !! An Elderly lady robbed in the parking lot of Kroger (on 7th Ave) early in the AM. Huntington is becoming HELD PRISONER by the DRUGGIES that have No RESPECT for anyone... EXCEPT themselves... and their next fix !! Most of the Methadone Clinics 'clients' boost their habit "legally" ... while continuing to "use". "Clients" drive to the Clinic.... and drive away... under the influence. There are no stipulations for a "designated driver".

“Relax..Accept.. Enjoy !!”

Level 1

Since: Apr 07

Huntington, WV/Vero Beach, FL

#5 Apr 15, 2007
Another View ....
ALL Methadone Clinics in the state of West Virginia are "for profit" !! Plain & simple... it's Big Business. Very little incentive, since 'for profit' depends upon 'repeat business' to stay afloat.
Since this is an Opinion Forum, and an opinion from (and I say this with total respect) an 'addictive point of view' has been given... I will give a view (mine) from a health care worker, a citizen of Huntington, and a taxpayer.
From the health care worker standpoint, having worked many years in Emergency Medicine, in both the ER and on the ambulance as a Paramedic in FL, SC, and WV, I have had a lot of exposure to addictions of all types. I UNDERSTAND that Addiction is an Illness. But with what I have dealt with... I cannot have another opinion that in the way it is handled by the 'for profit clinics', the current Methadone Clinics are nothing more than "placing a band-aid where stitches are needed"!! I was even told by a Methadone Clinic client that "It's a LEGAL way to get high... and not get busted". He's been 'in the system' for 3+ years. He admits that he is addicted to Methadone now... and doesn't WANT to get off of it. He doesn't hold a job, the State (taxpayers) pay for his "for profit fix", and he's happy riding his bicycle to the clinic!! Of Course (most... not all) of the 'clients' are going to tell the Clinic staff what they need to hear. Another part of addiction. The clinic has what they want... and they are Master's of Deception.(Part of the 'disease') FOR PROFIT Clinics are like a well rehearsed dance.... They tell me,2..3 I scribe thee,2..3 ...and so goes the dance.
Methadone was originally to be a 21-28 day detox program to get people through the withdrawal effects of opiates. Now... many/most are "long term"... months to years. Please read from Narconon Southern California Drug Rehab Center : http://www.addictionca.com/FAQ-methadone.htm
As a Huntington resident...
I hate what this city has become !! Born and raised here, this used to be a 'safe' place to live, walk around, and enjoy. I moved back here, to raise my son in a 'safe town'. I can't often walk in or out of a store without someone asking for money. This past Wednesday I went in the west end Speedway, as I came out a guy wanted money. I said, "I only have plastic, sorry." I drove across the street to Pizza Hut. As I was coming out of Pizza Hut, the same guy came across the street, yelled at me, "I thought you said you didn't have any money b*%ch"!! Like I OWED him something! This is just the tip of the iceberg. Since the Clinic in question has been open... my father and my boyfriend's trucks were both vandalized. My vehicle was broken into.. damaged windows, and busted locks... to steal CHRISTMAS (that "Santa was to bring in"). Close $1,000 in gifts... but they also took two parts to my son's wheelchair !! My storage unit has been broken into... twice !! Numerous plants and yard items have "disappeared". My next-door neighbor had his door kicked in recently... the neighbor across the street pulled a gun on a guy that was trying to strong arm himself into the neighbor's house. And this has always been a QUIET neighborhood.
"If you build it they will come".... and they did !! Since the clinic has been here... the safety and security of life has CRASHED. We NEVER had Drive-by shootings... Drugstore break-ins ... and so much theft. I'm SICK of IT !! An Elderly lady robbed in the parking lot of Kroger (on 7th Ave) early in the AM. Huntington is becoming HELD PRISONER by the DRUGGIES that have No RESPECT for anyone... EXCEPT themselves... and their next fix !! Most of the Methadone Clinics 'clients' boost their habit "legally" ... while continuing to "use". "Clients" drive to the Clinic.... and drive away... under the influence. There are no stipulations for a "designated driver".
(con't)

“Old World Breads”

