looking for one single praise for Oba...

looking for one single praise for Obamacare

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Dude

Chesapeake, OH

#1 Oct 28, 2013
Obamacare has been a huge disappointment as the right and most others projected. I hear horror stories from personal friends of mine how their rates doubled and other issues. However I have NOT heard one single praise for it. Please feel free to list your good or bad stories. Don't speculate. Don't post what could happen down the road or how it could be better later. Post how it has affected you or your friends now. Good or bad.
Brian S

Chesapeake, OH

#2 Oct 28, 2013
The only true cure for this healthcare crisis is to illegalize all third party profit of healthcare. Bring things back to where they were before the cancerous health insurance companies existed. There was a time when people went to the doctor or hospital,(or the doctor would make a house call) and those patients would pay their own bill. Back then it was affordable to do so. The reason health care costs so much now is because of all the health insurance companies dipping into your pocket while controlling what your doctor can and can't do to treat you. Now doctors have to hire people just to deal with all of the paperwork and red tape that has been created by these third party leeches, and that costs them money, which in turn raises their costs of service.
I absolutely refuse to purchase any sort of health insurance. It would only make some rich health insurance company CEO even richer. I would rather pay a fine, than line the wallets of some rich health insurance CEO. And I would rather DIE than pay a fine as a punishment for not purchasing Federally mandated health insurance.
It angers me so much because the solution is so simple, yet our leaders can't seem to figure it out. Eliminating the health insurance leeches means the return of affordable health care. THAT should be the "Affordable Health Care Act".

Level 5

Since: Oct 11

Chesapeake, OH

#3 Oct 29, 2013
Here's a praise for it. People are starting to see the democrats for what they are and voters everywhere will give them the boot.
hillbilly

Kenova, WV

#4 Oct 29, 2013
"Wrong,. When Obama care get's going ,'you are going too see a bunch of republicans throne out of congress. They should be ashamed of them selves.I have never saw such trashy spoil't pigs in my life. When there is a bill that covers the whole USA, they should do what is rite for all of the people .Not just for a bunch of nut's. And the republicans should be ashamed for hiding and blaming tea party for their screw up's.They are a bunch of COWARDS...
hillbilly

Kenova, WV

#5 Oct 29, 2013
I bet those contractors are republicans.That would be worth knowing?
He Lied

Charleston, WV

#6 Oct 29, 2013
Can you please explain Obama's lies hillbilly? Each Family will see a 2500.00 reduction in there premiums? How about you can keep your own doctor? If you like your health care plan, you keep your health care plan, period. Obamacare will not increase the deficit. These are just the 5 main lies. This is just going to get worse.
nunya

United States

#7 Oct 29, 2013
Dude wrote:
Obamacare has been a huge disappointment as the right and most others projected. I hear horror stories from personal friends of mine how their rates doubled and other issues. However I have NOT heard one single praise for it. Please feel free to list your good or bad stories. Don't speculate. Don't post what could happen down the road or how it could be better later. Post how it has affected you or your friends now. Good or bad.
Not sure how someone can claim their rates doubled under the ACA when they're just now being offered insurance under ACA. Care to explain? If you're referring to employer group plans increasing, well then welcome to the last 15 years of every employer group plan I've ever had. If the insurance companies wish to pin their increases on the ACA this time and you're dumb enough to believe them then that's on you. Really, who is stupid enough to believe an insurance company - someone who hasn't had much experience with them?

Level 5

Since: Oct 11

Fairfax, VA

#8 Oct 29, 2013
More people have lost their health care plans than have signed up for new plans. All of this money wasted and now America is worse off. It would have been easier and cheaper and better to just expand medicaid. Now, tons of people are losing their health care plans and new plans under the ACA costs double. .. triple what they were paying. It was a disaster from the start. Obama and his puppets on the left flat out lied to Americans. Huge failure and we all get to pay for it.

Level 5

Since: Oct 11

Fairfax, VA

#9 Oct 29, 2013
Oh wait...I guess it was Bush's fault!
LastDance

Charleston, WV

#10 Oct 29, 2013
Look for the money trail. Opposition to the Affordable Health Care Act has clear financial support. Any program of this scale will have initial problems and Americans we naturally focus of the negative. Forget those not insurable with pre-existing conditions. Forget the hundreds of thousands who will have insurance and access. Forget the raising healthcare costs being reined in. Forget corporate insurance agencies in league with pharmaceutical conglomerates in league with corporate hospital chains. Let us just focus on the negative. Let us not offer any alternative solutions and certainly let us blame Obama - the GOP Mitt Romney supporters [Massachusetts rolled out the model] certainly cannot allow that to happen. No it is not perfect and it will be honed and improved upon as we figure it out - of course we can shut down the government; that will certainly help while we make improvements and go back to yesterday when real conservaties and Americans took care of the rising medical costs and the number one threat to our economy. Blame Obama, naturally - who else?

