Unions Are Hyped Up Myths And Are Dec...

Unions Are Hyped Up Myths And Are Declining

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Senior Operating Officer

Huntington, WV

#1 Dec 12, 2012
Congratulations to Michigan. My fellow boardmembers and I are quite pleased with the changes taking place in this country.

We are no longer going to be bullied by Unions. Hardworking, red blooded True Americans are tired of the Union games.

The Union does not protect your retirement, your job, your stablility, nothing...They have pulled a big con on their members. Thank goodness for educated people that are finally waking up to the Union Scam.
spec metals worker

New York, NY

#2 Dec 12, 2012
I wish they'd do that here. I'm sick of paying union dues because I need that money. I don't think the union is doing much for me and my brethren down here. Really all the money they get from us I'd like to see some benefits from it. I don't see squat. I'd love to opt out of the union and keep that money under my control, not theirs.
fat man in the party van

United States

#3 Dec 12, 2012
Right to work laws hurt the middle class that is a fact... You people do not know what you are talking about.
spec metals worker

New York, NY

#4 Dec 12, 2012
fat man in the party van wrote:
Right to work laws hurt the middle class that is a fact... You people do not know what you are talking about.
To heck I dont pal. All I see is MY money going to the union every payday. I ain't getting nothing in return.
carolyn

Charleston, WV

#5 Dec 12, 2012
fat man in the party van wrote:
Right to work laws hurt the middle class that is a fact... You people do not know what you are talking about.
No sir it does not hurt the middle class. Get a clue next time you go shopping. People are starting to realize they do not need the union anymore.
Senior Operating Officer

Huntington, WV

#6 Dec 12, 2012
fat man in the party van wrote:
Right to work laws hurt the middle class that is a fact... You people do not know what you are talking about.
Please provide evidence. Study after study refutes your claim lest you provide proof.
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fat man in the party van

United States

#8 Dec 12, 2012
Ok I googled it...first thing to come up from wiki is that rtw states average 3.2 % lower wages than non rtw
fat man in the party van

United States

#9 Dec 12, 2012
How can lower wages for the middle class not be hurting it? What drives wages for the middle class up in the united state? NOTHING accept unions!

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#10 Dec 12, 2012
Is there much difference in take home pay between union members that pay dues and slightly lower wages? I'd be interested to see the analysis on that.
Senior Operating Officer

Huntington, WV

#11 Dec 12, 2012
Union dues are outrageous. You would be floored if you really knew how much the unions take from their members.

Look at it like this:

If you work a standard 40 hour week, how would you like working your first 5 hours for free? Very similar to what unions force (yes force) their member to pay.

Does that sound like a deal? If so, I have some air I would like to sell you.
streetwise

Sweden

#12 Dec 12, 2012
Union members sure are professional no doubt as proven in the video below. Listen to their limited vocabulary and senseless answers to easy questions.



Why is it that most unions members are out of shape?
Dude Watson

Cleveland, OH

#13 Dec 12, 2012
Perhaps if the unions would elect more educated people as office holders instead of loud mouth thugs they might have a bit more support. If you also look at the ones protesting it's always the fat, bearded and most inbred looking crew you could round up. Unions are about as useful today as a Zippo lighter, their time has passed long ago.

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#14 Dec 12, 2012
Senior Operating Officer wrote:
Union dues are outrageous. You would be floored if you really knew how much the unions take from their members.
Look at it like this:
If you work a standard 40 hour week, how would you like working your first 5 hours for free? Very similar to what unions force (yes force) their member to pay.
Does that sound like a deal? If so, I have some air I would like to sell you.
This is good information. I have never worked in a union myself so I am unaware of the dues. But the fella above said wages are 3% or so lower without unions. Seems to me that if dues are this high that 3% is mitigated by not paying union dues. Sure your total check will be less but if take home pay is roughly the same without dues, then no harm no foul. I have had a couple friends in unions neither of which wanted to be in one. From what I have gathered over the years it sounds like unions protect lazy worthless folks and prevent good hard workers from getting ahead. Again, I have no inside knowledge this is just my 2 cents. All I know is every time I see union based workers there are a couple people working and many more standing around doing nothing.
Dave

