Unions Are Hyped Up Myths And Are Dec...
lol

Hansford, WV

#24 Dec 12, 2012
jerk wrote:
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Nice to know there are people like you...not.
Yes, how dare he expect that workers show up for the job they are paid to do, and advocate replacing them if they refuse to do it.

Unions are on par with worker's comp scammers to me.
Dave

Garber, OK

#25 Dec 12, 2012
Senior Operating Officer wrote:
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Once the last unions fall (and they will), the products made here in America will be produced for far less than they are now. Will all the savings be passed onto consumers? No, not all of it, but some will thereby stimulating the economy and keeping the profits here in America.
Thats the key word Profits, The companies will pay the wages of Mexico and Bangledesh, and the stockholders and upper management will pocket Billions of dollars. Your title says it all.
Vince

Saint Albans, WV

#26 Dec 12, 2012
Dave wrote:
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Thats the key word Profits, The companies will pay the wages of Mexico and Bangledesh, and the stockholders and upper management will pocket Billions of dollars. Your title says it all.
Profit is not a dirty word Dave. Yes a few of the higher ups would enhance their wealth but for the common worker they would be paid what their job should pay. No one would be put on wages like the countries you mentioned. Changes are coming for labor unions, they are well overdue.
Good news

Clarksburg, WV

#27 Dec 12, 2012
The wage difference is overr $10 an hour between two similar companies up here. Union wins, and far better insurance.
Guess where more people get fired? Surprise, the union shop.
Guess where they have A break code to take a leak. Union
Guess where the company that profited 5 bill ladt year decided all raises are in hold? Non-union
All raises, except barginning union employees units. Ours go on as scheduled.
Just my experience
fat man in the party van

United States

#28 Dec 12, 2012
DieselWV wrote:
Is there much difference in take home pay between union members that pay dues and slightly lower wages? I'd be interested to see the analysis on that.
I make twice as much as a union construction worker than I did non union
Dave

Garber, OK

#29 Dec 12, 2012
Well Vince, So who is going to determine what their job should pay? Don't say the going rate, because thats what I am saying ,the going rate will drop substanially

Lets use Walmart as an example, A multiple Billion dollar Corp. that pays low wages while the Ceo and the Waltons rake in billions. Oh and the money for the products they sell, goes to China. Do you realize Walmart is China's biggest customer?

Another thing, Nowhere did I say Profits was a bad thing. But a decent wage is not a bad thing either.
Good news

Clarksburg, WV

#30 Dec 12, 2012
Union means management must have Just Cause.
Not just because..
You bozo's that think you're Donald Trump are gonna find out what your company will do for you one day. Most of the country is reaping the benefits unions fought for years ago, but are quickly giving back. Work weeks increasing, poor training, insurance withering away. Union people ideally want a life. That means a good wage for a good job. Admittedly, some unions are getting involved in politics deeper than necessary, but the general idea is to give the worker a voice. Some people have worked for fair employers and are very happy. Others of us have had quite a different experience at times.
wasting your time

Springfield, NJ

#31 Dec 12, 2012
Good news wrote:
Union means management must have Just Cause.
Not just because..
You bozo's that think you're Donald Trump are gonna find out what your company will do for you one day. Most of the country is reaping the benefits unions fought for years ago, but are quickly giving back. Work weeks increasing, poor training, insurance withering away. Union people ideally want a life. That means a good wage for a good job. Admittedly, some unions are getting involved in politics deeper than necessary, but the general idea is to give the worker a voice. Some people have worked for fair employers and are very happy. Others of us have had quite a different experience at times.
These teabaggers won't listen to reason. They just believe what they're fed. Unions fought to give us the five day work week, vacations, child labor laws, etc........ Now we're turning into China. Good luck with that you uneducated buffoons.
stay at home mom

New York, NY

#32 Dec 12, 2012
Vince wrote:
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Profit is not a dirty word Dave. Yes a few of the higher ups would enhance their wealth but for the common worker they would be paid what their job should pay. No one would be put on wages like the countries you mentioned. Changes are coming for labor unions, they are well overdue.
Well put.
baldy

