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Since: Sep 13

Ravenswood

#29465 Nov 4, 2013
leighla wrote:
Here is one reason military families are on welfare.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/09/05...
http://www.politicususa.com/2012/09/27/senate...

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/09/20...

http://touch.nextgov.com/nextgov/ #!/entry/mystery-senate-republ ican-blocks-costofliving-incre ase-for-disabled-vets,507308d1 94f4be7169257d7e

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/10/10/...
George

United States

#29466 Nov 4, 2013
bacon hater wrote:
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Dude, are you trying to claim that Saddam's military (built and paid for by the US) invaded Kuwait OVER TWO DECADES AGO for reasons OTHER THAN OIL? Are you claiming that we ousted him from Kuwait for reasons OTHER THAN OIL? Are you trying to say that Saddam was a threat to Kuwait in 2003? Are you claiming that we started that illegal war because he posed a threat to Kuwait, or any nation on the planet for that matter? That war had no military or strategic purpose. The oil did not pay for the war (it actually caused prices to skyrocket, where they remain). There was no plan for exit. No goal. Nothing. It was for Cheney's business (Halliburton) and Bush's (oil). Even the goddamn GOP admits this shit. That's why Bush lives in exile and republicans would rather have Sarah Palin stumping on their campaigns than an admitted war criminal.
Come on, George. Get real.
I will spell things out for you since you dont even know the facts. Saddam invaded Kuwait starting a war. We went to war with Saddam over his invasion of Kuwait. Instead of crushing Saddam when he had the chance and the right, daddy Bush did the "civilized" thing and gave him one more chance after his surrender. Saddam surrendered and agreed to term for our ceasing military action against him. After years of increasing violations of his agreed upon terms of surrender, we used force and removed him from power, ensuring those terms. Thats the gfacts jack. You cant invade a country, start a war, surrender with agreed upon term and then violate those terms. The was was never over under the terms of surrender were completed, as with ANY war. Duh.
George

United States

#29467 Nov 4, 2013
And if you want to say it was over oil because a brutal power hungry dictator invaded Kuwait over oil, yeah it was over oil. Saddam wanted to steal more oil, we stopped him. He surrendered and then didnt follow through on the agreed upon conditions of his surrender or we would have toppled him initially. We gave him a second chance and you fault us for it. Saddam was evil and needed to be overthrown. Good riddance.

“Comfort the afflicted”

Since: May 13

Afflict the comfortable

#29468 Nov 4, 2013
Melissa Harris The 2nd wrote:
We can get that for less than minimum wage.
That’s right. Let’s give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan– that equals 6 1/2 hours).
Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day…maybe 30? So that’s $19.50 x 30 =$585.00 a day.
I get pissed when people talk about how teachers are over paid. Two of my children are educators and ARE not overpaid.
Teacher pay is a joke. Name one professional career that requires a specialized degree where starting pay is 12 percent above poverty. There is no other group of professionals in this country that are more underpaid and underappreciated than teachers. They are responsible for the future of civilization. They must be teachers, investigators, counselors, policemen, nurses, negotiators, behavioral specialists, coaches, organizers, representatives, role models, parents and friends. All before 9 am today.

Having said that, our educational system has problems. We spend more to educate a single student here than in any other country in the world, but that students' performance falls about 50th on the list. That's a problem. We must change the way we educate kids. We expect students with poor parents who don't provide resources and guidance to compete with students who have every advantage. That doesn't work and the statistics prove it. We need better teachers, and you get them by paying them a professional salary. The GOP solution is the same - cut funding when there's problems. Thankfully, they have no power whatsoever.

“Comfort the afflicted”

Since: May 13

Afflict the comfortable

#29469 Nov 4, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>I will spell things out for you since you dont even know the facts. Saddam invaded Kuwait starting a war. We went to war with Saddam over his invasion of Kuwait. Instead of crushing Saddam when he had the chance and the right, daddy Bush did the "civilized" thing and gave him one more chance after his surrender. Saddam surrendered and agreed to term for our ceasing military action against him. After years of increasing violations of his agreed upon terms of surrender, we used force and removed him from power, ensuring those terms. Thats the gfacts jack. You cant invade a country, start a war, surrender with agreed upon term and then violate those terms. The was was never over under the terms of surrender were completed, as with ANY war. Duh.
So we invaded Iraq because he violated the terms of his surrender 22 years ago? Wow. Too bad George Bush didn't even use that lame-ass bullshit excuse. He tried the fake WMD route to scare people. Maybe he figured the "violations" excuse wouldn't fly. Not scary enough. Also, daddy Bush didn't "give Saddam a second chance." His advisors and intel was clear - you invade, we'll get our asses kicked over a decade and it'll cost us a few trillion dollars. Bush said, "Ok. We'll be leaving now."

