I still live in a coal mining state although not WVa. Daddy only had girls and at that time women were not allowed to be miners, he always chuckled about that but I do digress. There is a very large well known College in this area that due to government funding has developed what is called a Coal Development Park. This whole large complex is trying to find ways of using American high Sulfur coal. They are trying to develop ways of stripping the toxic fums from burning this coal and other ways of using it that are environmentally safe. It seems to me that as much money as the mine owners make that they would find being involved in this type of research would be to their benefit. This is also the type of funding that Romney is talking about stopping.<quoted text> So well said and easy to tell you know about the sacrifices of a coal miner and his family first hand. I'm sorry about your Dad. As a former health care worker in WV, I saw way too many men with black lung, their barrel chests, stooped posture and struggle for breath." I just think there could be a middle ground. Not all or nothing. I've also seen first hand how the rich coal barons work the men in unsafe conditions. pay off desreputable inspectors and yes, rape our beautiful state. But, do you think the industry can be done safely and in a GREEN manner? I also am loathe to see these hard working proud men on a welfare line or on foodstamps. We are going to have to come to some middle ground sometime. Tourism will not carry this state and it's workers. How about the filth in the air in the Charleston valley. We could go on and on. I'm not for Obama or Romney. What are we to do??
#9653 Oct 15, 2012
#9654 Oct 15, 2012
REALLY? informed Citizen??? How inappropriate!!! This is exactly how Romney will get votes from people that don't really know how the government is run. There are three governing branches to our government. The President The Senate The House when all three are ruled by one party That party can do or undo any law or regulation it wants to. Everyone seems to blame a setting President for everything that goes wrong or doesn't get done but it takes the Senate and the House to approve of anything before it ever gets to the President's office for signing. That's why the Republicans have been able to stop beneficial legislation the passed few years. One party does not control both Senate and House.
#9655 Oct 15, 2012
Voting Raese Because he's not one of those oppressive 'socialist' do nothing constructive, but everything DEstructive Democrats!!!
#9656 Oct 15, 2012
Boy liberal deceit and lies never stop, eh?? Malarkey. Romney will stop Obama's socialism in it's path. You give your rights up for oppression if you want. The majority of Americans will NOT!!
#9657 Oct 15, 2012
Are you retarded? The three branches of government in this country are Executive (the president), Legislative (Both chambers of congress), and Judicial (our high courts).
The Democrats controlled both chambers of congress and the executive office between 2008-2010. What good was accomplished?
#9658 Oct 15, 2012
LOL. Yet you are not worried about Obama thwarting our laws and bypassing Congress to make his own rules/laws. Amazing how "tolerant" liberals are when their own party breaks laws/promises. You are too 'transparent' although most democrats like to say they are but they are not. As we've seen with Obama and Pelosi and Reid. The WORST administration yet for not keeping its promises to be transparent. Instead, they became the worlds biggest liars! The gigs up!!
Cool Hand Clem
“One day at a time”
Since: Oct 12
#9659 Oct 15, 2012
#9660 Oct 15, 2012
No I'm not retarded just did not explain what I meant correctly. You are correct in your description. What I was meaning was it takes both the Senate and the House to pass a bill or law or any legislation before the President can sign it and make it final the President can approve it or veto it. What ever party that has control of all three steps can basically do or UNDO anything they want.
#9661 Oct 15, 2012
There is none so blind as those who will not see and none so ignorant as those that will not learn.
Romney is famous for lying and his flip flops and his etch-a-sketch program. You need to either get back on your meds or get on new ones. You are the kettle calling the pot black but then I think that right there is what the real problem is with some of you ardent Romney supporters. We have a black President and you just can't deal with it.
#9662 Oct 15, 2012
WE need to get rid of all republicans.They are out dated,outsource them ."PLEASE"
#9663 Oct 15, 2012
ROMNEY has CHICKEN eyes.
#9664 Oct 15, 2012
Running for President
The very first flip-flop that Obama committed since running for President is actually running for the office in 2008. Obama said in 2004 that he would not run for President in the next election. Based on what has happened in the last 3 years, this is one promise that most Americans would likely prefer he had kept.