Garber, OK

#15 Dec 12, 2012
Think what you like, once the last union folds up, Watch what the Corporations and business, do. You people seem to think that managements a kind hearted bunch who is concerned about your best interest. When in fact all the care about is low wages and big profit. They wouldn't even be a middle class without the unions. Do you people think the unions where formed just to give management a hard time? Do you notice that in all these right to work states, they always exclude the police and firefighters, do you think that is just a coincidence. Why not make it the law for everyone, if they are going to do it?
Senior Operating Officer

Huntington, WV

#16 Dec 12, 2012
Dave wrote:
Think what you like, once the last union folds up, Watch what the Corporations and business, do. You people seem to think that managements a kind hearted bunch who is concerned about your best interest. When in fact all the care about is low wages and big profit. They wouldn't even be a middle class without the unions. Do you people think the unions where formed just to give management a hard time? Do you notice that in all these right to work states, they always exclude the police and firefighters, do you think that is just a coincidence. Why not make it the law for everyone, if they are going to do it?
Once the last unions fall (and they will), the products made here in America will be produced for far less than they are now. Will all the savings be passed onto consumers? No, not all of it, but some will thereby stimulating the economy and keeping the profits here in America.
Scary people

Las Vegas, NV

#17 Dec 12, 2012
streetwise wrote:
Union members sure are professional no doubt as proven in the video below. Listen to their limited vocabulary and senseless answers to easy questions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =4fzQmomGiQwXX
Why is it that most unions members are out of shape?
gee whiz, i do not see why those people acted like that. they do not seem peaceful at all to me. in fact, they are violent and have potty mouths. bet their mommas are proud <insert sarcasm>.
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Sam Walt

Chesapeake, VA

#20 Dec 12, 2012
Good example: One of the biggest non union Cos in America today 'Wal-Mart' Their employees are extremely happy, top wages are great, Hospital Ins great, great vacation with pay, it's just a great place to work as long as the Union stays away from them. Tehehehe
Senior Operating Officer

Huntington, WV

#21 Dec 12, 2012
Dave wrote:
Think what you like, once the last union folds up, Watch what the Corporations and business, do. You people seem to think that managements a kind hearted bunch who is concerned about your best interest. When in fact all the care about is low wages and big profit. They wouldn't even be a middle class without the unions. Do you people think the unions where formed just to give management a hard time? Do you notice that in all these right to work states, they always exclude the police and firefighters, do you think that is just a coincidence. Why not make it the law for everyone, if they are going to do it?
The numbers for private sector unions in 2010 was about 7 percent. So are you saying that 93 percent of all companies in the US are bad and hate their workers? Check your facts.
Senior Operating Officer

Huntington, WV

#22 Dec 12, 2012
Really what this country needs is more companies to perform “lock-outs”.

Shortly before a unions contract expires, the company trains non-union workers to do a union workers job. One the unions current contract expires, rather than let workers strike, companies stop letting them come to work. But business often continues with non-unionized replacement workers.

By law, management can’t permanently replace the workers it has locked out. But when a union contract expires, your boss can demand huge concessions and then lock you out without pay until you accept them.
jerk

Fenton, MI

#23 Dec 12, 2012
Senior Operating Officer wrote:
Really what this country needs is more companies to perform “lock-outs”.
Shortly before a unions contract expires, the company trains non-union workers to do a union workers job. One the unions current contract expires, rather than let workers strike, companies stop letting them come to work. But business often continues with non-unionized replacement workers.
By law, management can’t permanently replace the workers it has locked out. But when a union contract expires, your boss can demand huge concessions and then lock you out without pay until you accept them.
Nice to know there are people like you...not.

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