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Obamacare troops planning home inspections

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Silent majority

United States

#1 Nov 13, 2013
According to an Obamacare provision millions of Americans will be targeted.

The Health and Human Services’ website states that your family will be targeted if you fall under the “high-risk” categories below:

Families where mom is not yet 21.
Families where someone is a tobacco user.
Families where children have low student achievement, developmental delays, or disabilities.
Families with individuals who are serving or formerly served in the armed forces, including such families that have members of the armed forces who have had multiple deployments outside the United States.
There is no reference to Medicaid being the determinant for a family to be “eligible.”

In 2011, the HHS announced $224 million will be given to support evidence-based home visiting programs to “help parents and children.” Individuals from the state will implement these leveraging strategies to “enhance program sustainability.”

Constitutional attorney and author Kent Masterson Brown states,

“This is not a “voluntary” program. The eligible entity receiving the grant for performing the home visits is to identify the individuals to be visited and intervene so as to meet the improvement benchmarks. A homeschooling family, for instance, may be subject to “intervention” in “school readiness” and “social-emotional developmental indicators.” A farm family may be subject to “intervention” in order to “prevent child injuries.” The sky is the limit.

http://m.teaparty.org/obamacare-troops-planni...
Silent majority

United States

#2 Nov 13, 2013
Hide those pills and weed and clean that house.

Obamacare and "forced home visits" arriving soon.

"A frightening report has been circulating regarding an Obamacare provision which will create “forced” home inspections with criteria so broad that “any family may be visited by federally paid agents for almost any reason.” The news is certainly alarming, but the real problem is deeper than just one more rotten ObamaCare Easter egg."

http://americanvision.org/9139/forced-home-vi...
Silent majority

United States

#3 Nov 13, 2013
And we wonder why the Teaparty warned us about the IRS and Health department training with assault rifles....

Now we know...
Gosh

Huntington, WV

#4 Nov 13, 2013
What a paranoid bunch of loons.

What's next, form another miltia?
Tea tards

Chesapeake, OH

#5 Nov 13, 2013
Wow, the level of stupidity has no bounds, please don't breed!
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liberal feelings

Smithers, WV

#7 Nov 13, 2013
It would be a good thing if home visits were mandatory.
The poor, Single moms, single dads, gay parents, and traditional parents could get more help and training to raise their kids properly and free condoms, birth control, and women's reproductive rights education about abortion, adoption, and other government programs.
This could benefit gay couples who are looking to adopt, perhaps making a way for gay couples and pregnant women to meet and have discussions and a path for more gay adoptions.
The addicted could get drug treatment programs or at least free needles to help stop disease.
The undocumented workers could get education on these as well as education about other government programs that can help them.
The elderly and the terminally ill can get education about hospice, legal, and financial advice for end of life planning.
It would also benefit veterans who have PTSD and also those with mental health issues by helping stop gun violence by determining if people are mentally stable enough to have guns.
Thus, if they aren't, action could be taken to have that person's mental health taken care of and also temporarily or permanently relieving that person of their weapons until it is determined they are safe.
This will benefit society an many ways.
hillbilly

Kenova, WV

#8 Nov 13, 2013
Silent majority wrote:
According to an Obamacare provision millions of Americans will be targeted.
The Health and Human Services’ website states that your family will be targeted if you fall under the “high-risk” categories below:
Families where mom is not yet 21.
Families where someone is a tobacco user.
Families where children have low student achievement, developmental delays, or disabilities.
Families with individuals who are serving or formerly served in the armed forces, including such families that have members of the armed forces who have had multiple deployments outside the United States.
There is no reference to Medicaid being the determinant for a family to be “eligible.”
In 2011, the HHS announced $224 million will be given to support evidence-based home visiting programs to “help parents and children.” Individuals from the state will implement these leveraging strategies to “enhance program sustainability.”
Constitutional attorney and author Kent Masterson Brown states,
“This is not a “voluntary” program. The eligible entity receiving the grant for performing the home visits is to identify the individuals to be visited and intervene so as to meet the improvement benchmarks. A homeschooling family, for instance, may be subject to “intervention” in “school readiness” and “social-emotional developmental indicators.” A farm family may be subject to “intervention” in order to “prevent child injuries.” The sky is the limit.
http://m.teaparty.org/obamacare-troops-planni...
I agree that child protective serves is out of control .They do take kids that should not be taken from good parents,who cannot afford a lawyer, and it undermines the child's sense of protection from the parent. Those free lawyers play the game of the boss,who ever that may be at the time.
hillbilly