George, you're hilarious.

Since: Sep 13

Ravenswood

#29470 Nov 4, 2013
leighla wrote:
How much a big pay raise has teachers gotten in the last five years? If you have two educators then they must tell you how awful the school lunches are for the kids. You know what there are some wonderful teachers out there and then we have teachers who are not worth the money they get paid.
You tell SHOW me the big pay raises teachers have gotten in the past 5 years. And teachers have nothing to do with school lunches. The lunches are free, if you don't want your children more healthy, pack them a lunch.
In any field you have good and bad. We have some wonderful, caring teachers that spend their OWN money for these kids. They love their children and want the best. And everyone forgets about the time they spend on lesson plans, parent conferences and phone calls. And extra curricular activities.
I've seen my daughter take food, pencils, paper that she paid for because someone was too poor. Ask any good teacher how much money they spend on their kids.
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Since: Sep 13

Ravenswood

#29472 Nov 4, 2013
And dam Michele Obama for working to get our kids health. WV is the fattest state in the union. Our children are over weight and out of shape. They still believe food means love. They stick them in front of a tv or video game and bitch if they have home work.

Attitudes have to change or we will need more than ACA.
leighla

Salem, WV

#29473 Nov 4, 2013
bacon hater wrote:
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Teacher pay is a joke. Name one professional career that requires a specialized degree where starting pay is 12 percent above poverty. There is no other group of professionals in this country that are more underpaid and underappreciated than teachers. They are responsible for the future of civilization. They must be teachers, investigators, counselors, policemen, nurses, negotiators, behavioral specialists, coaches, organizers, representatives, role models, parents and friends. All before 9 am today.
Having said that, our educational system has problems. We spend more to educate a single student here than in any other country in the world, but that students' performance falls about 50th on the list. That's a problem. We must change the way we educate kids. We expect students with poor parents who don't provide resources and guidance to compete with students who have every advantage. That doesn't work and the statistics prove it. We need better teachers, and you get them by paying them a professional salary. The GOP solution is the same - cut funding when there's problems. Thankfully, they have no power whatsoever.
Coming from someone who has never had to send there child to school. You do not know anything about it so stop pretending. When you have several kids in the school system please come back and let mke know how it is working out for you.

True about teachers not getting enough pay. False that democrats or republicans have ever really tried to change anything. George Bush no child left behind was a step in the right direction.
George

United States

#29474 Nov 4, 2013
bacon hater wrote:
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So we invaded Iraq because he violated the terms of his surrender 22 years ago? Wow. Too bad George Bush didn't even use that lame-ass bullshit excuse. He tried the fake WMD route to scare people. Maybe he figured the "violations" excuse wouldn't fly. Not scary enough. Also, daddy Bush didn't "give Saddam a second chance." His advisors and intel was clear - you invade, we'll get our asses kicked over a decade and it'll cost us a few trillion dollars. Bush said, "Ok. We'll be leaving now."
George, you're hilarious.
It wasnt 22 years, my God will you do a little research so you stopping looking like such an idiot. Once again, it was NOT 22 years earlier. And yes, GHWB gave Saddam a second chance, and idiots use it against him.
leighla

Salem, WV

#29475 Nov 4, 2013
Melissa Harris The 2nd wrote:
And dam Michele Obama for working to get our kids health. WV is the fattest state in the union. Our children are over weight and out of shape. They still believe food means love. They stick them in front of a tv or video game and bitch if they have home work.
Attitudes have to change or we will need more than ACA.
Well we need to get parents off welfare, off drugs, off booze then we can talk about a change. Go to the store and watch all the carts full of junk paid for by food stamps. Makes ya really mad
George

United States

#29476 Nov 4, 2013
bacon hater wrote:
<quoted text>
So we invaded Iraq because he violated the terms of his surrender 22 years ago? Wow. Too bad George Bush didn't even use that lame-ass bullshit excuse. He tried the fake WMD route to scare people. Maybe he figured the "violations" excuse wouldn't fly. Not scary enough. Also, daddy Bush didn't "give Saddam a second chance." His advisors and intel was clear - you invade, we'll get our asses kicked over a decade and it'll cost us a few trillion dollars. Bush said, "Ok. We'll be leaving now."
George, you're hilarious.
Even though it wasnt 22 years the truth is even it it was it wouldnt make a difference. When you start a war and get your ass kicked and surrender, and agree to terms of surrender so we dont topple you from power, then ignore that agreement and violate those terms of surrender, you can expect to get toppled regardless of if it is 1 year or 22 years.
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Since: Sep 13

Ravenswood

#29478 Nov 4, 2013
leighla wrote:
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Coming from someone who has never had to send there child to school. You do not know anything about it so stop pretending. When you have several kids in the school system please come back and let mke know how it is working out for you.
True about teachers not getting enough pay. False that democrats or republicans have ever really tried to change anything. George Bush no child left behind was a step in the right direction.
Oh My God are you stupid? Every educator in the country hated no child left behind! Teaching a child how to pass a test so you will look good. The kid doesn't learn a thing but look at their test scores.

