America turned its back on The Lord

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Christian

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#1 Sep 13, 2013
Now the drugs and poverty follow. The Lord will bless this nation again if people would repent and accept Christ as Lord and Savior.
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Christian

New York, NY

#3 Sep 14, 2013
_-zaphod-_ wrote:
<quoted text>How do you turn your back on an imaginary figure?
Because The Lord is NOT an imaginary figure.
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#5 Sep 14, 2013
Christian wrote:
Now the drugs and poverty follow. The Lord will bless this nation again if people would repent and accept Christ as Lord and Savior.
Why? Why would an all-loving God play favorites? If anything, the evidence in the Scriptures suggests that God pays more attention to sinners?
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#6 Sep 15, 2013
_-zaphod-_ wrote:
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How do you turn your back on an imaginary figure?
^^^^^ This.

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#7 Sep 15, 2013
Entertainment lawyer wrote:
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Why? Why would an all-loving God play favorites? If anything, the evidence in the Scriptures suggests that God pays more attention to sinners?
an all-loving god play favorites??... spoken like a tru agnostic.....suggesting, under the concept of an "imaginary God", that he is somehow responsible for our day to day discord. blame the human race for lack of harmony- not a God ur not sure exists.

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#8 Sep 15, 2013
KISSES OR MUDD wrote:
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an all-loving god play favorites??... spoken like a tru agnostic.....suggesting, under the concept of an "imaginary God", that he is somehow responsible for our day to day discord. blame the human race for lack of harmony- not a God ur not sure exists.
You didn't answer the question.

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#9 Sep 15, 2013
Entertainment lawyer wrote:
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You didn't answer the question.
oh. well. i thot i did. sorry.

guess my point was .... God does not play favorites ... humans, thru interpretation of scriptures, play favorites by placing jungement on others for one thing or another.

christian scripture, assuming this is the all loving god ur referring to, says repent & u shall b forgiven. meaning what is right is right & what is wrong is wrong... for everyone... not just one paticular group or another. & if u do sumthing wrong & repent u will b forgiven. this gesture applies to anyone & everyone, therfore illiminating any misunderstanding that god plays favorites. we r all equal. all capable of wrong doing & all can b forgiven if they so desire.
Derper

Huntington, WV

#10 Sep 15, 2013
Entertainment lawyer wrote:
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Why? Why would an all-loving God play favorites? If anything, the evidence in the Scriptures suggests that God pays more attention to sinners?
As to God paying more attention to sinners, Job would probably have to disagree. Talk about feeling like a human chess piece.

Of course, I certainly can't answer why there is suffering. The world of man is 98% awful. Those are good questions, and worthy of pondering. Even Christianity seems to have its Koans.

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#11 Sep 15, 2013
yea... & as far as feeling like a human chess piece... its all too easy to feel that way sumtimes. unfortunately, the confusion we feel-as tho its all a game for his sheer entertainment- is the downside that comes with having a choice- a choice to believe or not believe. if that choice didnt exist .... then the chaos b/n believers, nonbelievers, & denomintions of faith wuld not exist either.
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#13 Sep 15, 2013
KISSES OR MUDD wrote:
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oh. well. i thot i did. sorry.
guess my point was .... God does not play favorites ... humans, thru interpretation of scriptures, play favorites by placing jungement on others for one thing or another.
christian scripture, assuming this is the all loving god ur referring to, says repent & u shall b forgiven. meaning what is right is right & what is wrong is wrong... for everyone... not just one paticular group or another. & if u do sumthing wrong & repent u will b forgiven. this gesture applies to anyone & everyone, therfore illiminating any misunderstanding that god plays favorites. we r all equal. all capable of wrong doing & all can b forgiven if they so desire.
What you say makes sense.

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#14 Sep 15, 2013
_-zaphod-_ wrote:
If your god doesn't play favorites then why are there 22 verses re: Jews being the chosen people?
http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Jews-As...
How did that work out for them? ;-)
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#16 Sep 15, 2013
Entertainment lawyer wrote:
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How did that work out for them? ;-)
lol .... there it is. ;-)

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#17 Sep 15, 2013
_-zaphod-_ wrote:
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Way to sidestep that one.
The point is that being the chosen people isn't an example of playing favorites or giving preferential treatment to one group over another. God called; the Jews answered and were faithful despite recurring hardships. If anything the example of the life of Jesus shows that people have to be prepared to lose everything: at least everything that's valued by most humans. The idea that an all powerful God rewards compliant people, in a manner akin to positive reinforcement when training a dog, is sort of silly.
Derper

Huntington, WV

#18 Sep 15, 2013
God was patient and allowed Gideon to question and test Him repeatedly. Just to be absolutely POSITIVE that it was the Lord he was hearing from. I always like that story. From that story, I get that it's okay to question God and test Him, as long as you're sincere and honest about it.

So yeah, that's an example of Him greatly rewarding someone who was not at all compliant, not dog like at all. He gave us a mind and that ability to use it. He doesn't want us to be stupid or mindlessly obedient. That's how you wind up with suicide cults and such like.

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#19 Sep 15, 2013
Derper wrote:
God was patient and allowed Gideon to question and test Him repeatedly. Just to be absolutely POSITIVE that it was the Lord he was hearing from. I always like that story. From that story, I get that it's okay to question God and test Him, as long as you're sincere and honest about it.
So yeah, that's an example of Him greatly rewarding someone who was not at all compliant, not dog like at all. He gave us a mind and that ability to use it. He doesn't want us to be stupid or mindlessly obedient. That's how you wind up with suicide cults and such like.
Very good points.
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Derper

Huntington, WV

#21 Sep 15, 2013
Zaphod, I respect you. I'm not going to call you a "reprobate mind" or other such foolishness. I can completely understand agnostics, because to put it simply, they are saying "I don't KNOW". Anyone with any sense has to respect that.

But I'm pretty sure you are a confirmed atheist. That's different. If you know for a fact that there is no God (of any kind), then that's just the same as saying you know and understand everything in this world and all the universes beyond. That's just silly, and a bold conceit. In a way, it's putting yourself in a position of omnipotence. Now there's a catch 22 if ever there was one.:)

I'm not "conveniently leaving out" anything, because I'm not trying to influence you or anyone else. I don't think God has called me to proselytize. I'm just here having an interesting and open discussion on Christianity, and that's a rare thing in these parts.

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#22 Sep 15, 2013
_-zaphod-_ wrote:
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What about Lot's wife who was turned into a pillar of salt for not doing exactly as god said? Or how about drowning every man woman and child on earth in the Noah fable? There's plenty of other examples. You're also conveniently leaving out the whole cloud city heaven for the compliant and eternal hellfire for us unbelievers.
Discerning truth is challenging.

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#23 Sep 15, 2013
well said, derper
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#24 Sep 15, 2013
Most of the industrialized world has "turned it's back on the lord" and they are doing okay. Were just finally catching up.

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#25 Sep 15, 2013
^^who is "we're"??^^

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