Kenova, WV

#9 Nov 13, 2013
Now if somebody really wants too do something?They should go after violent video games.INSTEAD of taking food stamps ,the republicans congress should work on that.Because the hole they have ben digging is falling in on all of us.
Ben

Huntington, WV

#10 Nov 13, 2013
FALSE. god you right wingers make this too easy. at least come up with something that hasn't already been debunked a thousand times.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/homein...
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Ben

Huntington, WV

#12 Nov 13, 2013
By the way, I find it absolutely hilarious that this law is "9 million pages long" and "who knows what's in this law?!?!?!?!" but everybody knows all these bizarre conspiracies hidden within the text. Seriously, give it up. You look ridiculous.
Gosh

Huntington, WV

#13 Nov 13, 2013
Ben wrote:
By the way, I find it absolutely hilarious that this law is "9 million pages long" and "who knows what's in this law?!?!?!?!" but everybody knows all these bizarre conspiracies hidden within the text. Seriously, give it up. You look ridiculous.
They done heerd about 'em from a buddy who knows this stuff. lol.
hillbilly

Kenova, WV

#14 Nov 13, 2013
_-zaphod-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you make your own moonshine ?
Yes and I try to put a little truth in it too.lol
Ben

Huntington, WV

#15 Nov 13, 2013
Gosh wrote:
<quoted text>
They done heerd about 'em from a buddy who knows this stuff. lol.
hahaha! so true. every obamacare conspiracy that pops up on facebook starts with "i heard somebody say...(insert wildy inaccurate statement here)"
hillbilly

Kenova, WV

#16 Nov 13, 2013
Ben wrote:
By the way, I find it absolutely hilarious that this law is "9 million pages long" and "who knows what's in this law?!?!?!?!" but everybody knows all these bizarre conspiracies hidden within the text. Seriously, give it up. You look ridiculous.
I think you thank OBAMA HAS GIVEN US A NEW CONSTITUTION.CHILL out he did not do that for us.The reason it is so well worded is to keep cheap politician's from undermining the good he intends for this country.
hillbilly

Kenova, WV

#17 Nov 13, 2013
Gosh wrote:
<quoted text>
They done heerd about 'em from a buddy who knows this stuff. lol.
heerd is spelled hurrrad
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Silent majority

United States

#20 Nov 14, 2013
liberal feelings wrote:
It would be a good thing if home visits were mandatory.
The poor, Single moms, single dads, gay parents, and traditional parents could get more help and training to raise their kids properly
It would also benefit veterans who have PTSD and also those with mental health issues by helping stop gun violence by determining if people are mentally stable enough to have guns.
Thus, if they aren't, action could be taken .
"Train parents to raise kids"?, "Determining if people are stable enough to own guns"? Your one power hungry creepy little dude..

Thats exactly what i was looking for thank you. You realize youre a nazi right? Do you know what a nazi is? The National socialist workers party.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party

See folks...Its about control. Checkmate.
Silent majority

United States

#21 Nov 14, 2013
As charming and witty as these liberal responses are, especially zaphod heckling my mother who passed away from breast cancer last year, they are not effective debating tools. Nor is posting an article from snopes...

What this stems from is a grant program in the ACA designed to give communities money for implementing "home visitations"...

In classic liberal fashion they name the program "Affordable Care Act - Maternal, Infant and Early Childhood Home Visiting Program"...or HRSA 12-156

Sounds pretty good doesnt it...its supposed to. Except that its not for infants.