Since: Mar 07

Logan WV

#6 Apr 15, 2007
You know I guess I have leaved a sheltered life. I took the time to read all the post and I did not know that the clinics caused this much trouble.Also I did not know that they were for profit.I have worked for the "For Profit Hospitals" and I have taken my own oath that I would never again. There are clinics that are set up for people with aides and only aides patients can use them. When it is for profit why then would the state not set up "addiction only clinic" for addicts and handle it like the 21 or 28 day withdraw program. Then after the 28 days of treatment,the state or insurance companies has the right to pay, then there treatment is cut.If this was done and doctors would have to volunteer their own time free so many hours a week, this may control the sctipts to drop in perscribing addicting drugs. This is only a thought
RECOVERING DRUG ADDICT

Delaware, OH

#7 Apr 18, 2007
ME & MY SISTER GREW UP AROUND DRUG ADDICTION.WE BOTH STARTED USING VERY YOUNG.I QUIT WITH THE HELP OF A TWELVE STEP PROGRAM,SHE KEPT ON USING.SHE WENT TO TE METHADONE CLINIC TO GET LEGAL DRUGS(METHADONE).HER FIRST VISIT THERE WAS NO DRUG TESTING OR ANY COUNCILING THEY SIMPLY GAVE HER THE METHADONE,SHE WENT HOME WENT TO BED AND NEVER WOKE UP.SHE WAS 26 YEARS OLD.SHE LEFT BEHIND A 3 YEAR OLD SON,AND A 10 YEAR OLD SON.I THINK WE SHOULD SHUT THE CLINIC DOWN. MY SISTER DIED BECAUSE SHE WAS A DRUG ADDICT,AND THEY FAILED TO FOLLOW THE RULE OF DRUG TESTING.

Since: Feb 09

Van Wv

#8 Feb 7, 2009
How do you pay for it as a taxpayer? Maybe if it was a non profit clinic, But the patients are the ones who pay when they hand over their 14 dollars every day. And another thought.. just because your a patient at a clinic doesn't mean you arent a tax payer!! MMT CAN help an addict, as long as when they enter the program, they 1. want the help for them selves 2. realize that the clinic is in it for the money 3. Dont trust the dr every time they say "you need a dose increase" because that is their answer for EVERYTHING! And i am sorry that all these things have happened to you, but how do you know that the people that have dont it are people who go to a clinic and not addicts that are still using and trying to get money to buy their heroin, oxy's, hydro, or whatever their drug of choice is. I'm with ya though, the clinics need better restrictions and they need to be Followed. But they dont want to do that because then they might have to kick patients out of the mmt program.

Level 3

Since: Dec 08

Barboursville

#9 Feb 8, 2009
If you want to quit drugs bad enough.. you can. I have done it. One at a time. I am now drug free. Unless you truely want to quit, no other drug is going to help you quit. You are just trading one drug for another.. and apparently methadone is not a very safe alternative to stopping.

Anyone reading this who is still addicted.. I would like for you to know that living drug free is wonderful. All your senses come back and you will be happy again. No.. it is not easy. It is physically and mentally excruciating.. at first.. but each day gets easier. You have to really, really want to stop. If you don't, you won't succeed. I think this is why people are on methadone, for example, for years and years. They were not ready to stop when they entered the program.. they were just tired of trying to find the drugs illegally. The clinics, the way they are ran, seem to be for the most part, nothing but a legal way to stay on drugs. I was once addicted to methadone also. Not from a clinic. I bought mine off the street. I chose to do so in light of the fact the methadone is supposed to cure an addict the easy way. It helped.. along with the other two or three drugs I continued to use. Uppers to stay awake.. Downers to go to sleep.. Methadone to feel normal. It is a wonder I am still alive. But I am.. and proud.. each and every day that I am drug free. That is the payoff.

Once again.. if this only reaches one person.. the message here is.. IT'S NOT EASY BUT YOU CAN BE DRUG FREE AND HAPPY AT THE SAME TIME.. happier than you ever were while using.