Taxes & Spending
Adding Debt & Raising the Debt Ceiling
As a Senator, Obama opposed raising the debt ceiling, and said adding 4 trillion in was unpatriotic. As President, he insisted the debt ceiling be raised and has added substantially more than 4 trillion to the debt.
Bush Tax Cuts
In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would repeal the Bush tax cuts for the rich. In 2010, he extended those cuts.
Capital Gains Taxes
In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would raise taxes on capital gains and dividends for higher-income taxpayers. He has not done so.
In 2008, Obama pledged that,no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes. My opponent cant make that pledge. However, he has raised taxes on tanning, cigarettes, and those who do not purchase health insurance (regardless of income).
#9665 Oct 15, 2012
Senior Income Tax
In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. He has not done so.
Shortlyafter entering office, Obama signed PAYGO legislation which demanded that all expenditures be paid for unless they are part of an emergency. Democrats in Congress started using the loophole to bypass the legislation almost immediately. Obama touted that a previous extension of unemployment benefits was fully paid for, but later blasted Republicans for not continuing to extend those benefits without paying for them.
In 2008, Obama derided spending freezes as using a hatchet where you need a scalpel and unfair burden-sharing. He said that, although its proposed periodically, a spending freeze doesnt happen. In 2010, Obama announced support for a three-year federal spending freeze on discretionary spending not related to national security.
In 2008, Obamas campaign said that, as President, he would reduce earmarks to less than $7.8 billion a year, the level they were at before 1994″. Earmarks for fiscal year 2010 were more than $15 billion.
Competitive Bidding on Earmarks
In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would ensure that federal contracts over $25,000 are competitively bid. He has not done so.
Tax Credits for Child Care
In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would increase the tax credits for child care and dependent care, and make such credits refundable. He has not done so.
#9666 Oct 15, 2012
Killing NASA Program
In August 2008, Senator Obama announced, as The Washington Post noted,a detailed comprehensive space plan that includes $2 billion in new funding to reinvigorate NASA.
But, as The Washington Post reported in March 2010, President Obama later shattered the dreams of the NASA community with a decision to kill NASAs Constellation program, crafted during the Bush administration with an ambitious goal of putting astronauts back on the moon by 2020.
Obama promised to end the war in Iraq and bring the all the troops home in 2009. He later changed his tune to say the withdrawal depends on conditions on the grounds and troops remained in Iraq past 2009.
Obama originally opposed the Iraq surge and claimed that extra troops would not do anything to quell sectarian violence. However, after the surge was clearly successful, Obama suggested that everyone knew the surge would decrease violence in Iraq.
Military Action without Congressional Approval
President Obama has shown a striking lack of consistency with regard to the question of Congressional authorisation and the use of force. In a 2007 interview with The Boston Globe, then Senator Obama declared:
The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action.
However, as President in March 2011, Barack Obama authorized military action against the Libyan regime without consulting Congress, a decision which drew heavy fire on Capitol Hill.
Dropping Missile Defenses in Poland to appease Russia
In his Prague speech in April 2009, President Obama pledged to move forward with the Bush-era plans for Third Site missile defences in Poland and the Czech Republic
Just six months later however, the Obama administration surrendered to Russian demands, and dramatically dropped plans for Third Site.
There has been speculation that Obamas recent Hot-Mic comments to Russias president about flexibility after the election signal further concessions in this area.
#9667 Oct 15, 2012
While giving a speech in front of the Pro-Israel group AIPAC in 2008, Obama proclaimed that Jerusalem must remain the undivided capital of Israel. However, a few days later his advisers were clarifying that he no longer believes that and the division of Jerusalem is actually an issue to be addressed in negotiations.
Obama repeated the same strategy in 2012 when he promised to have Israels back on Iran in his 2012 AIPAC speech and backtracked a few days later.
