Tea partiers test higher than liberals

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Silent majority

Alexandria, VA

#1 Nov 2, 2013
It doesn't happen too often that a dyed-in-the-wool liberal has the tenacity, skills or attention span to actually question his own assumptions and admit that they're wrong.
But that's what happened in the case of Yale psychology professor Dan Kahan, who conducted a survey of political affiliations and scientific literacy.
Kahan found that not only are members of the Tea Party knowledgeable about things scientific, but they are more scientifically literate than most of the population.
What makes Kahan's research most noteworthy, however, is the rare honesty with which he discusses his findings.
"I've got to confess, though, I found this result surprising," Kahan said. "As I pushed the button to run the analysis on my computer, I fully expected I'd be shown a modest negative correlation between identifying with the Tea Party and science comprehension."

Kahan's comments also support the notion many Tea Partiers hold that liberals base their opinions mostly on what the liberal media tell them.

“But then again, I don’t know a single person who identifies with the tea party,” he continued.“All my impressions come from watching cable tv — & I don’t watch Fox News very often — and reading the ‘paper’(New York Times daily, plus a variety of politics-focused Internet sites like Huffington Post and POLITICO). I’m a little embarrassed, but mainly, I’m just glad that I no longer hold this particular mistaken view.”

http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/10/yale-prof...
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Zzz

Proctorville, OH

#3 Nov 2, 2013
What are your thoughts on the other results of the study that showed liberal leaning people were more scientifically literate than conservative leaning people and the least literate were those who identified as conservative Republicans; or the part that displayed that increasing religiosity correlated to decreasing literacy. Also, what do you think about this quote from the study: "Again, the relationship is trivially small, and can't possibly be contributing in any way to the ferocious conflicts over decision-relevant science that we are experiencing." Or this one: "Yes, the tea party is just like everyone else -- which is to say, highly vulnerable to the reason-effacing consequences of our polluted science communication environment."
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Derper

Huntington, WV

#5 Nov 2, 2013
Silent majority wrote:
It doesn't happen too often that a dyed-in-the-wool liberal has the tenacity, skills or attention span to actually question his own assumptions and admit that they're wrong.
But that's what happened in the case of Yale psychology professor Dan Kahan, who conducted a survey of political affiliations and scientific literacy.
Kahan found that not only are members of the Tea Party knowledgeable about things scientific, but they are more scientifically literate than most of the population.
What makes Kahan's research most noteworthy, however, is the rare honesty with which he discusses his findings.
"I've got to confess, though, I found this result surprising," Kahan said. "As I pushed the button to run the analysis on my computer, I fully expected I'd be shown a modest negative correlation between identifying with the Tea Party and science comprehension."
Kahan's comments also support the notion many Tea Partiers hold that liberals base their opinions mostly on what the liberal media tell them.
“But then again, I don’t know a single person who identifies with the tea party,” he continued.“All my impressions come from watching cable tv — & I don’t watch Fox News very often — and reading the ‘paper’(New York Times daily, plus a variety of politics-focused Internet sites like Huffington Post and POLITICO). I’m a little embarrassed, but mainly, I’m just glad that I no longer hold this particular mistaken view.”
http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/10/yale-prof...
I doubt that a scientist would use the phrase "As I pushed the button...". I'm very conservative, and this reads like it's fake. A lot of conservatives are VERY smart, and there ARE some very intelligent liberals out there. I wish we could just lets the idiots and liars fight among themselves, and let the more intellectually capable on BOTH sides start working out the country's problems without resorting to such foolishness. It's beginning to sound like a playground pissing contest. "Libs are stoopid!" "No, teabaggers r stoopider!"

Know what? Stupid people are stupid. They just are. Politics has nothing to do with it. Nor does religion or lack thereof. Until we start vocally dismissing morons FROM BOTH SIDES, we're never going to fix the mess this country's in. Sigh. Aren't you beginning to feel manipulated yet? Wake up. Geez.
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Level 4

Since: Dec 12

Huntington, WV

#7 Nov 3, 2013
First of all, that study is about as complete and valid as tax-return completed by a toddler. Want me to believe? Show real comparative data, explain testing methodologies, and give hard numbers.