Good luck to all users.. and their families.
former methadone user

West Hamlin, WV

#10 Oct 4, 2009
Methadone tx is the worst mistake a drug addict will ever make.Its more addictive than oxy's and as addictive as herion.so dont tell me it "helps you".The only thing it does for u is keep u from being sick if u get it everyday and lets u get high for 14 dollars a day verses $100 or more a day.but ,i have to tell the people who complain that "they are paying for methadone patients with thier tax money"maybe u r maybe ur not.It depends if the client acctually gets a job to pay thier $14 a day or if they robb anything and everything in sight there for causing taxpayers to pay higher taxs to replace stolen items.go two days without ur methadone and tell me ur not as sick or sicker than before when u used illeagally,then tell me ur not willing to robb and steal to get ur"legal" fix of the day.the sad part is these clients can choose to be "treated" with methadone or suboxone now, which is alot less addictive and is used as a slow detox method instead of being used for "long term tx
So methadone users,what is ur excuse for continuing methadone tx instead of suboxone detox,OH,I know,because methadone gets u high,suboxone will not,it only keeps withdrawl symptons at bay.It has absoultly no type of pain killer in it what-so-ever.Methadone is a very potent painkiller.And I feel for you for being addicted to mehadone,but realize ur pulling the wool over ur own eyes by not addmitting ur stil getting high,u just call it methadone maitnence instead of what it really is.If u were really trying to get clean,u would be taking suboxone,not getting high on methadone.
wayne co girl

Waterloo, Canada

#11 Jun 23, 2010
For u people n here who r downin clinic u have it wRong and make me sick. First the clinic is privately owned not state funded so ur taxes r not footin ne bills for people. 2 go there ... That shows how stupied u r . 2nd, yes there is some peopl there who do it wrong and r not wantin 2 do better but majority there r there 2 do better and get clean. Another thing, if u think crime is bad now if u was 2 clos clinic down it would b 20 times worse. And the crim is every where and doesn't just cum from clinic. I have been there 4 bout 6mths and it saved my life and gave my kids a better mother who could now provide 4 them and take care of them and b there an not b runnin round tryin 2 find a pill. U people make me sick and should shut the hell up.
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Wankers like MoJo

United States

#13 Jul 6, 2010
Who is this dude think he is?dirty at the Methadone clinic in Huntington. What is his problem?
ex methadone client

Nashville, TN

#14 Jul 7, 2010
LOOK people, i went to the clinic for 8 mnths, with my boyfriend. we did great for the first few mnths. the only problem was we were sleeping everyday i would go to work sleep there or at least try to and go home and sleep even had to miss a few days so i could wake the hell up. but i have to say one thing it is alot better than goin out there and finding drugs less crime and less trying new things, if i couldnt find a pill theni was ready to try heroin possibly any way i could get higher. we never saw our counselors and if they did they were trying to have me go up on my dose because i only stayed at 45 awhile then went to 50 mg. though if you cant pay for it they will throw u out. as they say "paying is part of your treatment" bull shit its more addictive than anything i ever done and believe me i have tried it all. so whether you like it or dont let it go it helps some and it dont help others it didnt help me but id love to go back because i cant stop buying drugs or wanting them you never do stop wanting it.... you will always be a addict, so before you use just THINK!!!

“Hey! Quit hogging all the ugly”

Since: Apr 10

The Bowling Alley

#15 Jul 8, 2010
I was on methadone for 3 years. I went up as far as I could. I tested positive for benzos,pot,and coke on several urine screenings. I was never kicked out. I am under the impression that the Huntington clinic is much more strict these days. This was back when it first opened. I payed cash everyday. I think it's a money pit. They bring in LOTS of money there. Methadone did not help my addiction. It made it worse. I even started smoking crack and I swore I'd never do that.The bottom line is, I had no desire to be clean and sober. Thats a tough thing to want until you hit rock effin bottom.My second attempt to come off methadone prevailed. I was on 150mg. I checked into a psych-unit and stayed for 15 days. But 15 days into methadone detox ,thats just when the withdrawls start to really set in. With methadone it's not like 3-5 days and you're all better. It takes MONTHS! Thats exactly why people become "lifetimers". There are no words to paint a picture of what hell that was, I accually prayed for my legs to fall off. And it causes a lot of mental torture.But 5 years later, I'm off that shit. I'll never go back. It was a waste of my time,mind, body,spirit,and money. One thing at a time I kicked. Eventually I got off the oxycontin for good. I had to move to the west coast but I did it, I'm happy to be clean. Believe me, they're is a life without methadone.You just have to stop being a pussy and get SICK!
Lisa Wytcherley