Letting Sudan off the hook for the Darfur genocide
In 2004, Senator Obama was a prominent supporter of a humanitarian intervention to halt state-sponsored mass killing in Darfur, declaring in a speech that we cannot, in good conscience, stand by and let the genocide continue. He advocated tough UN sanctions against the brutal regime of Omar Hassan al-Bashir, which should freeze the assets of the Sudanese government, its leaders and business affiliates; outlaw arms sales and transfers to Sudan; and prohibit the purchase of Chinese oil.
However, as president, Obama dramatically changed his tune, extending the hand of friendship to Bashir, despite the fact the Sudanese government and its proxy Janjaweed Arab militias had butchered hundreds of thousands of people.
Abandoning Mubarak in Egypt after calling him a stalwart ally
Big picture foreign policy strategy has not been a forté of this administration, as demonstrated by its inconsistent policy on Egypt and the Middle East. In an interview with the BBCs Justin Webb in June 2009, when asked if he viewed President Mubarak as an authoritarian ruler, President Obama declared:
No, I tend not to use labels for folks. I havent met him; Ive spoken to him on the phone. He has been a stalwart ally, in many respects, to the United States. He has sustained peace with Israel, which is a very difficult thing to do in that region, but he has never resorted to unnecessary demagoguing of the issue and has tried to maintain that relationship. So I think he has been a force for stability and good in the region.
20 months later, the White House emphatically called for Mubarak to go.
Obama opposed the embargo in 2004, but later supported it when speaking in front of a Cuban audience during his run for president. It is still in place today.
Recognizing Armenian Genocide
In 2008, Obama said he would recognize the Armenian Genocide once he is president. He has not done so.
Meeting with Iran Without Preconditions
Obama tried to distance himself from the position that he would meet with Iran without preconditions during the 2008 campaign by claiming there would be preparations, before returning to his original position.
Obama has never had a consistent position on Iran, but one particular shift over a two day period in 2008 is the greatest example of Obamas waffling on the issue. On one day Obama suggested that Iran does not pose a serious threat to us, but the very next day he was describing Iran as a grave threat.
Designating Revolutionary Guard as a Terrorist Group
In September 2007, Obama voted against the Kyl-Lieberman bill which would designate the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organization. Obama attacked Hillary Clinton for voting for the bill, but later claimed that he supported labeling the Iran Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist organization. Obama explained his vote against the bill using a variety of different reasons at different times.
#9668 Oct 15, 2012
During the 2008 campaign Obama was very critical of NAFTA, but later referred to his own rhetoric as overheated and amplified.
Meeting with Chavez
While running for office, Obama stated that he would meet with Hugo Chavez and discuss his support for FARC on one day and then said governments supporting FARC should be isolated the next.
Annual State of the World Address
In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would give an annual State of the World address to the American people in which I lay out our national security policy. He has never given any such address.
Promised to Improve Americas Image
A key foreign policy theme of the Obama presidential election campaign was the notion that President Bush had damaged Americas image on the world stage, with his supposedly cowboy policies. In the words of a campaign document,Barack Obama and Joe Biden will restore Americas standing in the world by providing a new American leadership to meet the challenges of a new century.
As President, however, Obama has done exactly the opposite, insulting key allies such as Great Britain, Israel and Poland, projecting weak leadership, and undermining the standing of the United States as the worlds only superpower. As Ive noted before:
No American president in modern times has invested less effort in maintaining US alliances than Barack Obama. Whether it is siding with Marxists in Honduras against pro-American forces, condemning Israel, throwing the Poles and Czechs under the bus, or trashing the Anglo-American Special Relationship, the Obama administration has gone out of its way to kick its allies in the teeth while kowtowing to Americas enemies. For a president who boasted in his election campaign of restoring Americas standing in the world, Obama has done a spectacularly bad job of preserving friendships with Washingtons closest friends.
Obama, along with many other leading Democrats, blamed George W. Bush for high gas prices when he was President. Yet now that prices have reached near record highs under his administration, Obama is claiming that he has no control of those prices. Furthermore, Obama has previously said he supports a gradual shift to higher gas prices, but now laughs off the claim that he is rooting for higher prices to reduce dependency.
Cap and Trade
In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would set a hard cap on all carbon emissions at a level that scientists say is necessary to curb global warming an 80% reduction by 2050″. No cap and trade legislation has been passed.