The Tea Party is bad joke that has had recent serious ramifications with its influence over house republicans.
The whole ideology behind that movement is a contradiction. They want smaller government but they want to interfere with women's rights, gay rights, bigger military, and the continued criminalization of prostitution and marijuana. They want less Wall Street and Bank regulations without realizing it has been the systematic abatement of those regulations ( started be Reagan) that has got us into the corporate-controlled mess most of us suffer from today. They want privatized medicine yet most of its members ( who are not politicians or work in a government job) do not have health insurance. They are against minimum wage increases without realizing the less you pay people the more they are dependent on government assistance to live AND to that point, are voting against the very gov.system that is keeping most of them ( the tea party members) alive now. Ted Cruz, along with his father who he endorses to campaign for him, are scam artists who have fooled a lot of people out of their money. Also on the table of staunch Tea-Party members are another couple of scammers: Michele Bachman and Sara Palin, who like Ted have been very successful in bilking money from the suggestible.
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Silent majority

Alexandria, VA

#9 Nov 3, 2013
This is the best part of the study:

"But then again, I don't know a single person who identifies with the Tea Party. All my impressions come from watching cable tv --"

So sad and ignorant...liberalism on display

I wonder, does the liberal Yale professor realize he’s admitting that he lives in an elitist left-wing fantasy world?

Level 5

Since: Oct 11

United States

#10 Nov 3, 2013
I don't care about test scores, college degrees, etc. I've known some people who have advanced degrees and don't know how to check their oil. Liberals are often that way. They are book smart with no common sense. Most of the dumb conservatives I know are registered democrats.
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Derper

Huntington, WV

#12 Nov 3, 2013
Like I said, dumb is dumb. Stupid doesn't favor one party or religion. I'm against stupid.
Zzz

Proctorville, OH

#13 Nov 3, 2013
Conservative Achiever wrote:
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".....Liberals like to use the toothless hillbilly stereotype for conservatives." ".......by foreign gay bandwagon riding unicorn lovers."
I really enjoyed the irony of this part of the comment.

I also liked how the study's author said, and I'm paraphrasing, that the debate the study generated was like arguing over who's the smartest kid in the special ed class.
Silent majority

Alexandria, VA

#14 Nov 4, 2013
Zzz wrote:
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I really enjoyed the irony of this part of the comment.
I also liked how the study's author said, and I'm paraphrasing, that the debate the study generated was like arguing over who's the smartest kid in the special ed class.
No, the test ITSELF was like argueing who's the smartest kid in the class, not the debate that followed it....

The point of this whole thread is to show how liberals put everybody in little groups and then conduct bigoted studies to see if liberals are smarter than the opposition...and then claim it is the tea partiers who are the children for reading it...

Liberalism on display....

Liberals conduct a bigoted test to see if they are the smart ones...

The test backfires and shows "teabaggers" having a slight edge....

Liberals then go in damage control mode and claim it was only a "slight" edge..

Liberals then claim that everybody is misinterpreting the data and that we are children for even discussing HIS study....

....and then unbelievably right after that he plays the religious card and claims the data shows that the more religious you are the dumber you are...

The bigger question is why is he "embarrased" by the results.(besides the obvious liberal arrogance)

Perhaps its because it turns out he’d formed his beliefs about the acumen of those who identify as TEA Partiers — from reading the New York Times, the Huffington Post and watching TV...

Well, that’s not terribly scientific now, is it? Lol

The test is a joke....and the joke is on the liberals who conducted it.
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Gosh

Huntington, WV

#18 Nov 4, 2013
This is great! The Tea Party people deride and condemn a study that actually gives favorable results for the Tea Party.

Obviously, the smarter Tea Party people aren't posting on this thread.

