Presidential Debate
BILLYL

Winchendon, MA

#43 Oct 4, 2012
ISeeStupidPeople wrote:
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FactCheck.org buddy... pretty much every "fact" and "figure" Romney spewed last night was proven to be false or "half true".
Its easy to win a debate when you make things up that make your opponent look wrong, and you look better. Romney gave no facts, he has no plan. He says he's going to do a lot of things, but can't tell you how he's going to do them.
So he either a) has a plan, but knows it wont be in the voters best interests so he's keeping it secret. Or b) is simply selling dreams and rainbows so he can get elected.
He's an arrogant jack off who does not have the best interests of this country in mind. He only cares about half of us... remember?
I refuse to use biased companies to prove or disprove facts.

It is owned by Annenberg of Chicago. Obama was on the Board of Directors from 1995-2001, and the Chairman from 1995-1999? How does this not have any bias? How can it be used as a reliable source of information?

"factcheck".org is run by the Annenburg Foundation which used to be run by Bill Ayers the domestic terrorist and good friend of Obama, who was also part of the annenburg foundation for a while.
BILLYL

Winchendon, MA

#44 Oct 4, 2012
ISeeStupidPeople wrote:
<quoted text>
FactCheck.org buddy... pretty much every "fact" and "figure" Romney spewed last night was proven to be false or "half true".
Its easy to win a debate when you make things up that make your opponent look wrong, and you look better. Romney gave no facts, he has no plan. He says he's going to do a lot of things, but can't tell you how he's going to do them.
So he either a) has a plan, but knows it wont be in the voters best interests so he's keeping it secret. Or b) is simply selling dreams and rainbows so he can get elected.
He's an arrogant jack off who does not have the best interests of this country in mind. He only cares about half of us... remember?
I do not want to use a biased company like factcheck.org to prove or disprove facts. Here is why.

factcheck".org is run by the Annenburg Foundation which used to be run by Bill Ayers the domestic terrorist and good friend of Obama, who was also part of the annenburg foundation for a while.

Obama on the Board of Directors from 1995-2001, and the Chairman from 1995-1999? How does this not have any bias? How can it be used as a reliable source of information?
BILLYL

Winchendon, MA

#45 Oct 4, 2012
I double posted because when I checked. It looked like my first post did not take.

In any case I am done here. Those with an honest heart will come to the right conclusion. As I said before. Facts mean nothing to those with glazed eyes.

I wish you all well.
BILLYL
ISeeStupidPeople

Springfield, NJ

#46 Oct 4, 2012
BILLYL wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not want to use a biased company like factcheck.org to prove or disprove facts. Here is why.
factcheck".org is run by the Annenburg Foundation which used to be run by Bill Ayers the domestic terrorist and good friend of Obama, who was also part of the annenburg foundation for a while.
Obama on the Board of Directors from 1995-2001, and the Chairman from 1995-1999? How does this not have any bias? How can it be used as a reliable source of information?
Ok, there conspiracy theory.... there are a ton of other Fact Checkimg sites that all say the same things.

No matter how you twist it, Romney is a liar. Half truths and outright lies.
robertfreeman

United States

#47 Oct 4, 2012
ISeeStupidPeople wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, there conspiracy theory.... there are a ton of other Fact Checkimg sites that all say the same things.
No matter how you twist it, Romney is a liar. Half truths and outright lies.
Obama is too, they both are.
Reality

Ardsley, NY

#48 Oct 4, 2012
ISeeStupidPeople wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, there conspiracy theory.... there are a ton of other Fact Checkimg sites that all say the same things.

No matter how you twist it, Romney is a liar. Half truths and outright lies.
Everything is a conspiracy with these tea baggers. Fact checkers lie, polls are skewed, birth certificates faked.
How do you have a rational conversation with people who live in such a fantasy land?
robertfreeman

United States

#49 Oct 4, 2012
Reality wrote:
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Everything is a conspiracy with these tea baggers. Fact checkers lie, polls are skewed, birth certificates faked.
How do you have a rational conversation with people who live in such a fantasy land?
The same is true about those in the land of "shovel ready jobs."
Leonard

Bristol, WI

#50 Oct 4, 2012
Wonder who wrote their lines on their teleprompts? Lord Rothschild or Lord Builderberg?
wait1sec

Kenna, WV

#51 Oct 4, 2012
ISeeStupidPeople wrote:
<quoted text>You talk an awful lot to not really say much of anything.

OBVIOUSLY if more people were working, more people would be paying taxes. But his desire to create jobs is no different than Obama's. Private sector jobs have grown over the last 4 years. Job creation is a big focal point of both campaigns.

Mitt has repeated over and over that he plans to create 12 million new jobs. Yet I have not heard one time exactly what type of jobs he intends to create, or how he intends to create them.

