Who do you support for U.S. Senate in...
Well Duh

Ashburn, VA

#18454 Jun 24, 2013
Don't worry people, Snowdan can not hide. We have a cover of being a capitolist, free country that believe in human rights. But with Obama is office we are also a socialist and turning communist country that loves all Muslims. So we are connected all over, for we stand for nothing.

“Of Course I Can”

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Abescon, NJ

#18455 Jun 24, 2013
Harve Wall Banger wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely. Especially China, now Russia and maybe Cuba. He is not going to Gitmo where he belongs. He is possibly Havana. Don't think that is a US controlled territory. Nope. Communist Cuba.
Venezueala was also on the list.

Sounds like some freedom loving countries there...China, Russia, Cuba, and Venezuala. Maybe he could go to Iran if he's on a shopping spree to see who will pay him the most.
Arthur

United States

#18456 Jun 24, 2013
All you gun owners better think about this. A government that secretly grants itself unconstitutional powers and violates the Bill of Rights under the claim of "for our own good and safety" could just as easily grant itself unconstitutional powers to confiscate guns "for our own good and safety". That is why this issue is so important. You can not give an inch when it comes to Constitutional violations or it is over, the American way of life is gone forever. Wake up people, forget Snowden and focus on the real issue, the governments illegal abuse of power.
Arthur

United States

#18457 Jun 24, 2013
He hasnt gone to Cuba or Venezuela, more governmental lies and you idiots believe it. I was waiting for Iran and North Korea to be mentioned next, anything they can do to assassinate his character and throw attention off their ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. SNOWDEN IS A PATRIOT!

“Of Course I Can”

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Abescon, NJ

#18458 Jun 24, 2013
Harve Wall Banger wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely.
Something is wrong here, you and I agree with something. I think we have misunderstood each other. I might not speak as eloquently as you or spell as good but we do agree on more issues than you might think.
Actually, we kind of came to this understanding once before. I'm not a "liberal" but I am a democrat. I'm very much middle of the road and would vote for a moderate republican if one ever showed up. I've voted for republicans almost as much as I have democrats in my life. It's just this current crop of republicans that I have a problem with. Generally speaking, back before 2000, republicans were pretty good.

In general, I think we, as a country, went insane after 9/11. The internet hasn't helped things much either. We're changing as a country and I don't much like the direction that we are going.

Neither side has the answer but for now, one is just slightly more palatable than the other. Emphasis on the word "slightly."
Arthur

United States

#18459 Jun 24, 2013
Just the other day you idiots were saying Russia wanst our enemy when I said they were, now when it comes to Snowden they are suddenly our evil arch enemy and he is a traitor for flying there. Something else I would like to point out, the other day I objected to the US buying over $500,000,000.00 worth of Russian made military hardware and you guys said that was stupid because they werent an enemy. Now the same government that is buying half a billion dollars worth of Russian helicopters, greatly helping their economy and their military, says Snowden is a traitor for going to such a hostile country that hates America. SO which is it? If they are so hostile why are we funding their military complex? Laughable. They will say anything to anyone to further and cover their corruption and you defend it.

“Of Course I Can”

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Abescon, NJ

#18460 Jun 24, 2013
Ummmm....Art, a law is not going to change that if they decide to "take your guns away." Remember, they have bpdy armor, automatic weapons, tanks and jets. Your musket ain't going to make a bit of difference if it comes to that. Laws and the constitution aren't going to make a damn bit of difference if they decide to take your guns away.

Did you happen to notice the police force in Boston after the Boston bombing? They were fully militarized. They did that on your taxpayer nickel too. Gun laws ain't going to matter one way or another if the government decides to take your guns away so fear mongering will serve no purpose.
Arthur wrote:
All you gun owners better think about this. A government that secretly grants itself unconstitutional powers and violates the Bill of Rights under the claim of "for our own good and safety" could just as easily grant itself unconstitutional powers to confiscate guns "for our own good and safety". That is why this issue is so important. You can not give an inch when it comes to Constitutional violations or it is over, the American way of life is gone forever. Wake up people, forget Snowden and focus on the real issue, the governments illegal abuse of power.

“Of Course I Can”

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Abescon, NJ

#18461 Jun 24, 2013
I think you're in love, Artie.

;)

Maybe you can ride in on your white horse and save your damsel in distress.
Arthur wrote:
He hasnt gone to Cuba or Venezuela, more governmental lies and you idiots believe it. I was waiting for Iran and North Korea to be mentioned next, anything they can do to assassinate his character and throw attention off their ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. SNOWDEN IS A PATRIOT!

“what it is, is what it is!”

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#18462 Jun 24, 2013
Sundog512 wrote:
<quoted text>Venezueala was also on the list.

