The new VFW????????
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Level 1

Since: Jul 12

Seth, WV

#1 Jul 26, 2012
I just got out of the military on the 28 of June and will be going to Marshall this year. I dont know what happened at the VFW and really I dont care. All I know is that if there trying to help out the community and Veterans than im all about it. I dont know who "sarge" is thats always posting on these but do you know what a postive comment is??? if you dont have one than at least try and be constuctive with your critisism to try and help make the situation better. But anyway if the VFW is adding new things for the younger vets than im down. im always up for a good party not really into the bar seen but throw some beer pong and pool tables up im there. but dont change so much to forget where we came from.

Thanks to all the vets who served and to those the support
willy

Huntington, WV

#2 Jul 27, 2012
David1988 wrote:
I just got out of the military on the 28 of June and will be going to Marshall this year. I dont know what happened at the VFW and really I dont care. All I know is that if there trying to help out the community and Veterans than im all about it. I dont know who "sarge" is thats always posting on these but do you know what a postive comment is??? if you dont have one than at least try and be constuctive with your critisism to try and help make the situation better. But anyway if the VFW is adding new things for the younger vets than im down. im always up for a good party not really into the bar seen but throw some beer pong and pool tables up im there. but dont change so much to forget where we came from.
Thanks to all the vets who served and to those the support
i totally agree with you.it was a great thing at one time and can be again.some people are full of negative thoughts you have to try and ignore.welcome back and good luck at marshall .
Sarge

Oak Hill, WV

#3 Jul 27, 2012
David1988 wrote:
I just got out of the military on the 28 of June and will be going to Marshall this year. I dont know what happened at the VFW and really I dont care. All I know is that if there trying to help out the community and Veterans than im all about it. I dont know who "sarge" is thats always posting on these but do you know what a postive comment is??? if you dont have one than at least try and be constuctive with your critisism to try and help make the situation better. But anyway if the VFW is adding new things for the younger vets than im down. im always up for a good party not really into the bar seen but throw some beer pong and pool tables up im there. but dont change so much to forget where we came from.
Thanks to all the vets who served and to those the support
Well then let me clear this up for you David1988. You want to know why I have nothing good to say about the VFW. It's because of their lack of support for Veterans. I know they run the local bars and go to the local funerals for Vets. That's not my problem. You can thank many different Vets and organizations for bringing the Veterans Administration up to its current level. The VFW is not one of those. I remember several years ago the VFW was protesting Veterans not being able to smoke in their rooms and wards. I thought damn these guys are protesting smoking while the VA is taking away travel pay, lunch for those that travel hours to get there and act like their doing us a favor for working at the hospital. The VFW is supposed to be a Veterans Service Organization. That's what they should be doing. Of course the guys that run the VFW at the State level have been there since the early eighties. It might be time for a change or an addition.

Level 1

Since: Jul 12

Seth, WV

#4 Jul 27, 2012
Well let me ask you this Sarge are you a Member of the actual post or one of the auxillies and if you are do you attend meetings? we can't change things at a major level if we dont have participation on the lowest levels. About the whole smoking thing. I agree there shouldn't be any smoking in there one it promotes good health to everyone 2 if you really wanna smoke the its to easy to go outside.( Im a Smoker by the way) And it might be time for a change but change starts at the local post and than it works its way up .....not the other way around
Sarge

Hansford, WV

#5 Jul 27, 2012
David1988 wrote:
Well let me ask you this Sarge are you a Member of the actual post or one of the auxillies and if you are do you attend meetings? we can't change things at a major level if we dont have participation on the lowest levels. About the whole smoking thing. I agree there shouldn't be any smoking in there one it promotes good health to everyone 2 if you really wanna smoke the its to easy to go outside.( Im a Smoker by the way) And it might be time for a change but change starts at the local post and than it works its way up .....not the other way around
I'm too old and worn out. I've donated myself and a sizable amount of cash to Veterans since 1985. You young guys need to get in there and help change the current status. I've always had an adverserial relationship with the VFW and American Legion. I have served as a lightning rod for those guys for a long time. I carry with me the names of 30 guys that I have watched die of horrible diseases from Vietnam. Most were my childhood friends. I realize I might be a little rough around the edges but it ain't because I haven't tried to change the status quo. I was asked to not renew my membership years ago by the man that is in charge of the state VFW in South Charleston. I agree with the change. Hell maybe you can just outlive them. Thank you for your service and your work for Veterans.