#9669 Oct 15, 2012
Selling Oil from Strategic Reserve
In July 2007, Obama rejected selling oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which he said should be reserved for a genuine emergency. A month later, Obama said,We should sell 70 million barrels of oil from our Strategic Petroleum Reserve for less expensive crude, which in the past has lowered gas prices within two weeks, even though gas prices were higher in July 2007 than in August 2007.
Obama touted the possibility of a pipeline during his 2008 campaign, but rejected rapid approval of the Keystone XL pipeline this year.
Obama told a group of Democratic Governors in June of 2008 that he was open to expanding nuclear power after having previously opposed it.
Immigration & Healthcare
In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would introduce comprehensive immigration reform legislation in his first year. He did not. He has now made the same promise for the first year of his second term.
Health Care Mandate
Obama was against the individual mandate before it became a central part of his signature legislation.
Single Payer Health Care
In 2003, as an Illinois state senator, Obama said,I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program. In 2009, Obama said,I have not said that I was a single-payer supporter.
Keeping Your Insurance
Leading up to the passage of Obamacare, Obama promised Americans that they would be able to keep their current insurance plan if they like it. Further analysis by the CBO has revealed that Obamacare would cause many seniors to have their Medicare Advantage coverage cut in half and millions to be dropped from their employer-provided insurance.
Cost of Obamacare
Obama promised that he would not sign [a healthcare bill] if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future, period. Yet, a new analysis determines that his bill will add quite a bit to future deficits.
Insuring All Americans
Obama outlined three goals for his health care legislation. Lowering the cost curve and insuring all Americans were two of the three. It has now been determined that Obamacare will add to the deficit and 25 million Americans will remain uninsured.
In 2010, Obama signed into law health care reform that was passed via reconciliation, contrary to his 2007 insistence that health care reform should not be passed by a bare 50 plus one majority, and his 2005 rejection of the nuclear option in the Senate.
#9670 Oct 15, 2012
Televising Healthcare Negotiations
In 2008, Obama said, when it came to crafting health care reform,well have the negotiations televised on C-SPAN. Many crucial negotiations pertaining to health care reform were not televised.
Taxing Health Benefits
In 2008, Obama criticized his presidential opponent, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), saying,for the first time in American history, he wants to tax your health benefits. In 2010, Obama signed into law health care reform legislation that puts a 40% tax on some health insurance policies.
Importing Cheaper Drugs
In 2008, Obama said that, as President, his health care reform would allow Americans to import cheaper prescription drugs. The health care reform he signed into law does not allow this.
Cracking Down on Employers of Illegal Immigrants
Obama opposed cracking down on employers of illegal immigrants before running for President, but supported it during his run.
In 2008, Obamas campaign said that, as president, he would close the detention facility at Guantanamo. And, in January 2009, Obama signed an executive order calling for the Guantanamo Bay facility to be closed. It remains open.
Military tribunals for terror suspects
In the 2008 campaign, Obama said that, as president, he would end the use of military commissions with respect to terrorism suspects and detainees. However, they are still in use.
Rendition of Terror Suspects
In a 2007 Foreign Affairs article, Senator Obama gave a strong indication that he would end the Bush administration practice of rendition of terror suspects:
To build a better, freer world, we must first behave in ways that reflect the decency and aspirations of the American people This means ending the practices of shipping away prisoners in the dead of night to be tortured in far-off countries, of detaining thousands without charge or trial, of maintaining a network of secret prisons to jail people beyond the reach of the law.
But, as The New York Times reported in August 2009, the Obama administrations Interrogation and Transfer Task Force announced that it would retain renditions, but with what The Times referred to as more oversight.
Photos of Detainee Abuse
In April 2009, the Obama administration said it planned to release photos depicting abuse of detainees being held by the U.S. overseas. The administration then reversed its decision, and said it would resist court rulings demanding the release of such photos.
Obama said he would repeal the Patriot Act in a 2003 questionnaire, but later voted to renew it in the Senate.