Springfield, NJ

#33 Dec 12, 2012
Want it done right THE FIRST TIME? Go UNION.
local40

Ardsley, NY

#34 Dec 12, 2012
Senior Operating Officer wrote:
Union dues are outrageous. You would be floored if you really knew how much the unions take from their members.
Look at it like this:
If you work a standard 40 hour week, how would you like working your first 5 hours for free? Very similar to what unions force (yes force) their member to pay.
Does that sound like a deal? If so, I have some air I would like to sell you.
So you are saying that Union members are paying 12.5% of their pay to Union dues??
You are way off base and obviously not a Union member.
Steelworkers at Special Metals pay 1.3% of their pay to Union dues!
And the total dues can never amount to more than 2.5 times their average hourly pay!
No matter how many hours the Company forces them to work!
It is the best investment that you could make for so little money!
They have no problem forcing people to work 16 hours a day for 12 days in a row and would force indefinitely if THE UNION didn't require them to have at least 2 days off after working 12 straight!
People like you who spout ignorance would like to have the benefits and rights that are earned by being Union.
But you only care about yourself and would not being willing to stand up for the right to be treated as a human being.
If you really worked for a living, you would understand why the Unions are necessary!
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Not Union Anymore

Huntington, WV

#36 Dec 13, 2012
baldy wrote:
Want it done right THE FIRST TIME? Go UNION.
I am no longer in the union. You must be joking by making that statement. You are bound to know that many times there is a lot of wasted time and lollygagging when work is supposed to be going on. Thank you for the laugh though lol.
hillbilly

United States

#37 Dec 13, 2012
Senior Operating Officer wrote:
Congratulations to Michigan. My fellow boardmembers and I are quite pleased with the changes taking place in this country.
We are no longer going to be bullied by Unions. Hardworking, red blooded True Americans are tired of the Union games.
The Union does not protect your retirement, your job, your stablility, nothing...They have pulled a big con on their members. Thank goodness for educated people that are finally waking up to the Union Scam.
ALL RENT AND LIVING COST IS SET BY UNION PAY .IF YOU ARE NOT IN UNION ,YOU ANT GOING TOO MAKE IT IN UNION AREA.NOW that we have OBAMA CARE WE CAN WORK FOR LOWER PAY AND MAKE A LIVING.MEDS HAVE BEEN DOWN FALL FOR POOR FOLKS.ONE DOCTOR BILL AND YOU END UP IN GOVERNMENT HOUSING WITH THE DRUG DEALERS TAKES IT ALL.
hillbilly

United States

#38 Dec 13, 2012
I know we need unions in coal mines.
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Not A Coalminer

Sweden

#40 Dec 13, 2012
hillbilly wrote:
I know we need unions in coal mines.
Hi.

Your country need to stop coal mining and get into the future energy sources.

Coal Mining is a very outdated industry and should be abolished. Your country has hundreds of years worth of natural gas. Why arent your leaders tapping this source of energy?
corporate pirate

Waterford, MI

#41 Dec 13, 2012
Senior Operating Officer wrote:
Really what this country needs is more companies to perform “lock-outs”.
Shortly before a unions contract expires, the company trains non-union workers to do a union workers job. One the unions current contract expires, rather than let workers strike, companies stop letting them come to work. But business often continues with non-unionized replacement workers.
By law, management can’t permanently replace the workers it has locked out. But when a union contract expires, your boss can demand huge concessions and then lock you out without pay until you accept them.
Great points. Unfortunately, there are some people that cannot grasp the big picture.
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fat man in the party van

United States

#43 Dec 13, 2012
If you arnt in a union or own a unionized company then why are you commenting on this subject? It doesn't affect you. If your jealous of my union wages bring yours up....don't try to lower my wage
lol

Hansford, WV

#44 Dec 13, 2012
Not A Coalminer wrote:
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Hi.
Your country need to stop coal mining and get into the future energy sources.
Coal Mining is a very outdated industry and should be abolished. Your country has hundreds of years worth of natural gas. Why arent your leaders tapping this source of energy?
We are. We mine coal, too. Either way, we'll do whatever the f$%k we want regardless of what some lib using a proxy posing as a Swede thinks.
lol

Hansford, WV

#45 Dec 13, 2012
fat man in the party van wrote:
If you arnt in a union or own a unionized company then why are you commenting on this subject? It doesn't affect you. If your jealous of my union wages bring yours up....don't try to lower my wage
Because unions create shitty, overpriced products creating an economic situation that causes America to have a greater dependence on foreign-made products than should be necessary.

That, and unions are full of hateful, rage-driven douchebags with a sense of entitlement that makes even the richest CEO smirk.
Oleksandr

Sweden

#46 Dec 13, 2012
lol wrote:
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Because unions create shitty, overpriced products creating an economic situation that causes America to have a greater dependence on foreign-made products than should be necessary.
That, and unions are full of hateful, rage-driven douchebags with a sense of entitlement that makes even the richest CEO smirk.
Excellent response. Well done.

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