Sounds like some freedom loving countries there...China, Russia, Cuba, and Venezuala. Maybe he could go to Iran if he's on a shopping spree to see who will pay him the most.
I w

“Of Course I Can”

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Abescon, NJ

#18463 Jun 24, 2013
Actually, what I said was that maybe the US government got a better deal on the Russian helicopters than they could have gotten on American helicopters.

Russia is not an enemy and neither is China, but they damn sure are not our friends either. If you think for one minute that they wouldn't use the information Snowden has to exploit any weaknesses in our cyber-security you are every bit as crazy as you sound on here.

You can also bet your conspiracy theory loving ass that if the shoe was on the other foot, we would exploit any weaknesses in the Chinese or Russian systems.

Now quit being all butt hurt, Art. This is pretty simple. You say Snowden is a hero and some of us are saying that there is nothing heroic about someone who could jeopardize our security by giving information to countries who might use that against us. There's nothing heroic about that.
Arthur wrote:
Just the other day you idiots were saying Russia wanst our enemy when I said they were, now when it comes to Snowden they are suddenly our evil arch enemy and he is a traitor for flying there. Something else I would like to point out, the other day I objected to the US buying over $500,000,000.00 worth of Russian made military hardware and you guys said that was stupid because they werent an enemy. Now the same government that is buying half a billion dollars worth of Russian helicopters, greatly helping their economy and their military, says Snowden is a traitor for going to such a hostile country that hates America. SO which is it? If they are so hostile why are we funding their military complex? Laughable. They will say anything to anyone to further and cover their corruption and you defend it.

“what it is, is what it is!”

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#18464 Jun 24, 2013
Sundog512 wrote:
<quoted text>Venezueala was also on the list.

Sounds like some freedom loving countries there...China, Russia, Cuba, and Venezuala. Maybe he could go to Iran if he's on a shopping spree to see who will pay him the most.
I wonder where he is getting all this money to travel around the world. Do you think China, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela or maybe Iran might be paying him. Hmm I wonder.

“what it is, is what it is!”

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#18465 Jun 24, 2013
Arthur wrote:
All you gun owners better think about this. A government that secretly grants itself unconstitutional powers and violates the Bill of Rights under the claim of "for our own good and safety" could just as easily grant itself unconstitutional powers to confiscate guns "for our own good and safety". That is why this issue is so important. You can not give an inch when it comes to Constitutional violations or it is over, the American way of life is gone forever. Wake up people, forget Snowden and focus on the real issue, the governments illegal abuse of power.
I agree with you about the powers they have abused. But don't make Snowden a patriot. He may have been able to be called that here in the US. Not when he leaves our country and goes to a Communist country and then starts running his mouth. He is a traitor and he is running around with a smile on his face doing it. Even his own father has called him out on it.
Arthur

United States

#18466 Jun 24, 2013
Sundog512 wrote:
Actually, what I said was that maybe the US government got a better deal on the Russian helicopters than they could have gotten on American helicopters.
Russia is not an enemy and neither is China, but they damn sure are not our friends either. If you think for one minute that they wouldn't use the information Snowden has to exploit any weaknesses in our cyber-security you are every bit as crazy as you sound on here.
You can also bet your conspiracy theory loving ass that if the shoe was on the other foot, we would exploit any weaknesses in the Chinese or Russian systems.
Now quit being all butt hurt, Art. This is pretty simple. You say Snowden is a hero and some of us are saying that there is nothing heroic about someone who could jeopardize our security by giving information to countries who might use that against us. There's nothing heroic about that.
<quoted text>
More lies spewed by the government and repeated by simpletons. Snowden gave the information to an American journalist working for a British newspaper, that is it. The government have idiots falsely believing he gave information to the enemy, they throw around words like Cuba and China and poof, he is somehow a bad guy now. That is their way of throwing off attention to the slow minded, and it obviously works. Here we are talking about Snowden when we should be talking about the illegal power the government secretly granted itself. A power that is directly denied to them under the 4th amendment. He is a hero. I will admit he did deliver a serious blow to our national security, but only by revealing the illegal activities our government does in secret for our own "protection". Their tyranny and corruption is in jeopardy when the people know the truth. That is scary. And the brainless shrug it off. We are in serious trouble

“Of Course I Can”

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Abescon, NJ

#18467 Jun 24, 2013
Harve Wall Banger wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you about the powers they have abused. But don't make Snowden a patriot. He may have been able to be called that here in the US. Not when he leaves our country and goes to a Communist country and then starts running his mouth. He is a traitor and he is running around with a smile on his face doing it. Even his own father has called him out on it.
That's exactly my point. A lot of us were against the Patriot Act for this very reason, but it was passed and it's the law of the land. Abuses were inevitable. But that's not the issue. The issue is that these people are saying Snowden is a hero when he is not. He had all sorts of options that might have made him a hero, but flying to countries that could use this information to harm us was not the best choice this "hero" could have made. I think the guy's an opportunist who is out to see who will give him the best deal.
Arthur

United States

#18468 Jun 24, 2013
BREAKING NEWS**********

AP@
Monday, June 24 2013
Washington, D.C.
By Dick Cheney

The government has secretly granted itself the power to seize all assault rifles and any semi-automatics that can hold more than 10 rounds. People are ordered to turn over their weapons to the nearest federal office or face the wrath of the military. According to a government spokesperson, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, this is being done for to keep everyone safer. Mindless zombie greeted the news with jubilation, shooting off fireworks and cheering, others shrugged it off. "Every country does it and have for a long time, whats the big deal? Who needs the Constitution anyway?" Harvey of Topix county was quoted as saying. Additional reporting from Nancy Pelosi and Eric Holder

Full story at 11.