You know, he kind of reminds me of you. A lot of talk, without a whole lot to really say.

And we don't need a president who has suddenly abandoned his own political platform. And apparantly has a hard time with math.
And that's why unemployment is through the roof Lmfao right man...
TomT

Huntington, WV

#52 Oct 4, 2012
ISeeStupidPeople wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, there conspiracy theory.... there are a ton of other Fact Checkimg sites that all say the same things.
No matter how you twist it, Romney is a liar. Half truths and outright lies.
So let's elect Romney and see if he can tell as many lies in one term as Obama has. I doubt if he can. Obama is the biggest liar in presidential history.
Beldar

Huntington, WV

#53 Oct 4, 2012
TomT wrote:
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So let's elect Romney and see if he can tell as many lies in one term as Obama has. I doubt if he can. Obama is the biggest liar in presidential history.
OBAMAR KING
HOME OF THE WHOPPER
Reality

Ardsley, NY

#54 Oct 4, 2012
TomT wrote:
<quoted text>So let's elect Romney and see if he can tell as many lies in one term as Obama has. I doubt if he can. Obama is the biggest liar in presidential history.
How is that? Any proof of that statement? Or just what you've heard on Fox?
ISeeStupidPeople

Springfield, NJ

#55 Oct 4, 2012
wait1sec wrote:
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And that's why unemployment is through the roof Lmfao right man...
First of all, I'm not a man.

Second, private sector jobs have been steadily onthe incline for almost the last three years.

Markets crashed after Bush's term because of his horrible devisiond. Businesses couldn't afford to operate, so they closed down or down sized, and people lost their jobs. The economy suffered a major recession, that you can't just "fix" overnight. That is a Bush issue, not an Obama one.

A lot of you idiots really have no understanding of economic principles.

Keep listening to what they tell you on Fox news... obviously they know the truth... theyve only had to issue more retractions than any other news station or news source in the freaking WORLD.
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wait1sec

Kenna, WV

#57 Oct 4, 2012
ISeeStupidPeople wrote:
<quoted text>First of all, I'm not a man.

Second, private sector jobs have been steadily onthe incline for almost the last three years.

Markets crashed after Bush's term because of his horrible devisiond. Businesses couldn't afford to operate, so they closed down or down sized, and people lost their jobs. The economy suffered a major recession, that you can't just "fix" overnight. That is a Bush issue, not an Obama one.

A lot of you idiots really have no understanding of economic principles.

Keep listening to what they tell you on Fox news... obviously they know the truth... theyve only had to issue more retractions than any other news station or news source in the freaking WORLD.
So you're basically saying that raising taxes( like Obama is stating) will solve our problem? No wonder a female has been elected for president. Well outside of Obama he might as well be because he is one soft ass president
Freedom

Hansford, WV

#58 Oct 5, 2012
The elite are slowly shutting america down...more laws, more rules, more taxes, all in the name of "green".

Coal is this country's most plentiful valuable resource. If they can demonize the coal, shut it down, they raise electric rates, add in carbon taxes, the elite get richer while you get poorer.

Can't anyone see this?
BILLYL

Winchendon, MA

#59 Oct 5, 2012
Freedom wrote:
The elite are slowly shutting america down...more laws, more rules, more taxes, all in the name of "green".
Coal is this country's most plentiful valuable resource. If they can demonize the coal, shut it down, they raise electric rates, add in carbon taxes, the elite get richer while you get poorer.
Can't anyone see this?
I said I was done here and I thought I was but your remark is so important I had to reply.

Obama has said on many occasions that he wants Coal to be gone.
Here is a couple of videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

CJF

Ravenswood, WV

#60 Oct 5, 2012
BILLYL wrote:
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I said I was done here and I thought I was but your remark is so important I had to reply.
Obama has said on many occasions that he wants Coal to be gone.
Here is a couple of videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =a-wCC0Szx4gXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
How did it come to be that Republicans are so anti-green? There is a ton of money to be made in green technology. If the United States wants to continue to be a leader in the global economy we are going to have to embrace renewable resources.

Do you know which country has invested the most money in alternative energy sources during the past decade? If you guessed China you would be right. To keep up we are going to have to invest in renewable sources.

Even if money, future profits, and global positioning were not an issue... we, as human beings, should be stewards of our own environment. Do you honestly believe that after spewing toxins from millions of factories for a couple hundred years that our actions could have no effect? Do you?

We live in a closed system you selfish jerk. You can't just take a dump in your fish tank and hope for the best. Fortunately, most of us are cognizant enough to realize that our actions influence future generations.

