Who do you support for U.S. Senate in West Virginia in 2010?

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Sundog512 wrote:
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"Tried to?" Or did?
Ever hear of Reid Vs. Covert?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reid_v._Covert
Although the Constitution trumps any and all treaties and therefore it could not directly take away people gun rights, it could greatly limit the number of weapons choices we have. It also could seriously hinder the already low ammo supply of American gun owners. I suppose that was the purpose, to limit guns and ammo for everyone in the world, including Americans. I say they can take that treaty and shove it.

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Lets see.....Obamacare. He lied to the American people and said it was not a tax. Arthur has show that interview many pages ago. Then when it was to go before the Suprme court it became a tax so it would pass. Not calling a coup when we all knew it was a coup is lying and side stepping our laws. Fast and furious program that killed boarder agents. IRS scandal under his watch. Bacon hater's favorite, Benghzi. Even if he was innocent, they still lied about it. Getting involved with three local cases and wrong on all three. Bush added 2 trillion to deficet in 8 years while Obama add 7 trillion in 4. Help fuel race anger. Should we continue?
So all of those things are unconstitutional, or are you just lying again? If they are, then republicans are not doing their job of bringing him up on charges. What do you suppose the hold up is?

By the way, still waiting for you to show me where I defended the government employee who has a racist website. Seems to me if you want any of your allegations serious, you'd be willing to back them up.

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The constitution doesn't cover your choice of weapons. It says you have the right to bear arms. That's it.

Therefore, it is not a violation of the constitution.

If Americans have a low ammo supply (although I've had no difficulty buying anything), then maybe manufacturer should make more....unless they are enjoying the profits they are making by jacking up the prices.
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<quoted text>Although the Constitution trumps any and all treaties and therefore it could not directly take away people gun rights, it could greatly limit the number of weapons choices we have. It also could seriously hinder the already low ammo supply of American gun owners. I suppose that was the purpose, to limit guns and ammo for everyone in the world, including Americans. I say they can take that treaty and shove it.
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The constitution doesn't cover your choice of weapons. It says you have the right to bear arms. That's it.
Therefore, it is not a violation of the constitution.
If Americans have a low ammo supply (although I've had no difficulty buying anything), then maybe manufacturer should make more....unless they are enjoying the profits they are making by jacking up the prices.
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I didnt say the treaty was a Constitutional violation now did I? I just pointed out it is a sucky treaty meant to sidestep the Constitution and limit legal American gun owners choices to exercise their 2nd amendment right.

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It doesn't side-step the constitution at all. The constitution doesn't cover what kind of weapons you can own. It simply says you can own a weapon. The fact that you claim this treaty can limit he type of gun you can own is irrelevant to any discussion about the constitution.
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<quoted text>I didnt say the treaty was a Constitutional violation now did I? I just pointed out it is a sucky treaty meant to sidestep the Constitution and limit legal American gun owners choices to exercise their 2nd amendment right.

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It doesn't interfere with the second amendment at all because the second amendment does not mention your choice of gun. It simply says you have the right to own a gun.

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Aug 23, 2013
 
As passed by the Congress and preserved in the National Archives:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, then-Secretary of State:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The right of the people to keep and bear arms is not infringed by this treaty. They can still keep and bear arms. There is no "side-stepping."

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A thought worth pondering: Why is it that the left is always quick to point out that Obamacare is the law and republicans need to get over it but the left is constantly complaining about the 2nd Amendment which has been the law for over two hundred years?

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Maybe for the same reason that the right is always quick to complain about the abortion laws (right to choose) which are also the law of the land.
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A thought worth pondering: Why is it that the left is always quick to point out that Obamacare is the law and republicans need to get over it but the left is constantly complaining about the 2nd Amendment which has been the law for over two hundred years?

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Maybe for the same reason that the right is always quick to complain about the abortion laws (right to choose) which are also the law of the land.
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The point being that both sides have the right to complain about laws that don't like.

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The constitution doesn't cover your choice of weapons. It says you have the right to bear arms. That's it.
Therefore, it is not a violation of the constitution.
If Americans have low ammo supply (although I've had no difficulty buying anything), then maybe manufacturer should make more....unless they are enjoying the profits they are making by jacking up the prices.
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You are really just grasping at straws. Where does it say for the government to be that much into my business to tell me what kind and how many guns I choose to own. Where does it say the government should tell me what kind of food I should eat. Where does it tell me the government needs to micro manage every little detail of my life. If you cannot see the rights being ripped away then I seriously do not know what to tell you. Please don't try to make more feeble excuses to explain it all away.

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The point being that both sides have the right to complain about laws that don't like.
You are exactly right. That is what America is suppose to be about. Not calling someone stupid just because they have a different opinion .

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The point being that both sides have the right to complain about laws that don't like.
And I am not arguing that at all.

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Maybe for the same reason that the right is always quick to complain about the abortion laws (right to choose) which are also the law of the land.
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I agree with the right to choose. I also know a lot of other people do not agree with it. Not all people are going to have the same views that is just life.
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Sundog.....I already explained a couple of pages ago that you did not defend him, but you and bacon hater seem to not care and will not say anything until the investigation. But you two were quick to comment before the Zimmerman trial was over
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It doesn't side-step the constitution at all. The constitution doesn't cover what kind of weapons you can own. It simply says you can own a weapon. The fact that you claim this treaty can limit he type of gun you can own is irrelevant to any discussion about the constitution.
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You are right, it doesnt say certain weapons should be excluded in the right to bare arms. No weapons were banned. Ordinary people owned cannons and the best weapons possible, equal to the military. There were no restrictions. Only now do we have politicians who think they are smarter than the founding fathers and want to make their own rules. I will trust the founders, not these morons we have in office now.

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<quoted text>It's not even remotely the same thing.

1.) The supreme court says that abortion is legal. Comparing it to suicide is pointless.

2.) Not being able to smoke a Cuban cigar has nothing to do with your body. It has everything to do with importing products made in Cuba.
No it is assisted suicide by proxy. Nobody asked the baby what it wanted. The Supreme Court was filled at that time full of liberal idiots.

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You are really just grasping at straws. Where does it say for the government to be that much into my business to tell me what kind and how many guns I choose to own.
The government is not doing either of those things. Try again, sport. Facts are not grasping at straws.
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<quoted text>Where does it say the government should tell me what kind of food I should eat.
What is the law regulating what food you eat, other than the FDA which keeps people from putting sawdust in your food. China doesn't have an FDA, maybe you should move there.
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<quoted text> Where does it tell me the government needs to micro manage every little detail of my life.
Can you ever be specific? You've been on here for days making these nonsensical general claims and refuse to ever be specific.
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<quoted text>If you cannot see the rights being ripped away then I seriously do not know what to tell you. Please don't try to make more feeble excuses to explain it all away.
I don't need excuses, feeble or otherwise. I don't consider myself a victim of anything. Sorry to hear that you do. How does being weak and powerless feel?
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Sundog.......not everything I stated was about breaking the law and constitution. It showed just a few of Obama's lies and failure of being a leader. But I did not think I had to explain that to such an eductated man like you think you are.

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<quoted text>Zimmerman didn't jump out of the bushes. He responded to a man following him around. That's okay though, the same will happen in reverse some time and you people will scream like stuck pigs and I'll be here to point it out.
I guess the guy that was killed this week by three street thugs was ok because they were bored and didn't know what it was like. Go ahead and take up for every low life thug, I don't care. It just shows your idiocy, moron.

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