In 2007, Obama pleased liberal advocates by promising to filibuster any bill that gave amnesty to telecommunication companies that were assisting authorities with wiretapping activities. Obama voted for a bill that did just that in July of 2008.
Killing Osama Bin Laden
Obama highlighted the importance of killing Osama Bin Laden while running for president and after OBL was killed in Pakistan, but made the claim that it was no longer essential when he first got into office. Of course took all the credit when he was killed.
#9671 Oct 15, 2012
Obama promised to seek public financing for his presidential campaign in 2008, but ended up rejecting public financing.
In May 2008, Obama said he would meet McCain anywhere, anytime to have a debate about our respective policies in Iraq, Iran, the Middle East or around the world. But he rejected town hall debates proposed by the McCain campaign.
Voting Along Party Lines
In 2010, Obama decried Senate candidate Scott Browns (R-MA) record of voting with Republicans 96% of the time, saying it showed Brown was not independent. When he himself was in the Senate, Obama voted with Democrats 96% of the time.
In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would raise the minimum wage to $9.50 an hour, up from the current $7.25 an hour. It has not been raised.
After the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) and several others (six people were killed), Obama said,at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who happen to think differently than we do its important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that were talking with each other in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds. Yet Obama has frequently described Republicans as Social Darwinists. He has said that the difference between Democrats and Republicans is that Democrats have a sense of neighborliness and a sense of community, and we are willing to look out for one another and help people who are vulnerable and help people who are down on their luck.
In his book,The Audacity of Hope, Obama lamented the description of abortion opponents asright-wing ideologues who want to take away a womans right to choose. Obama said thestandard boilerplate rhetoric had been written not by himself but by someone on his U.S. Senate campaign staff, and he had the offending words removed from his website. In recent months, however, Obama has described Republican opponents of abortion as seeking to turn back the clock,prevent millions of women from getting basic health care that they desperately need, and stirring up fights over a womans right to make her own health care choices.
Despite advocating civility and civil debate, Obama has appointed Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) to chair the DNC, even though she has frequently resorted to name-calling (e.g., here, here,here, here, and here). Rather than chastising her for her incivility, Obama has praised her.
After James Jimmy Hoffa, Jr., launched this invective at the Tea Party President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Lets take these son of a bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong during an event at which Obama was about to speak, the Obama administration refused to denounce Hoffas offensive (and violent) rhetoric, saying they would not act as the speech police. Days later, Obamas presidential campaign launched AttackWatch.com , a website dedicated to policing the speech of Republicans and denouncing them when they say unfair things about Obama.
#9672 Oct 15, 2012
In 2008, Obama said,I will never question the patriotism of others in this campaign. And I will not stand idly by when I hear others question mine.[...] Patriotism can never be defined as loyalty to any particular leader, or government, or policy. However, in that same year, he called the Bush administrations decision to raise the debt ceiling unpatriotic.[Obama] has accused Republicans of putting party before country, and he has stood idly by as others in his party e.g., Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-CA) have said Republicans are not patriotic.
In 2008, Obama derided presidential commissions as Washington-speak for well get back to you later. In 2010, he appointed the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform to look for solutions to the debt crisis. The commission did not have the votes to submit their plan to Congress, and Obama has not championed their proposals.
Furthermore, in 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would create a national commission to look at whether programs such as Social Security Disability Insurance, Supplementary Security Income, Medicare and Medicaid create an incentive for people to not work. He has yet to do so.
Public Posting of Bills Before Passage
In 2008, Obamas campaign said that, as president, he would not sign any nonemergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House Web site for five days. He has since signed non-emergency bills without the five-day public review period.
White House Fleet
In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would convert the White House fleet of cars to plug-in hybrid and electric vehicles. He has not done so.
Obamas position on this issue is constantly changing. President Obama openly opposed gay marriage during the 2008 election. Obama also supported states deciding the issue at that point. However, later on Obama opposed Californias ban on gay marriage and has said his views on the issue are evolving.
Obama opposed use and coordination of Super PACs following the Citizens United decisions, but recently changed course and signaled approval of Super PACs that are supporting his re-election effort
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