Sounds like you need to drag your ass to the 21st century.
Reality

Proctorville, OH

#61 Oct 5, 2012
CJF wrote:
<quoted text>How did it come to be that Republicans are so anti-green? There is a ton of money to be made in green technology. If the United States wants to continue to be a leader in the global economy we are going to have to embrace renewable resources.

Do you know which country has invested the most money in alternative energy sources during the past decade? If you guessed China you would be right. To keep up we are going to have to invest in renewable sources.

Even if money, future profits, and global positioning were not an issue... we, as human beings, should be stewards of our own environment. Do you honestly believe that after spewing toxins from millions of factories for a couple hundred years that our actions could have no effect? Do you?

We live in a closed system you selfish jerk. You can't just take a dump in your fish tank and hope for the best. Fortunately, most of us are cognizant enough to realize that our actions influence future generations.

Sounds like you need to drag your ass to the 21st century.
The reason Solyndra failed is that China completely subsidized its solar energy companies to the point ours can't compete. They're planning on being the next world dominating power in the next few decades. Too bad the tea baggers can't see past the 1950s.
CJF

Ravenswood, WV

#62 Oct 6, 2012
Reality wrote:
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The reason Solyndra failed is that China completely subsidized its solar energy companies to the point ours can't compete. They're planning on being the next world dominating power in the next few decades. Too bad the tea baggers can't see past the 1950s.
Ultraconservatives are unfortunately what West Virginians have to deal with on a daily basis. The amazing thing is that these guys actually pretend to act on behalf of Jesus. Sorry to break it to you guys but Jesus wasn't planning on reducing funding to the poor.
BILLYL

Winchendon, MA

#63 Oct 6, 2012
CJF wrote:
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Ultraconservatives are unfortunately what West Virginians have to deal with on a daily basis. The amazing thing is that these guys actually pretend to act on behalf of Jesus. Sorry to break it to you guys but Jesus wasn't planning on reducing funding to the poor.
Much of the reason the poor is because of the liberals.

The Ant And The Grasshopper

In a meadow on a hot summer’s day, a Grasshopper was chirping and carousing his time away.
He watched scornfully as an Ant nearby struggled to store up large kernels of food and build a
secure nest. The Ant pulled overtime shifts to pay off his loans and accumulate retirement funds
for the future.

“Give it a rest,” the Grasshopper said.“Why bother saving and slaving and toiling and moiling?
Let’s party!” The Ant demurred:“I am planning ahead for winter and you should do the same.”
The Grasshopper blew off the Ant, squandered his supplies the rest of the season, and
abandoned his home while on vacation (paid for by tapping every last cent of his home equity
gain) instead of holding down a job.

When winter came, the Grasshopper’s pantry was empty and his shelter ruined from neglect.
The Ant, weary from planting, harvesting, and stocking up for months, was dining
comfortably in his nest.

Cold, hungry, jobless, facing foreclosure, and up to his two pairs of eyeballs in debt, the
Grasshopper limped to the Association of Community Winged Insects for Rescue Now and
demanded recourse. The office was swamped with thousands just like him. ACWIRN
immediately put the Grasshopper to work registering dead ants as new voters.
Funded with tax dollars from the rest of the meadow’s residents, ACWIRN organized mass
protests at the Bank of Antamerica, ambushed its top officials at their private homes, harassed
their children, and demanded that the meadow’s politicians halt all foreclosures (“We must keep
Grasshoppers in their houses!”) and outlaw discriminatory lending practices against starving,
homeless Grasshoppers (“Well-stocked shelters are basic insect rights!”)

The banking industry capitulated; the Orthoptera Lobby secured hundreds of millions of dollars
in housing earmarks and grants and counseling subsidies to support the Grasshoppers with the
shadiest credit and employment histories. Antie Mae, the meadow’s government-backed home
lending giant, fueled the push for increased insect homeownership in the name of biodiversity.
Its executives cooked the books and headed for the hills. Katie Cricket and the Mainstream
Meadow Media joined the grievance-for-profit circus, profiling Grasshopper sob stories and
drumming up ratings as bewildered Ants wondered who was looking out for them.

The banks drowned in toxic debt. More Grasshoppers fell behind on their mortgage payments.
Bailout mania and panic gripped the meadow.

Our little Ant, minding his own business, heard a knock on his door one late winter night a year
later. It was his old, sneering Grasshopper neighbor. With ACWIRN’s presidential candidate,
Barack Cicada, now in office, the Grasshopper had been hired by the meadow as a tax collector.
“I’m here to take your provisions,” the Grasshopper cackled.

But it was the Ant who had the last laugh.“I’ve learned my lesson,” he told his shiftless friend.
“Why bother saving and slaving and toiling and moiling? I’ve spent all my savings. I’m
walking away from my mortgage. Thrift is for suckers,” the Ant said as he headed out the door,

leaving the Grasshopper empty-handed

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