If nothing else you guys are certainly entertaining.
Silent majority

Alexandria, VA

#19 Nov 4, 2013
Gosh wrote:
This is great! The Tea Party people deride and condemn a study that actually gives favorable results for the Tea Party.
According to you fools it doesnt give favorable results...so which is it?

Who wouldnt "condemn a study" from a liberal that sets out to prove a group of citizens are stupid......the answer: you.
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Level 4

Since: Dec 12

Huntington, WV

#21 Nov 4, 2013
It all comes down to simple human existence and acceptance.
Those who live in rural settings tend to feel they have a more immediate control over their own lives, and therefore, require less outside interference. This does not make them any less of people, but when the issue of interfacing with others comes to bear, they will most often embrace those who side with them on issues that dont dictate change in their lives. After surviving like this for generations they conclude their way must be the best because it has worked out so well for them for so long and ergo any outside effort to change that, especially when those who pretend to be on their side preach how bad of a thing it is for others to suggest change IS because it will threaten their livelihood, will adopt a defensive posture towards those who would oppose them. Fact is some people are happy where they are, some are not. Neither is wrong, but I must point out the Industrial revolution, the most powerful and all-reaching era of human existence, caused enormous change in the ways humans, at all levels, live their lives, even by those who choose to isolate themselves from it. Like it or not, we are still in the midst of that revolution and still affected by it, so resistance to change is futile. The world is no longer made up of tribes of people scattered about, we are 7 billion and growing, our isolationistic attitude will soon be a thing of the past. Afraid of socialism? It will be here before you know it, because it has to, to secure the future of the human race.
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Silent majority

Alexandria, VA

#23 Nov 9, 2013
_-zaphod-_ wrote:
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Wow man. You sure shut right up.
Can't just own up to being wrong huh ?
Wrong about what? Liberals conducting egocentric tests to see if they are smarter than the tea partiers and then having it backfire?
_-zaphod-_ wrote:
<quoted text> Also ignored, of course, was that liberals scored higher than conservatives on the same measure and in the same dataset.
Lol..Thanks for proving my point. One look at detroit will tell you how smart liberals are...You better stick to the infantile "zaphod versus poet threads"...oh yea, almost forgot, get a life topix whore.
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Silent majority

Brooklyn, NY

#25 Nov 9, 2013
_-zaphod-_ wrote:
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Yep. You can't just admit it. Must suck to be you.
Its great to be me..while i'm flying a twin engine to go see steve miller tonight youre at the mall looking to fight some loser from topix...its clear who has the life and who doesnt...go get em' tiger.
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Zzz

Proctorville, OH

#27 Nov 9, 2013
Silent majority wrote:
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Wrong about what? Liberals conducting egocentric tests to see if they are smarter than the tea partiers and then having it backfire?
Or you posted something that you assumed showed how smart you are but instead you showed everyone just the opposite. At least the study's author was man enough to admit his assumption was wrong. I can't say the same for you.
HIPPIES STINK

Baraboo, WI

#28 Nov 9, 2013
Monica Lewinski couldn't stand to be a lefty anymore. It left a bad taste in her mouth.
Silent majority

Brooklyn, NY

#29 Nov 10, 2013
Zzz wrote:
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Or you posted something that you assumed showed how smart you are but instead you showed everyone just the opposite. At least the study's author was man enough to admit his assumption was wrong. I can't say the same for you.
Youre a mind reader now? You know what I'm thinking? thats a cool trick.

I posted an article without saying a word and then sat back to watch the cockroaches come out and spew their advice pellets..The only "assumptions" made were by you...
Zzz

Proctorville, OH

#30 Nov 10, 2013
Silent majority wrote:
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Youre a mind reader now? You know what I'm thinking? thats a cool trick.
I posted an article without saying a word and then sat back to watch the cockroaches come out and spew their advice pellets..The only "assumptions" made were by you...
Not a mind reader, just a reader of your comments throughout this thread. It's obvious what your political leanings are, though you may not identify yourself as a tea partier. Hide behind your insinuations and semantics all you want. You call me a cockroach, but at least I'm not a crawdad.

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