“Comfort the afflicted”

Since: May 13

Afflict the comfortable

#29479 Nov 4, 2013
leighla wrote:
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George Bush no child left behind was a step in the right direction.
WHAT!!!!! You mean a failed program that was fought by every educational organization in the country was a "step in the right direction?" Holy shit. You people absolutely astonish me. For Christ's sake, the entire state of West Virginia REJOICED when it was finally abolished this year.

Since: Sep 13

Ravenswood

#29480 Nov 4, 2013
leighla wrote:
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Well we need to get parents off welfare, off drugs, off booze then we can talk about a change. Go to the store and watch all the carts full of junk paid for by food stamps. Makes ya really mad
I agree with most of that. Food stamps should be regulated so only nutritional food can be bought. Remember years ago people got commodities? Butter, flour, powdered eggs, etc. maybe we should go back to those days and parents can learn to cook again.
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leighla

Salem, WV

#29482 Nov 4, 2013
Are you both just brain dead. I said in the right direction. Did not say it was perfect. What has oboma done NOTHING

“Comfort the afflicted”

Since: May 13

Afflict the comfortable

#29483 Nov 4, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>It wasnt 22 years, my God will you do a little research so you stopping looking like such an idiot. Once again, it was NOT 22 years earlier. And yes, GHWB gave Saddam a second chance, and idiots use it against him.
George, Iraq invaded Kuwait in August of 1990. That's just a hair over 23 years ago.

So tell me, why didn't the war criminal use the "violations" excuse to start the war? The UN certainly didn't back us in it, so don't try your standard - it was legal, it was sanctioned by the UN, etc.- all bullshit.

THE IRAQ WAR HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH NO FLY ZONES OR UN VIOLATIONS. What were these violations anyway? He let the inspectors in (who told US intel he had no WMDs in 1999), had no military to speak of, invaded no one, bombed no one, flew nowhere, cohorted with no terrorists and had no WMDs. What were these violations that warranted an INVASION? Just your opinion - because obviously no international organization backed our decision to invade.
leighla

Salem, WV

#29484 Nov 4, 2013
Melissa Harris The 2nd wrote:
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I agree with most of that. Food stamps should be regulated so only nutritional food can be bought. Remember years ago people got commodities? Butter, flour, powdered eggs, etc. maybe we should go back to those days and parents can learn to cook again.
I think a classes should be given in nutrition. I think school lunches should also be cooked with good food from scratch like they use to have.
fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#29485 Nov 4, 2013
Melissa Harris The 2nd wrote:
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You tell SHOW me the big pay raises teachers have gotten in the past 5 years. And teachers have nothing to do with school lunches. The lunches are free, if you don't want your children more healthy, pack them a lunch.
In any field you have good and bad. We have some wonderful, caring teachers that spend their OWN money for these kids. They love their children and want the best. And everyone forgets about the time they spend on lesson plans, parent conferences and phone calls. And extra curricular activities.
I've seen my daughter take food, pencils, paper that she paid for because someone was too poor. Ask any good teacher how much money they spend on their kids.
teachers are overpaid baby sitters. every attempt to test them to get rid of the worthless ones is cocked blocked their unions. look at you.. your dumber than a box of nails. what grade are you in anyways ?

Since: Sep 13

Ravenswood

#29486 Nov 4, 2013
leighla wrote:
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Well we need to get parents off welfare, off drugs, off booze then we can talk about a change. Go to the store and watch all the carts full of junk paid for by food stamps. Makes ya really mad
I think it's on 3% of food stamp recipients is fraudulent. But that is too much. We need to correct that but not punish the other 97%. Not everyone stays on food stamps that long. It's a hand up for people who are hurting.

“Comfort the afflicted”

Since: May 13

Afflict the comfortable

#29487 Nov 4, 2013
Melissa Harris The 2nd wrote:
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I agree with most of that. Food stamps should be regulated so only nutritional food can be bought. Remember years ago people got commodities? Butter, flour, powdered eggs, etc. maybe we should go back to those days and parents can learn to cook again.
Wrong. Children with poor parents deserve a candy bar or regular diet just like any other kid. You aren't paying for it, and it is not your right to influence their choices.

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