Level 1

Since: Jul 12

Huntington, WV

#6 Jul 27, 2012
Thank you so much for the years of contribution to the Veterans. if your ever in town sarge stop down and see me at the VFW in huntington so you can hear some of our idea and see whats going on. have a wonderful evening.
Wow

Flatwoods, KY

#7 Jul 27, 2012
To be honest there's alot of good vfws that help vets but neither one I'n Huntington are I'n that category
Sgt Bilko

Clarksville, IN

#8 Aug 2, 2012
Wow wrote:
To be honest there's alot of good vfws that help vets but neither one I'n Huntington are I'n that category
The VFW organization is very political where good members better watch their backsides. What Sarge refers to are those only out to promote themselves for state or higher offices by using very good causes. It is an insult to good veteran members who don't have to prove themselves to anybody. The VFW organization is quick to accept credit for other organizations successes. Don't forget, back in the 60'sand 70's it was the VFW that told Vietnam Vets they didn't qualify for membership because they didn't fight in a real war even though over 58,000 were killed. Using that benchmark Gulf, Iraq, and Afganistan Vets combined could only gain entry to scrub toilets or wait on tables.

There are very good members who want to do all the right things to help a brother or sister. Only problem is they better do exactly what the politicans want or they discredited and humiliated. These people will smile to your face and even pat you on the back but look out if you over shine them. I would be surprised if Sarge disagrees.
Sgt Bilko

Clarksville, IN

#9 Aug 2, 2012
Sarge wrote:
<quoted text>I'm too old and worn out. I've donated myself and a sizable amount of cash to Veterans since 1985. You young guys need to get in there and help change the current status. I've always had an adverserial relationship with the VFW and American Legion. I have served as a lightning rod for those guys for a long time. I carry with me the names of 30 guys that I have watched die of horrible diseases from Vietnam. Most were my childhood friends. I realize I might be a little rough around the edges but it ain't because I haven't tried to change the status quo. I was asked to not renew my membership years ago by the man that is in charge of the state VFW in South Charleston. I agree with the change. Hell maybe you can just outlive them. Thank you for your service and your work for Veterans.
Why is it always the REMF's that want the brave to follow them?

“Think Like an Animal”

Level 6

Since: Jul 12

Planet Earth

#10 Aug 2, 2012
Because they set the EXAMPLE

they gave you a model.,

your not following it.,

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Sarge

United States

#11 Aug 3, 2012
Sgt Bilko wrote:
<quoted text>Why is it always the REMF's that want the brave to follow them?
First let me thank you for your service. Secondly I see you've been around some of the "Boys" too. They know how to manipulate politics and politicians. For years the WV Veterans Council was in charge of the Dept. of Veterans Affairs here in West Virginia. They so screwed the system over it took an act of the Legislature in the form of a Legislative Audit to have those guys put in place a "Webpage" explaining benefits and where offices are located. Granted it don't help much but its up to you younger Vets to put this thing right. I've been beat up many times by those guys in charge. Their still there today.
Sgt Bilko

Clarksville, IN

#12 Aug 3, 2012
Sarge wrote:
<quoted text>First let me thank you for your service. Secondly I see you've been around some of the "Boys" too. They know how to manipulate politics and politicians. For years the WV Veterans Council was in charge of the Dept. of Veterans Affairs here in West Virginia. They so screwed the system over it took an act of the Legislature in the form of a Legislative Audit to have those guys put in place a "Webpage" explaining benefits and where offices are located. Granted it don't help much but its up to you younger Vets to put this thing right. I've been beat up many times by those guys in charge. Their still there today.
Sarge thank you for your service that allows us the freedom to use this site. Very sorry to disappoint you but old and younger vets are pushing for a Gulf War Vet for 2013/2014 JrVice which means 3 years later he would be automatic National Commmander. He's serving up lots of bs Kool-Aid and this guy makes the past "Boys" look like Mother Theresa. Pretty damn sad that vets are so gullible but as you know the VFW doesn't exactly attract the cream of the crop.
Sarge