Level 5

Since: Oct 11

Fairfax, VA

#11 Oct 29, 2013
LastDance wrote:
Look for the money trail. Opposition to the Affordable Health Care Act has clear financial support. Any program of this scale will have initial problems and Americans we naturally focus of the negative. Forget those not insurable with pre-existing conditions. Forget the hundreds of thousands who will have insurance and access. Forget the raising healthcare costs being reined in. Forget corporate insurance agencies in league with pharmaceutical conglomerates in league with corporate hospital chains. Let us just focus on the negative. Let us not offer any alternative solutions and certainly let us blame Obama - the GOP Mitt Romney supporters [Massachusetts rolled out the model] certainly cannot allow that to happen. No it is not perfect and it will be honed and improved upon as we figure it out - of course we can shut down the government; that will certainly help while we make improvements and go back to yesterday when real conservaties and Americans took care of the rising medical costs and the number one threat to our economy. Blame Obama, naturally - who else?


Will it be honed and improved like social security or like Medicare?
hillbilly

Kenova, WV

#12 Oct 29, 2013
He Lied wrote:
Can you please explain Obama's lies hillbilly? Each Family will see a 2500.00 reduction in there premiums? How about you can keep your own doctor? If you like your health care plan, you keep your health care plan, period. Obamacare will not increase the deficit. These are just the 5 main lies. This is just going to get worse.
Where have you been?the deficit has been cut in half, if your doctor don't want you that's your fault,and I thank you are getting state exchange places confused with Obama care.
Obama bin Biden

Bluefield, WV

#13 Oct 29, 2013
hillbilly wrote:
"Wrong,. When Obama care get's going ,'you are going too see a bunch of republicans throne out of congress. They should be ashamed of them selves.I have never saw such trashy spoil't pigs in my life. When there is a bill that covers the whole USA, they should do what is rite for all of the people .Not just for a bunch of nut's. And the republicans should be ashamed for hiding and blaming tea party for their screw up's.They are a bunch of COWARDS...
You snorting pills again, hillbilly?
hillbilly

Kenova, WV

#14 Oct 29, 2013
It ant even up and running,?How can you say it don t work? get real,
hillbilly

Kenova, WV

#15 Oct 29, 2013
He Lied wrote:
Can you please explain Obama's lies hillbilly? Each Family will see a 2500.00 reduction in there premiums? How about you can keep your own doctor? If you like your health care plan, you keep your health care plan, period. Obamacare will not increase the deficit. These are just the 5 main lies. This is just going to get worse.
I would like too see proof of statement on the 2500.00 deal.Can you show it?
Obama bin Biden

Bluefield, WV

#16 Oct 29, 2013
hillbilly wrote:
It ant even up and running,?How can you say it don t work? get real,
LOL. Because it is not up and running. You just answered your own question, genius. No wonder this clown won a second term in office. More proof people should have to take a test before being allowed to vote.
Obama bin Biden

Bluefield, WV

#17 Oct 29, 2013
hillbilly wrote:
<quoted text> I would like too see proof of statement on the 2500.00 deal.Can you show it?
What else would you like?

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/06/obamas-infla...
partyvan man

Huntington, WV

#18 Oct 29, 2013
I keep hearing about all these jobs lost and people losing their insurance BUT its always from a friends uncle sisters brothers dad.....has any on here lost either because of Obama care?
dude

Chesapeake, OH

#19 Oct 29, 2013
hillbilly wrote:
"Wrong,. When Obama care get's going ,'you are going too see a bunch of republicans throne out of congress. They should be ashamed of them selves.I have never saw such trashy spoil't pigs in my life. When there is a bill that covers the whole USA, they should do what is rite for all of the people .Not just for a bunch of nut's. And the republicans should be ashamed for hiding and blaming tea party for their screw up's.They are a bunch of COWARDS...
Again. Read the original post. I don't want speculation on what it might turn into. That's not reality. Democrats love to say what this might do. Want to know what it is really doing.
dude

Chesapeake, OH

#20 Oct 29, 2013
nunya wrote:
<quoted text>Not sure how someone can claim their rates doubled under the ACA when they're just now being offered insurance under ACA. Care to explain? If you're referring to employer group plans increasing, well then welcome to the last 15 years of every employer group plan I've ever had. If the insurance companies wish to pin their increases on the ACA this time and you're dumb enough to believe them then that's on you. Really, who is stupid enough to believe an insurance company - someone who hasn't had much experience with them?
My best friend got the dreaded letter from his insurance company stating his current plan's premiums will double. Went from $477/ month to $924/ month. This is the fact. Not some fairy tale about how good it will eventually be. He's happy with his current plan but because of changes made by obamacare, his insurance company is taking a hit so who do you think this gets passed to. They will lose nothing. He will along with other members. This is democratic thinking. Tax the rich. Give it to the poor. When you tax the rich it just raises rates and prices on the products and services provided by the rich in turn passing the cost down to us. How do people not see this ?

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