Kapolei, HI

#16 Oct 11, 2010
I've been addicted to opiote type drugs for 11 years which was the only thing to help my depression during an abusive marrige. I've tried suboxone and it seemed to work but couldn't use it long enough to really see the results because I could not afford it any longer. As I'm going to a methadone clinic to start that program now. But the way I see it is if it works for one person, it may not work for the next...doesn't neccessarily mean that one is better than the other,but when you're desperate to not be sick and stop using, you'll do anything.Don't judge someone who is only doing what they can to get by.sincerely..lisa
BrainDr

Huntington, WV

#17 Oct 11, 2010
The real problem here is that WV doesn't have a the infrastructure to help people with additiction or mental illness. There are only two state mental hospitials left: Bateman and Sharp. Both are overworked and a sad excuse for a states response to the need for mental healthcare. I would love to see the state open several drug treatment centers but the overhead is not worth it. The methedone clinics and major addiction treatment programs in WV are all run by private companies (i.e. Prestera, PARC-West, Riverpark, sunrise, etc.). How are your tax dollars being spent on these things you may ask? Some people have insurance but very few, once you get a diagnosis in many cases there are state assistance programs aimed at helping to offset or completely cover the cost of treatment. The programs a paid for with tax payer money with the idea, help people fast and get them clean and we will spend less money on them. However addiction has no cure and many of the programs in WV aim to provide stablization without providing for basic needs which may cause a person to continue using a substance. There are effective programs out there but they are expensive and I just don't see WV paying for it. We need to a mental healthcare revival in WV.
Dumptruck

Huntington, WV

#18 Oct 13, 2010
How about just putting the junkies on a farm and walling it off?
AlmostChildless

Itmann, WV

#19 Oct 15, 2010
ALL I have to say is that I about lost my son to drugs due to the bad choices HE made and by hanging with the wrong group. He was on very strong pain pills for years but still kept his grades up in college and even graduated BUT was heavy on pain pills. He had an injury but it was healed and all it was at that time was an excuse to get high. Bad thing is he was legally prescribed them by a doc (that i will not mention) that didn't really care and that place was shut down though. He came to me and his father for help. We heard about the clinic and it has literally saved his life. I'm very proud of him and hope this place never gets shut down because there's enough drug problems as it is and if they shut that place down i believe there would be a ton of more drug problems and most definatly a higher crime rate in an instant.

“Hey! Quit hogging all the ugly”

Since: Apr 10

The Bowling Alley

#20 Oct 16, 2010
AlmostChildless wrote:
ALL I have to say is that I about lost my son to drugs due to the bad choices HE made and by hanging with the wrong group. He was on very strong pain pills for years but still kept his grades up in college and even graduated BUT was heavy on pain pills. He had an injury but it was healed and all it was at that time was an excuse to get high. Bad thing is he was legally prescribed them by a doc (that i will not mention) that didn't really care and that place was shut down though. He came to me and his father for help. We heard about the clinic and it has literally saved his life. I'm very proud of him and hope this place never gets shut down because there's enough drug problems as it is and if they shut that place down i believe there would be a ton of more drug problems and most definatly a higher crime rate in an instant.
Thats awesome that your son is doing well. Just be prepared when he comes off it, heaven forbid. The problem will still be there and he will still be an addict and if he thought Oxy's were hard to come off of, wait and see how hard Methadone is to kick. The withdrawls last months last months, even years. Oxycontin withdrawl is a walk in the park compared a Methadone withdrawl.

Now I cannot speak if your son has a taper. I didn't do a taper, I came off 150mg at once with No taper. It may not be so hard with a taper. Good luck to you and yours. I hope the best for your son.
AlmostChildless

Itmann, WV

#21 Oct 20, 2010
Thanks, & yes it is another addiction to but he's alive and yeah he's being tapered. I believe his beginning dose was 150mg and now he is down to 70 mg. They are going to take him off of it very slowly but he gets a week at a time. At first he had to go everyday, there were a couple days he missed it and was very sick, that's y i want him to be tapered off of it.

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