Heres some of the "children" who will receive these "benefits" from home visitations which includes tobacco users, former military personnel and "people who live in rural areas"...sound vague? Its designed to.

" a) Eligible families who reside in communities in need of such services, as identified in the statewide needs assessment required under subsection (b)(1)(A). b) Low-income eligible families. c) Eligible families who are pregnant women who have not attained age 21. d) Eligible families that have a history of child abuse or neglect or have had interactions with child welfare services. e) Eligible families that have a history of substance abuse or need substance abuse treatment. f) Eligible families that have users of tobacco products in the home. g) Eligible families that are or have children with low student achievement. h) Eligible families with children with developmental delays or disabilities. i) Eligible families who, or that include individuals who, are serving or formerly served in the Armed Forces, including such families that have members of the Armed Forces who have had multiple deployments outside of the United States." In addition, the Health Resources and Service Administration (HRSA) and the Administration for Children and Families (ACF) have identified the following programmatic areas of emphasis. Applicants may propose to address one or more of these areas in response to this funding opportunity announcement: o Emphasis 1: Improvements in maternal, child, and family health o Emphasis 2: Effective implementation and expansion of evidence-based home visiting programs or systems with fidelity to the evidence-based model selected o Emphasis 3: Development of statewide or multi-State home visiting programs o Emphasis 4: Development of comprehensive early childhood systems that span the prenatal-through-age-eight continuum o Emphasis 5: Outreach to high-risk and hard-to-engage populations o Emphasis 6: Development of a family-centered approach to home visiting o Emphasis 7: Outreach to families in rural or frontier areas o Emphasis 8: The development of fiscal leveraging strategies to enhance program sustainability For a more detailed description of each area of emphasis, please see Appendix A: MIECHV Programmatic Emphasis Areas.

Heres a link that goes directly to the government webpage displaying the exact text.

https://grants3.hrsa.gov/2010/Web2External/In...
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Agatha

Yawkey, WV

#23 Nov 14, 2013
The program in question was implemented, I believe, in 2005.

Announcement Number HRSA-12-156. The source cited is for the purpose of applying for these grants. If you dig a little deeper you will find this (under application requirements):

(7) Assurances that the entity will establish procedures to ensure that—
(A) the participation of each eligible family in the program is voluntary; and
(B) services are provided to an eligible family in accordance with the individual assessment for that family.

Simply put this means that (1) people who want this help can get it if (2) they meet the eligibility requirements.

No force involved.
Agatha

Yawkey, WV

#24 Nov 14, 2013
_-zaphod-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a nut. Everything's always so sinister. Ooh spooky guvment. Coming to my house. Just like FEMA setting up camps.
You're a joke
I agree with you, about this one and the other one you feud with. I am not even certain they are not the same person.

However, this thing with the "crude mom" jokes that all of you seem to enjoy should stop. Just think about it. You are on the right side of the issues and they give you plenty of ammunition in so many areas without bringing moms into it.
Grape Ape

United States

#25 Nov 14, 2013
if you need help raising them you should not have had them.
liberal feelings wrote:
It would be a good thing if home visits were mandatory.
The poor, Single moms, single dads, gay parents, and traditional parents could get more help and training to raise their kids properly and free condoms, birth control, and women's reproductive rights education about abortion, adoption, and other government programs.
This could benefit gay couples who are looking to adopt, perhaps making a way for gay couples and pregnant women to meet and have discussions and a path for more gay adoptions.
The addicted could get drug treatment programs or at least free needles to help stop disease.
The undocumented workers could get education on these as well as education about other government programs that can help them.
The elderly and the terminally ill can get education about hospice, legal, and financial advice for end of life planning.
It would also benefit veterans who have PTSD and also those with mental health issues by helping stop gun violence by determining if people are mentally stable enough to have guns.
Thus, if they aren't, action could be taken to have that person's mental health taken care of and also temporarily or permanently relieving that person of their weapons until it is determined they are safe.
This will benefit society an many ways.

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