BREAKING NEWS**********
Ben Arnold

Princeton, WV

#18469 Jun 24, 2013
Snowden is a hero to me.
Arthur

United States

#18470 Jun 24, 2013
SNOWDEN IS A TRUE PATRIOT! Run hero run, you exposed the Gestapo. They are above the law.

“what it is, is what it is!”

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#18471 Jun 24, 2013
Arthur wrote:
<quoted text>More lies spewed by the government and repeated by simpletons. Snowden gave the information to an American journalist working for a British newspaper, that is it. The government have idiots falsely believing he gave information to the enemy, they throw around words like Cuba and China and poof, he is somehow a bad guy now. That is their way of throwing off attention to the slow minded, and it obviously works. Here we are talking about Snowden when we should be talking about the illegal power the government secretly granted itself. A power that is directly denied to them under the 4th amendment. He is a hero. I will admit he did deliver a serious blow to our national security, but only by revealing the illegal activities our government does in secret for our own "protection". Their tyranny and corruption is in jeopardy when the people know the truth. That is scary. And the brainless shrug it off. We are in serious trouble
Are you nuts. The man has a thumb drive full of information. Don't you think it could have been copied and gave to China while in Hong Kong. Do you honestly think the Chinese government would allow him to leave without something in return? What country controls Hong Kong? China. Why do you think he is going to Russia next. China and Russia are sort of allies and vote down any resolutions that we come up with. Now Russia are going to have him for a while and extract info from him. Then they will pay him for his trip to the next hell hole for him to run his mouth. I have said all along what the government is doing is wrong. But two wrongs don't make anything right, especially when you are talking to people would love to watch the US look bad and set us back a few years.

“what it is, is what it is!”

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#18472 Jun 24, 2013
Sundog512 wrote:
<quoted text>That's exactly my point. A lot of us were against the Patriot Act for this very reason, but it was passed and it's the law of the land. Abuses were inevitable. But that's not the issue. The issue is that these people are saying Snowden is a hero when he is not. He had all sorts of options that might have made him a hero, but flying to countries that could use this information to harm us was not the best choice this "hero" could have made. I think the guy's an opportunist who is out to see who will give him the best deal.
And get his 15 minutes of fame. Yep he would look pretty good with an orange jumpsuit at Fort Leavenworth, Ks. At least for oh lets say the rest of his sorry life.
Arthur

United States

#18473 Jun 24, 2013
From the reporter who broke the story.

MR. GREENWALD: Right. This is what the U.S. government, what you just-- what you just-- that the claim that you just referenced has been saying for decades. They said the same thing about Daniel Ellsberg. They said the same thing about whoever leaked the Bush NSA eavesdropping program to The New York Times in 2005 or who told The Washington Post’s Dana Priest about CIA black sites. This is how the government always tries to protect themselves from transparency is by accusing those who bring it of endangering national security. There’s been nothing that has been revealed that has been remotely endangering of national security. The only thing people who have learned anything are the American people, who have learned the spying apparatus is directed at them. But let me just quickly say it isn’t Edward Snowden who’s making the decisions about what has published. He didn’t simply upload these documents to the internet or pass them to adversary governments, which is what he could have done, had he been inclined or had his motive been to harm the United States. He came to two newspapers The Guardian and The Washington Post and said I want you to be extremely careful about what it is that you publish and what it is that you don’t publish. Only publish what Americans should know, but don’t harm national security. And we have withheld a majority of things that he gave us pursuant not only to his instruction, but to our duty as journalists. That’s what whistleblowers and journalists do every single day, David. That’s how Americans have learned about wrongdoing on the part of the U.S. government, through this process.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Huntington Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Questions About Flying On A Airplane 12 min radio ga ga 37
America Held Hostage Day 33 53 min MarkJ- 10
Baltimore Street drugs 53 min Looking 20
Why won't HPD followup on drug dealer tip line 1 hr They cant do it a... 5
Rioting erupts in immigrant Swedish suburb 1 hr swede 4
When all the illegals are sent back 1 hr Barney 1
HPV vaccine (Jun '15) 1 hr Karma 56
What time does unemployment money show up on de... (Dec '10) 17 hr Kstro 334

Huntington Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Huntington Mortgages