Lindside, WV

#13 Aug 3, 2012
Well Hell, just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Its sad that so many Veterans are doing without the help they need. The VFW's should hire some "Service Officers" that are fully trained and start off new. The younger Vets are going to really need some help. So if you're right the Vets are in big trouble.
Sgt Bilko

Clarksville, IN

#14 Aug 3, 2012
Sarge wrote:
Well Hell, just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Its sad that so many Veterans are doing without the help they need. The VFW's should hire some "Service Officers" that are fully trained and start off new. The younger Vets are going to really need some help. So if you're right the Vets are in big trouble.
I only know what I have heard from members but people can believe what they will. You know how the system works and most of those with sky high goals are in it only for themselves. They will use anything or anybody to get there. It is bad when a vet sticks another in the back without it bothering him.
Got a email early this week that addressed this very point.

I drank with a wise buddy who said those who have most to offer sure as hell won't waste their time on the vfw. They are too busy trying to make a living.
jojo

Chester, VA

#15 Aug 3, 2012
I know an old broad who goes there all the time
Sgt Bilko

Clarksville, IN

#16 Aug 3, 2012
SARGE go to www.stripes.com
In the Search column type in IOWA VFW then go to the one that says 75 years. Read the newspaper article and the comments. I believe it makes the very point you have been talking about. Check it out then tell us what you think. I am not much at paste and cut
Sarge

Lindside, WV

#17 Aug 3, 2012
Sgt Bilko wrote:
SARGE go to www.stripes.com
In the Search column type in IOWA VFW then go to the one that says 75 years. Read the newspaper article and the comments. I believe it makes the very point you have been talking about. Check it out then tell us what you think. I am not much at paste and cut
You're right that was an interesting article. I totally agree. The membership is going to continue to drop until they get some people in there that will represent Veterans in their claims for compensation and schooling and what their benefits are.
no wounded warriors

Clarksville, IN

#18 Aug 3, 2012
Guys, this will really make you mad. If you still have Feb 2012 VFW magazine look up the wounded warrior VFW In Action on page 40 something. I missed this until recently until made aware just how some vets may use even heroes to get ahead. The 2 website photos are missing but in the magazine you will find the hockey game article w/ 2 pics. Not one warrior was interviewed or up close pic. The winning team warriors didn't raise their own trophey. It was a non wounded gulf war vet whose individual up close photo was included in the article. Same guy who is pursing future national Jr V that Sarge and Bilko I think were talking about. This pissed many of the vfw locals off royally because as one vet said the wounded warriors got used to publicize a photo oppportunity for a vet with big political ambitions at the expense of the poor injured heroes who bled in war for this country. This is just one example of many why so many veterans are saying to hell with the vfw.

tara

Springfield, NJ

#19 Aug 5, 2012
Well I'm all for the younger vets but they want kids in there under 21 and they are serving them and don't care and the bartenders are the worse in this town .the Dav is much better .
then and now

Clarksville, IN

#20 Aug 5, 2012
tara wrote:
Well I'm all for the younger vets but they want kids in there under 21 and they are serving them and don't care and the bartenders are the worse in this town .the Dav is much better .
I really wish service officers were the answer. Sarge is a good man heart is in the right place but the dictators rule and will keep it that way come hell or high water.

Dictators encourge them but later tell them now this is the way its going to be. Many who support the vfw are old timers wishing for the good old days to return. It is not going to happen because it is in the pits. Donate directly to the wounded warriors and salvation army. I agree the DAV is much much better than the VFW and to a certain degree even the American Legion.

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